Do you hate pvp because you suck at it or do you suck at pvp because you hate it? if you hate it in the 1rst place then there is nothing we can do to help. But if you simply suck at it than hate it because of you sucking, you could do some pvp with guildies and ask them to help you. If you are on POT5 republic, tell me, I'll be happy to help.

Meanwhile on the DPS planet of Shadows and Assassins, people pray to get Pre 2.0 (aka 1.4) infiltration/deception build back On topic, Pretty much the same but I think its easier to punish a sorc healer mistake than it was to punish an OP healer mistake

A: Area O: Of E: Effect A cone is an area of effect. If you can direct an attack in front of you and hit multiple targets, it is ,by definition, an area of effect. Your facepalm is invalid

At first it was possible to use a medpack 100 000 000 times per fight but it was overpowered in a way. The vanilla tankassin are some of the reason it was nerfed. The vanilla tankassin were OP (I was playing one). It was so easy to get dps gear as a sin and spec tank (or any tankiss hybrid) and beat ANYONE in a 1v2 1v3 or even 1v4. The vanilla tankassin had a very good dmg mitigation AND self healing. Add an infinite medpack pool (with a moderate CD) and delaying a node cap was incredibly long. I remember THIS civil war where 2 tankassin in dps gear (some dude and I) delayed a side node for like 7-8 min against 5 opponent only by trading our guard and spamming self healing+ medpacks. They eventualy gave up and we got the node. Is it frustrating to be able to use a medpack only once per fight? Yes You can use a grenade on CD but you cant use a medpack on CD. It annoying but when the medpack nerf happened, it was ''needed'' When they nerfed tankassin, the medpack nerf should have gone BUT right now the healing is so powerfull that the medpack nerf is right in place again.

The reason I rolled Imp first was because of my Aion experience. I played Asmodian in Aion (the super incredibly doodly doopy underdog faction) and it was soooo painful to try to keep the head out of the water. In Aion the faction balance mean something while in SWTOR it mean absolutly nothing. The leaderboard is nothing special. there is no open world objective (Ilum objectives where not relevant at all, the impact was very very small if you compare to a Fortress dominance in Aion). I rolled Imp to avoid the problems I got in Aion. In Aion you can farm pvp gear by pveing. The open world objectives were about dungeons that allowed you to farm pvp gear. Most populated faction in Aion= win when the game is young= farm pvp gear faster= have ''stronger'' players= win when the forces are even= more players roll on this faction= MOAR DOMINANCE!!!. You got the idea. I was a bit scared by ther possibility of having the same issues in SWTOR so I rolled imp to find out that it was not challenging at all so I rerolled Pub.

I forgot about this talent in the concealment tree. Tear dropper: All you CC abilities have a 1%/2%/3% chance to make your oppenent QQ and 0.5%/1%/1.5% chance to make your opponent unsub.

Mix Star wars, GTA and Assassin's creed. What an amazing game it would be. Imagine: A scoundrel is fighting the police (aka imperial or republic troopers). He is overwhelmed and run away. Oh no! troopers everywhere!!! Climb on the nearest building, jump on one of those flying speeders and reach the spaceport, Get in your ship and lightspeed to another planet !

Thx for the compliment. The players im reffering are Yoshi and Devil. And maybe 1 or 2 more

Here is some pics. Full WP augments. http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/Philelectric/media/Screenshot_2013-11-25_22_54_25_936262_zps99a86e15.jpg.html http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/Philelectric/media/Screenshot_2013-11-25_22_45_49_327714_zps21680ab2.jpg.html http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/Philelectric/media/Screenshot_2013-11-25_18_57_43_458853_zpsd375528a.jpg.html http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/Philelectric/media/Screenshot_2013-11-18_21_06_51_764984_zps42e1d78d.jpg.html?state=replace if you notice, there is several top or high ranked players in the ennemy teams.

You want to talk about spike dmg? Go to the class forum (shadow or assassin, i cant remember) search for a post talking about spike dmg sin tank get. The highest i saw was around 30k or 35k dmg in PvE. Of course, its pve, but tankassin is the only tank that get those spikes so I think the small spike dmg a vanguard tank receive is nothing. Yes we can survive for 5 sec with a specced shroud. At least we survived long enough to throw 4 skills. (we cant really Cloak since we guard someone. Edit: Yes, 2.5= a buff for assassins. More armor to receive less damage because people are focusing the tank first right? 2.5= less self healing= less hp to take the guard damage=more dependent on the healer= getting healed more while the dps are dying because they receive less heals. Overall 2.5 seems a good buff PvE wis. But I think It wont be that good in PvP

thats false. By using WP augments you increase your crit at the same time and it allows you to drop a crit mod to get a power mod while lowering the damage boost by almost nothing. Since you have a class buff that boost your mainstat, the ''damage lost'' is back on the track and slighly higher.

Yeah, I know, CCing shroud is sooooooooooooooo hard, thats why people QQ about the squishiest tank. Edit: its also super incredibly hard to NOT use tech/force attacks on shroud.

WUT DA DOODLY TRUCKING PUK is this?

