I don't know, to me the SI being completely dark side just seemed appropriate, not because of the fact that he was a Sith, but the fact that he came from slavery where he was nothing and his only path to power to never be taken advantage of again was based in utter ruthlessness and imposing his power to dominate the weak. I think in one of the Darth Bane books he said it best and really put the whole Sith philosophy into focus "Those who ask for mercy don't deserve it" Basically my SI was willing to kill and deceive and destroy to ensure that his chains of slavery were broken. He didn't necessarily love the empire, the dark choices to me were rooted in self, and his desire to gain revenge. He was betrayed by two separate masters. His war wasn't with the empire it was with individuals. On top of that the SI would have craved the power that those people had and the only way to get it was to kill them and supplant them. That's why he dealt with Zash when she reached the end of her usefullness and became a threat.

I've become a bit of a scenery junkie in this game so it reflects here Favorite planets Korriban - Beautiful planet . because it is literally the heart of evil . But the first time you stand on the Sith Temple stars and look up and see huge Imperial starships floating in the atmosphere. The thrill of walking through ancient tombs. Its a planet that makes sense. Fills you with a bit of awe and makes you want more. Alderaan - Probably the most gorgeous world in the game with a medieval feel. standing on some of the bridges and just staring across the landscape is breathtaking and speaks to the fact that these planets really need a high observation point that you can explore. Worst Planets Coruscant - I do get what they are trying to do, but Palpatine called this planet the gem of the galaxy, but really it was pretty much a repeat of Nar Shadda in a lot of ways with a lot of dark gloomy underworld areas. It just wasn't varied enough for me. Tatooine - I khow this planet on the rim is probably the most significant planet in a GFFA, but it is a desert and there just isn't much to see. It literally slows down the pace of the game. They even make sure that you know the pace is slow with the ludicrous 30 minute ride to get a datacron.. I would love to see the ability to enter a pod race in the future to make money, I would like to find Toshi' station and buy me some power converters. This should be that cool planet with lots of hidden things from the Star Wars and EU universe to find.

So far since I got the game when it first came out I've finished 5 of the stories and I'm working on the 6th Imperial Intelligence. In order Sith Warrior - This is what it felt like to be a Sith. I manipulated people, I corrupted a jedi and bought her to the dark side. I gained strength and power and eventually over threw my master. Everything that a good Sith should be. He came across as a mix of Palpatine and Vader. There was also nothing better then wading into a mob in full light saber mode. I will admit this was the hardest one to play because I didn't understand armoring or light and dark side choices so he was a little random. The ending with the strut was really quite cool. Bounty Hunter - "I'm just a man trying to make his way in the universe" Jango Fetts words described the Bounty Hunter to a T. I actually really enjoyed this story. I had a better understanding of armor and light/darkside choices. But my Hunter ended up being fairly neutral as I let people live that weren't real bounties and spared the ones that I thought needed to come back alive. The first chapter was ok, but established a lot of things. From then on the game was a bit of a rocket ride to me. It featured political intrigue, revenge and a feeling that you had to chase the money. It also had an ending that could possibly decide the fate of the Galaxy. I guess it helped that you eventually became this heavily armored tank with tons of cool weapons. Smuggler - The story line was really just ok, but the character was unbelievably awesome. A wise cracking rogue with a rag tag crew in a batter freighter going from world to world spreading your own form of chaos, all while bedding down with anything you could get your hands on. Probably the funniest character that I ever ran into. The story wasn't bad. I ended up more light side then anything which gave it the Han Solo feel. The underlying storyline of corruption and again betrayal, but the main villain was a bit flat to me. The end game choice to me was awesome, I might have to play through it again some day just to make the other choice. Sith Inquisitor - I didn't hate this story, I hated the middle ghost buster concept. However I think that the Sith Inquisitor makes you understand the Sith more then the Warrior does. You start as a vulnerable slave and your basically a pawn through the first part of the game, First with your master then with a powerful member of the dark power. This whole story is about gaining strength so that you control your destiny, then gaining power so you can control the galaxy and reach your potential. The end fight was pretty good, and what made it great was the dark side powers that you accumulate. Come on most of you were making electrical noises when you were throwing lightning around, admit it. I just don't see how you could make this character light, mine was as dark and corrupted as midnight. I didn't want to reform the empire. I want to run it as I see fit. Trooper - The idea of being a heavily armed special ops soldier was appealing to me given my former military background. I didn't really get the satisfaction out of it. The story was a bit flat and the Trooper himself was a bit cheesy. The opening story was great, but after that was dealt with the uber villain might as well have grown a twirly mustache and tied a girl to a rocket tram track on Correllia. I understand what they were trying to accomplish, I don't think they quite got there with this one and the whole thing was just grindy for me. Imperial Agent - Don't jump on me for this, the only reason why its here is because I'm only on Drummond Kas. So far though its quite awesome. I love having to think infiltration, I loved that I had to lose the British accent on Hutta and sink into the underworld. I've now drawn the attention of Lord Jadus who is quite cool. The idea of rooting out corruption in the Empire is appealing. having a steal field and sneaking around for a quick head shot or knife in the back just goes with the story so well. So far most of my choices have been dark side due to my desire to clean up loose ends and leave no witnesses. My rare light side choices are due to gaining a resource for the Empire. The voice acting is decent. I can't wait to get a ship and go fight the Emperors enemies where they hide.

