I have tried to create a rough showdown between the 3 big MMO's so here we go! The numbers to the left of the categories are the maximum score I can give for that category decided by how important it is.(obviously the GW2 scores are estimates.) 10Group gameplay: WoW10 > GW28 > TOR6 In this one WoW has a maxed score with GW2 following closely and TOR close behind that. I'm really not sure about the GW2 score I am not sure how the removal of the trinity will shape up. But until it's released theirs nothing to do but watch with trepidation. 8PVP gameplay: GW28 > WoW7 > TOR5 I put GW2 ahead of WoW because it's more dynamic. TOR's lower score is attributed to control an issue we will get to later. 6Solo gameplay: GW26 > TOR5 > WoW2 With a bit more variety TOR might have scored higher. GW2's "Dynamic events" get the cookie here. 6Story: TOR6 > WoW5.5 > GW24.5 I love WoW's lore but I gave the advantage to TOR for better quest story. 15System: WoW15 = GW215 > TOR6 This category is an amalgamation of mainly UI and Control. (NOTE: Control not Controls!) This is what makes or breaks the game TOR doesn't have the smooth controls of the others so it loses here. 6Visuals: GW26 > WoW3.5 > TOR3 This one is a combination of technical, artistic style, and design factors in a bit here. As GW2 is great at all of that it succeeds. With WoW in a slight lead over TOR Scores: WoW: 42.5/51 (83.33%) TOR: 31.5/51 (60.78%) GW2: 47/51 (92.15) When I have a large chunk of time on my hands I'll rethink the max scores and scores to get cleaner results. Post your thoughts on this. NO FLAMING pls

GW2 kills the grind.

As long as you don't roll NELF... : P

I have tried to create a rough showdown between the 3 big MMO's so here we go! The numbers to the left of the categories are the maximum score I can give for that category decided by how important it is.(obviously the GW2 scores are estimates.) 10Group gameplay: WoW10 > GW28 > TOR6 In this one WoW has a maxed score with GW2 following closely and TOR close behind that. I'm really not sure about the GW2 score I am not sure how the removal of the trinity will shape up. But until it's released theirs nothing to do but watch with trepidation. 8PVP gameplay: GW28 > WoW7 > TOR5 I put GW2 ahead of WoW because it's more dynamic. TOR's lower score is attributed to control an issue we will get to later. 6Solo gameplay: GW26 > TOR5 > WoW2 With a bit more variety TOR might have scored higher. GW2's "Dynamic events" get the cookie here. 6Story: TOR6 > WoW5.5 > GW24.5 I love WoW's lore but I gave the advantage to TOR for better quest story. 15System: WoW15 = GW215 > TOR6 This category is an amalgamation of mainly UI and Control. (NOTE: Control not Controls!) This is what makes or breaks the game TOR doesn't have the smooth controls of the others so it loses here. 6Visuals: GW26 > WoW3.5 > TOR3 This one is a combination of technical, artistic style, and design factors in a bit here. As GW2 is great at all of that it succeeds. With WoW in a slight lead over TOR Scores: WoW: 42.5/51 (83.33%) TOR: 31.5/51 (60.78%) GW2: 47/51 (92.15) When I have a large chunk of time on my hands I'll rethink the max scores and scores to get cleaner results. Post your thoughts on this. NO FLAMING pls:)

7 (this is using a full 10point system where 5 is average(unlike say IGN where 7 is average)

WoW had this when it came out so no excuse.

As far as I'm concerned companion gear is a useless system it would make more sense if you just had customization kits. It's useless and frustrating:mad:

Vanguard/Powertech don't get healing.

No I need my healbot!

Sith pure blood looks nothing like a Draenei. You seem to be mixing up Draenei with Eredar.

Thinking about rerolling vigilance. So is vigilance good for PVP? Can someone also link a good spec? What form is best? (yes I know shien is in the tree but I heard somewhere that soresu is better)

Without specifying what type of gameplay you doing we can't really tell you witch one is better. FP/Ops=Watchman PVP=Combat out of those 2.

Well they can't make the game better for kids without worsening it for the rest of us. Try to get her to play a single player RPG instead. If she cant kill elites she's not going to able to do any group content by a long shot.

Battlefield theme:D

That's one huge post

Not lag have you ever played WoW the control is much smoother. It gives you a better feeling of control resulting in much higher levels of immersion.

The game is great but the control needs improvement this issue will make or break swtor

ya some of the unnecessary whining is annoying me

Bioware this game has potential it also has lots of problems but you NEED to concentrate on fixing the delay no amounts of new content or minor fixes will save this game. Delay > Other Problems > New Content

Definitely things that need to be done but there's lots of worse problems they need to work on.

that would work really well if the prequels didn't suck

IV-VI then either pretend "those movies" don't exist and be a good person or ruin their day and show them "those movies" and watch them

Only good change ever made in the remakes was the different song at the very end of ROTJ on the DVD remake. However to get the better song you have to put up with Jabba's palace:(

Communism > Capitalism.

Also Obi-Wan is 1 Smart 2 Taught Anakin. And we all know that at that moment at the end the fight Anakin was mind-controlled by a specific hare. Who suggested that he should "DO A BARREL ROLL!!"