Yeah, its unfair! Why would you heal by 1.7k each hit? I mean really 6.8k total is sooooooo unfair when an assassin tank can heal for 6k if he have 40k total hp. Edit: Oh! and this 6k healing for assassins is once every 120 sec aka 2 min>1 and a half min

Hi pve player, how are you

Evoxile is right, almost everything the OP said is wrong. No AoEs in infiltration? We might be a SINGLE target BURST dps who knows. No AoEs in balance? What about force in balance? No AoEs in kinetic? We might be a tank who needs to RECEIVE damage who knows. I arenas, I am often TOP or 2nd damage. Unless there is a tank, I'm also very close to top if not top in the protection stat. I can also use force potency--> Force breach on a target---> tab target the casting healer and low slash, go back to the target my team is focusing--> project and then use the EXTRA burst I got from low slashing the healer. I'm not lossing any burst potential and I am even increasing the burst potencial. We are one of the lowest if not the lowest substained dps class,indeed. But we can control our burst and its even better then having a great substained dps in arenas. By controling the burst, we can avoid the ennemy defensive CDs. For exemple, A carnage mara as gore up. He NEEDS to burst during that phase. An infiltration shadow can use low slash when he wants and can use force potency when he wants to control the burst. Phase walk might not be a very good ability,but we can use it to control the arenas. Orbital station, your team decide to fight on the catwalk. You put phase walk up there. Knockdown a key target, 1v1 him on the ground and possibly kill him then you phase walk up to get back in the main battle. Its now 4v3. If the guy you knockdown get support, CC them or not, its your choice. But you should phase walk up and fight in a 4v2 for several seconds. Now, lets say one of your teammate is knocked down, you can jump down to support. If its 2v2 and you win, gg you phase back to the top to insta 3v2 till the other guy arrive to 4v2 and win. If you loose the 2v2 on the ground, phase walk up so its 3v2 for several seconds and maybe kill 1 to equalize the field. Tattoine. There is several locations where you can put phase walk to avoid any burst without going to far from the fight. I wont tell the locations because its easy to figure them. Corelia.Ditto Tattoine plus the possibility to port back to the elevated ground to push/kill the ennemy ranged dps casting from above. On the leveling side, in my green leveling gear, I was alway one shotting 80% of the trash mobs. Leveling as infiltration is a one shot fest. I cant talk about operations since im not doing them. (sorry for my bad english)

I understand that an assassin/shadow should not be able to win 1v4 with this cheesy strategy but stop asking for a stealth nerf. If they nerf stealth they should also nerf guard, nerf the range of every ranged ACs because fighting in a small area like arenas create a cloud of dust that reduce the visibility. Warriors/ Knight should not be able to leap without getting knocked down at the end of the leap since the ground should be slippy. A merc/pt using a flamme ability should create a huge explosion that kill every1 after a while because the air should be filled with gaz. You want the cheese to change? Stop asking for retarded solutions. I can say stupid thing aswell when a class win a match because of an ''unfair'' advantage. I merc can win a round 1v2 if the 2 ennemies are 30 meters away. I saw it happening ONCE so nerf merc plox. When we fight on the catwalk on orbital station, a jugg tank can leap back to the team to guard while the assassin cant. I saw it many times. Nerf leap plox A sorc can activate bubble to survive a burst,then heal back when the ennemy is not paying attention.I see it everytime there is a sorc/sage. Nerf sorc plox. If they nerf stealth to ''solve'' the acid exploit, they should introduce the retarded nerfs I propose aswell. The best idea so far (imo) is getting more damage from the acid when you are far from the middle. Or a massive stealth scan in the whole map once half the map is flodded with acid.

legend says: You can be CCed irl if you play SWTOR and post a qq thread about your badness in the game exposed with a: too much CC boohoo :'( when my cc breaker is on CD is dive in the middle of 8 ennemies as a sage/sorc then i cry about being cced to death.

I hate huttball since release. I played on the imp side at release, if anyone knows what it means (perma huttball since it used to be the only same faction vs same faction WZ) I'm still here and I still like the game. Go away with your huttball and we might leave you alone with our arena

I wish i was a smashrauder solo quing with my guildmates during prime time so i fight almost the ennemy faction only so there is small chances to fight my guildmate and it increase to chances to have them on my team.

the funnies for me is when a sniper or a rage/focus specced player call me female organ playing an OP class. I'm like...yeah sure... Some1 even challenged my to a 1v1. This guy asked for a 1M bet, i said i dont even have half of this (i had 101k) he said no, then i taunted him by saying he was scared since I accepted the challenge. We met eachothers at the old pub base on Ilum west shard... ''DRUMLINE!!''

here is my bet: this guy have a spec that looks like 12/31/3, he is using surging charge, activate recklessness, switch to dark charge. By doing it, he have 3 stacks of surging charge so the surging charge discharge is ''saved'' (maybe a possible surging charge damage proc aswell) then he use discharge on you while he is in dark charge. It creates a glitch, he throw a dark charge discharge AND a surging charge discharge at the same time.

if you think tank assassin were op after patch +/- 1,3 you are simply bad

1rst.- matchmaking is very good, I've always been in a team made with the same roles the other team got. 4 dps vs 4 dps/3 dps 1 heal vs 3 dps 1 heal/ 1 tank 2 dps 1 heal vs 1 tank 2 dps 1 heal. ALWAYS And guess what? Its like that for everyone or almost everyone I met in arenas (I asked a lot of them). 2nd - the queu pop is fine. Never waited more than 1 min (Sometimes i play around 9-10 am, sometimes around 6-7 pm sometimes I play around 10 pm to midnight. 3rd - I've been in a team with several ACs/spec and as long my team have at least half a brain overall, the fight is pretty fair no matter what the other team got If its not like me when you Q for arenas, plz tell me what is the PVE server you are on. I'm sick of cry babies ************ bioware or a feature in the game because they are bad/ dont know their AC or other ACs and think they are awesome. Every cry baby on the forum said something like: I'm not the best but I'm good or I'm good at pvp or I dominate but its not balanced but I play the weakest AC... shut the BIP up plz... if you complain about something you are good at...you might not be that good.

Oh! Oh! lets me post my screenshot of 17 medals in an arena match as a shadow!!! I want to be famous!!! Oh wait, I'm pretty sure it isnt special since any tankable class can do it with any tank/dps hybrid build. Why would you post this average hps? I solo queu'd many times and happened to be with THIS sage doing a similar hps many times.