There is nothing better then shooting someone who is weakened in the back of the head with a shotgun to finish them off. Or finding a weakened opponent and giving then a dirty kick and then blashing their head off. these are a few of my favorite things.

When proposing to Risha who was contemplating marriage to another Smuggler - "Sure, he's rich, powerful, handsome and educated. But I'm me" Risha - "You make a compelling argument"

Darth Marr is an unusual Sith to say the least. The whole concept of the Dark Side and the Sith is that it values personal power over everything else and revenge is a virtue to the dark side. Each individual Sith's goal is based around domination and to gain understanding through the acquisition of power. If you don't see yourself subjugating your rivals who are weaker then you then you are never going to live up to your potential. If you don't see yourself craving the power of the Emperor then you will eventually fall to someone who does and will climb over you to get there. The Empire, the soldiers of the empire and the citizens of the Empire are just a tool to a Sith to not only gain control of the galaxy, but get that final revenge on the Jedi. All of the Sith walking around goveling to the Emperor are either weak (big problem in TOR empire) or lying and biding their time until they can gather their resources and over throw the Empire. Remember Darth Vader really only obeyed the Empeor until he could over throw him and take his place. But the ships, soldiers, the citizens of the Empire really meant nothing to him unless they could help him achieve his goal. Darth Marr was a powerful Sith, but he had a powerful weakness, he cared about the success of serving the Empire.

I don't understand the idea that its bad to pile on someone in PVP arenas because the levels of players are equalized. On a normal world where I see 5 completely armored up level 55 players on planets like Tatooine jumping level 20 players, waiting for them to revive to keep killing him, that I have an issue with. But in Arenas, kill or be kill. If I see some getting jumped I'm throwing in on that.

I can't remember which book it was that Vader was brooding about the suit, oh wait it was Death Star, which wasn't terrific. But he thought about enhancing the suit. But the mere act of extracting him from the suit would kill him. So even pulling him out of the suit to do organ transplants would have probably been fatal. He was enslaved by Palpatine, enslaved by the suit and enslaved by the Force. On top of that, he just didn't care about the suit anymore, Palpatine in Dark Lord used the Yoda line that they were not basically held back by this crude matter, so the suit eventually wouldn't matter to Anakin as he mastered the force.

Is it possible to run through this solo to get him? At any level.

