I posted this thread in hopes that we could change the world... Finally sanity has prevailed and Vanguards/Powertechs have been nerfed where they belong.... Thank you for your hard work and commitment to change... Together we achieved this

Yeah brilliant... all the other classes are played by inferior players... You can't actually believe that...

Classes that are this easy to play and require very little skill shouldn't have this level of power... It's just that simple... If you deny the obvious then you are part of the problem.

Good Point sir... I just think the class needs some serious attention before the solo ranked community gets up and running... We can't leave the Vanguards stupidly overpowered and broken

I agree I just think that the return on investment is too easy for a class that is so easily played... It should be hard to do the damage a vanguard does... and it simply is not...

Vanguards in 3.0 and 4.0 are just simply overpowered... This is a petition to put necessary nerfs into place to put this class where it belongs ... for the health of the game... sign below if you agree and lets make this game the best it can be!

Don't let these trolls fool you they are nothing but haters.... All of these children are just pathetic compared to my might

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I've been using the pvp conqueror power relic in conjunction with the Matrix cube(fully augged) and find that it gives me about a static hundred extra strength. Isn't this better then using the vendor pve relic? Or am I just a noob?

I'm not so optimistic. The devs would have to go in and redesign every zone to have a new class instance and new cut scenes for every new story arc. Your talking about a lot of time spent developing that. Developing new animations when you have a development team that is prepping for the launch of a new mmo is a lot different then having a game that you are trying to sustain. This bioware team probably has half the developers that they had at launch, so again it is a huge hurtle for them to develop a new class with all new animations. The math you use here is touchy. You quote a potential figure of 2.25 million to make this happen. The problem is that I don't know if that adds up. How much money does bioware pay its employees? I'm guessing average salary is 80-100k per year. So if they have a development team that is 200 people which I think is a good estimate then the numbers get a little less simple then what you have laid out. Let's not forget the competition which is Wildstar and Teso coming out this year. You might not want to invest that much capital into an mmo that will be two years old by that point when the competition is that strong. This all being said, I think your idea is brilliant and bioware should do it tomorrow because I would want to play that class, But the video games business is an industry and it all comes down to money.

I really like the idea. I like how you destroy your detractors too. It's easy and necessary to shoot down someone else's idea when the best you can come up with is some half baked, weak sauce droid idea. My question is in regards to actual financial viability. Right now the game supposedly has about 450,000-500,000 subs and the dev team has to push out a new raid every 3-4 months, new flashpoints, new pvp content, fix bugs, rebalance classes constantly, and they are supposedly developing a space project as well. I know you said that you would charge 10 bucks because it would be new digital expansion content, but do you really think that it will pay for all the voice actors, redesign of zones, and just sheer bulk of new content that will have to be added. And even if it did... I don't think bioware would do it. EA wouldn't let them. To big a risk. Hope I'm wrong and they implement your idea though, because it would be awesome

I basically agree, From my tanking with it in heroic FP's my threat basically sux. Its hard to keep mobs and even the boss on you. I can't imagine doing an operation with a hybrid spec, but maybe its viable.

Agreed

I've been tanking a hybrid spec in the 55 hm flash points... it works pretty good... as far as damage and survival is concerned... my stats are basically the same minus some shield percentage... burns are good damage though here's the link http://www.swtor-spy.com/skill-tree-calculator/guardian/17/?build=021220120212120200000000000000000321302210020031112200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000&ver=20

Let me just say that I haven't played GW2 yet, but it looks promising and I'll give it a try. I consider myself a casual pvp'er and I like to do it in swtor because it's fun, however it is a massive grind if you want to be competitive. Alot of people dont have or wanna put in the time it takes to be competitive, and get turned off when they are getting blown up in pvp because they are undergeared.