How do you figure this. this was pre discovery that Palpatine was a Sith, or that the sith had any influence over the office of the Supreme Chancellor. And its not up to the Jedi to decide that Palpatine has to give up emergency power, its up to the senate. You know the elected members of the government. In fact leading up to this the Senate had granted Palpatine emergency powers, and an unlimited extention on his term. Its hard not to argue that the Jedi only value democracy as long as it serves their means, and that the Jedi are in effect every bit as power hungry and ruthless as the Sith, they just have a better PR department. A Sith will break into your house and break your puppies neck if it serves them. A Jedi will break into your house, play with your puppy for a while and befriend its owner and then snap the puppies neck and declare it a danger to the galaxy at large. But gosh he was such a nice guy in saving us from the threat of the puppy. You could argue that the Sith are all about the acquisition and protection of power and they do it in the most direct and efficient way possible. The Jedi are about the acquisition and protection of power and esteem and they do it in the most efficient and at times brutal way possible, but they justify it very well. The Jedi and the Sith have to be constantly locked in a battle to the death for all eternity.

I wouldn't define the Jedi as anywhere near purely good,they are just as capable of acts of supreme evil as Sith, they just lie themselves and believe that its for the betterment of the galaxy. The Jedi chased the original exiles out of their order because its either the orders philosophy or nothing, they knew that the Jedi that they exiled were as good as dead, they basically condemned them for heresy. Those ancient Jedi went on to find the Sith. Absolutely the Sith could be called evil for coming back and waging war, but the Jedi created that need for revenge and anger in the Sith. Then after the war, the Jedi were ok with and actively participated in the attempted genocide of the Sith empire, that genocide would have included woman and children on Korriban. Their justification, "Oh the Sith are evil, we need to exterminate them". The Republic and the Jedi had a lot of blood on their hands in that war. We've seen Jedi evil in the game. We saw the extent that the Jedi went to before they even knew that Palpatine was a Sith. "Lets take over the Senate,screw democracy" I would plainly state that the Jedi are far more evil because they hide their evil behind this whole disguise of humbleness and servitude to the force. The Sith are out front with their anger and need for revenge that was cultivated by the Republic. They lost two wars against the Republic and realized that they had to be ruthless and strong and militant.

I know its EU, but even in the revenge of the Sith novel, Anakin talked about the forbidden archives where the Jedi had captured Sith Holocrons, Palpatine also mused about it in Dark Lord after he sent Vader to the Jedi Temple to capture them, some of which were clever forgeries, but the rule of two could have been there. The Jedi vs Sith Source book was suppossed to have been written by a Jedi Archivist, she certainly knew about the rule of two. Yoda had access to all knowledge at the temple.

Kind of, he also stated that the power of the dark side should be focused on as few force users as possible, so it wasn't much of a leap for Bane to his Banite philosophy

Reven came up with the rule of two after he left the Sith Empire, it was never conceived of during his time with the Emperor. It would be logical to think that after he saw all of the backstabbing and such on Drummond Kas that he came up with and implemented the rule of two. But that knowledge died when he was captured and redeemed and we saw the group of three and the brotherhood of darkness and a bunch of other newly crowned Darth's gathering followers around them. Only once Bane found and embraced Reven's holocron did the rule of two get implemented and you could argue that it had the best results.

Started a smuggler, that will be next, then I'll play through the two jedi's and finish off with the Intelligence agent. To be honest the Smuggler story might right itself and be slightly x-rated.

Darth Baras ate all of the cookies. Of course I'm depressed.

Thanks, don't know if its a coincidence or not, I usually use the same user name in longer form on other forums around the web

How about an option that once they fall in love with you and marry that you can chuck your companion out the airlock?

Anyways, so like a good slave, I grab my fresher cleaning kit and run over to see Darth Thanaton, because hello Darth. Anyways he says, Not bad for a former Slave, now here's a test go to the end of the hall there's a cleanup needed in Aisle three. Nope don't see anything un-towards there, so,well off I go and the bastard brings down the roof on me. I wake up feeling moldy Venkman breath on my face and I'm told that yet another Master has totally betrayed me. That's it, I'm done kowtowing to the man. Meanwhile he calls me up and says that now one with the permanent smell of fresher cleaner is going to be a Sith Lord in his Empire,no sir. so I snap, Morgan Freeman calmly tells me to go start collecting ghosts so that I can get me some more of that "Power Unlimited Power". So off I go leaving a trail of bodies, sparkly clean freshers and captured ghosts in my wake. I also gather another buddy, a slightly confused dingbat former Jedi teenager who is now constantly running up the ships cellphone bill with her insipid moping about the state of the Empire and wondering if Justin Bieber is going on tour this summer. I promptly named her "Stupid" and assigned her to bathroom scrubbing duty. I then put Venkman/Zash on a pure Taco Bell diet. Being evil is good. Meanwhile I'm totally kicking butt and taking names, slurpin up ghosts until my internal Ecto-containment grid is filled to bursting and I've left a trail of dead republicans so long and wide that Charles Manson is sending me texts proclaiming me "Da Man" Yup I'm now a Sith Lord with a ton of power and an itchin for revenge, so I go after my former master old Backstabber himself. I totally confront him and my head promptly explodes (Scanners yo). He laughs at me and throws a fresher bush at my writhing form and saunters out of the room proclaiming that a Slave will never have "power unlimited power" So my compatriots stuff my brains back into my head and tell me that I'm mentally ill. No kidding d'uh not only am I hearing Morgan Freeman's voice in my head, but Jack Nicolson, Gary Busey, Hayden Christenson and the Soup Nazi's voice all join in as well as Michelle Pfiefer, but then again that one might be normal, I'll be in my bunk. Anyways I throw another double sized taco at Venkman/Vash and she says that I'm sick because I can't control the voices in my head and I need to find a cure. She then excuses herself and Stupid starts to cry. So off I go at the behest of Venkman/Zash to gather artifacts because seriously what can go wrong, I can totally trust him/her/it. I slowly gather these artifacts while at the same time doing some more of that sweet sweet killing. Meanwhile I've got another buddy, some nerd that I'll name I don't know, Batman, because all this guy does is whine seriously. "Oh yeah we won" Every single time,he's kinda a Buzz Killington, wait scratch the Batman name I dub thee Buzz. Anyways I gather these artifacts and totally clear my head after going to a pink floyd concert and killing all of the people there, at least I think its a Pink Floyd concert. Or a really vivid dream thanks to better living through chemistry. Then I get a phone call from a Moff, who the hell in HR comes up with these titles? I mean seriously when I'm in charge I'm getting rid of that title. He says, you have "Power Unlimited Power" But I have the freakin biggest gun in the galaxy, at least for now, then he chortles and pets his fluffy kitty. He then tells me that if we can be buddies he'll let me fire his big gun and blow up a fleet. So I do and he tells me that he loves me in a totally manly bro way. BTW this empire stuff is weird, first hes telling me that I can pull the trigger on his gun, and my pirate buddy Egon is offering me back massages. But back to focus. In a flash of inspiration Venkman/Zash comes back from the bathroom after a 3 day layover and says dude you need a proper Apprentice. I'm wondering whats wrong with Stupid as an Apprentice as she excuses herself grabs her Jedi Light brush and heads down the hall towards the refresher. Fine, I go back to Korriban and stare down the overseer and tell him that I need to use the can. After throwing a roll of paper down the fresher and flushing I go back and laugh in his face and tell him that I want an apprentice. He brings some dudes out, I really like the dude with the mask, I shall call him Bones. So now I have a full ship, yup, I've got Venkman/Zash, Egon, Stupid, Buzz and Bones, and only one Fresher, is is it me or do we need to buy flystrips. Anyhow Thanaton calls me and says, we need to settle this like men, and I'm like totally, but boy do I have a surprise for him because now I truly I have "Power Unlimited Power" and control it. So I'm like a mano a mano is great, but he says "No way" I challenging you to a LARPing tournament on Corellia. Whatever. I get to Corellia and for starters I totally route the republic, I've got the ghost of Xenu tellilng me that I am truly the man and I go off to confront Thanaton. He totally wants to debate me to death while sending his bodies to kill me. Whatever I've got ghosts. So I totally slaughter his buddies and he declares that he's too good for me and saunters off at a run. So all I can do is follow him to the Capital. I validate my parking and take Buzz with me for the final confrontation. I show up just as he's whining to the Dark Council about what a meany I am, and how they should totally all kill me.. I walk into the council chamber and ask them where the Fresher is. I then leave them a surprise for later heh heh heh. I go back and have a total drag em out brawl with Thanaton and then kick him in a sensitive area for good measure. As he's crawling away clutching his inflamed family jewels one of the Dark Councillers totally twists his head off with the force. I need to learn that trick I think as visions of Stupid dance through my head. Anyways Thanaton is dead and the other Councillers are like "Dude" you totally have to join our club and we just happen to have a spot. Here's the keys to the executive Fresher you are now and forever known as Darth Knox. What a stupid name, I had my heart set on something cool like Darth Vader, or Darth Sideous or hell Darth Black Bunny. anyways, I'm now a Darth a counciller, I have unlimited power, bad skin and purple glowy eyes. I also have a really high cellphone bill thanks to Stupid and I'm going to spend all eternity with a pirate asking me if I want a massage while Buzz bores me to death and Venkman keeps wreckin the can. Life is good.

I can officially change the title of this thread to after 4 stories now, as I completed the Sith Inquisitor story line last night, and what a weird, strange and wonderful ride it was. I mean talk about spanning the whole experience of being licensed to be a jerk. I mean I get it, I should be excited about being chosen for Sith training right, going from slave to Sith, this boy is getting his respect dammit. But no I get off of the shuttle and in between quests I'm basically scrubbing the overseer's toilet, opps sorry Star Wars term is fresher. Lighting his Alderaanian cigars with Sith Lightning and fetching the mail. Meanwhile I'm walking around in a leisure suit with a fricken stick for a weapon while teachers pet gets the cool kid robes, sits at the back of the classroom chuckling about slave boy, mainly me and gets A's for doing nothing. Anger boils over, but I'm bidding my time happily taking on stupid slavish fetch this stuff missions over and over again. I was promised "Power.....Unlimited Power" when I was recruited from the pigath farms on Persius Omicron 2, instead I can barely light a cigar with my lightning and I'm being laughed at by every jerk at the academy and my fingers have gone all wrinkly from scrubbing freshers. But I bid my time and eventually get noticed by a Dark Lord named Zash. Everytime I see her I'm wishing for a jazzy set of robes and thinking about Huttball a lot. Anyways, the overseer continues to beat me down, and favor the jerkface in the robes until one day Zash catches him cheating cooks him, yells at the Overseer and claims me as her apprentices. I promptly excuse myself to my bunk, then I go meet her in the capital. The minute I get there she kindly tells me about how powerful I am, and assigns me to get to work, first to find a ancient Sith monster to pal around with and then to kill her rival. But first she wrinkles her nose and hints that a certain fresher needs a scrubbin. Sure enough I find this Deshaube or whatever he is and I name him Venkman. .. Peter for short, and we go and club that Sith Lord to death hoping that nobody notices that my leisure suit isn't covered in Sith bits. Of course my master is pleased, she promptly assigns my companion to scrub the fresher while I pick up my shiny new ship, of course on inspection that fresher is filthy so I apply my dark side powers to clean it up. Eventually my new master (Hutball. . . hutball) sends me out to find some artifacts so that she can make me and her even more powerful. I've even noticed my power is growing, I can now use my Sith Lightning to kill the scum under my fridge. So anyways, I fly all over the place looking for these artifacts while all the while killing Republic scum. Yup us former slaves are a no mercy bunch. "Please mr Sith, please spare my men, spare me blah blah blah" Yes sir I good shot of "Power Unlimited Power" takes care of that. Hey hows this "My name is Ash, I'm a slave and this is my Broom Stick" Meanwhile I'm taking over a cult by preaching that good good religion and suckering the rubes into donating all of their cash to the church of the rock. I eventually get another buddy to hang around with, though I'm really unhappy because the guy just leaves a total mess in the Fresher, and I'm learning that Venkman really can't be allowed to eat Taco Bell anymore. Mean while I'm namin new guy Egon. Eventually I grab everything and Zash is telling me to hurry back so she can make me even more powerful by assembling a Lemarchand box (hellraiser yo). We get back to the seat of Imperial power and I'm talkin to a long dead relative who's telling me "You watch out for that woman now, she's nothing but trouble" strangely that whole thing came out in a Morgan Freeman voice which makes it epic. anyways I meet her in the ruins and for some reason she's constantly got a light shining behind her head so I can't see her face, but that's ok because after this a quick trip to my bunk and then "Power Unlimited Power" Anyways she starts ranting like a crazy woman, Morgan Freeman's voice is yelling in my head "I told you so Cracker" and she turns around and I realize that I'm never going to have to think about Hutt ball again. She's ugly man, she exclaims "You used to think I was beautiful" I reply "Yeah but then you fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down" She as all woman do loses her nut and tells my that she wants my body which would have been great about a week ago, but now she wants it in a platonic metaphysical sense as in she wants to drive. Of course Venkman won't have that and takes the bullet and Queen Ugly is now trapped in his body and he's asking me about the rules to Huttball. I'm safe Venkman's nuts, Egon is stuck in the cockpit of my ship and things are about to get ... . Awesome. That's right, a Dark Council Member named Dark Thanaton calls me and says "You dude are awesome, and I want to do a training montage with you so get your "Unlimited Power" butt over here so I can train you. So off I go To be continued.

As an add on. the companion on the republic side Jar Jar Binks who thaws you out and promptly swears a life debt to you. Thefinal planet is Alderaan, you land,, jump out of your ship and stop to admire the scenery. You look up just in time to see the Death Star opening fire. The expansion ends as your character mumbles "I have a bad feeling about this" On the empire side, your companion is a 10 year old Anakin Skywalker. On a space mission he yells out "Now this is pod racing" Your dark side choice is to shove him out of the airlock. your light side choice is to shove him out of the airlock. The universe rejoices as you take Palpatine's offer of an apprenticeship and the end game mission involves delivering bunnies to orphans as a golden age of the first galactic empire rises.

Glowing sparkling boxes are definitely datacrons

too bad you can't kill her. If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed. Once she's finished being useful, she's a threat. Shoot her full of Force Lightning and move on.

I've been playing the game since it came out, and I'm not the biggest warzone or PVP player out there and I still love this game. Its also my first MMO so I guess I came in with no expectations. I've played up a Sith Warrior, Bounty Hunter, Trooper to level 50 and my new guy, a completely evil Inquisitor is at 46 (Probably get him through to the end of his story quest before I take on the new content). So I couldn't care less about the armor treadmill, I do like the idea of one Planetary Commendation for buying armor and enhancements. Its not like I'm playing every night so I don't have the burn out factor yet. I'm still looking forward to rolling other characters. For the $15 dollars a month, I felt that I've been more then rewarded in terms of value. I have the option of pushing into PVP, finding a guild or just plain exploring this massive galaxy. There's nothing yet that makes me throw up my hands in despair and zerg rush this forum with the whole I quit thing. Personally I think its cooler if people just vanish from the forum instead of stamping their feet, it gives them a sense of cool mystery.

I hid a doughnut in his coat and then let Darth Baras burn him down.