Honestly its prob half or even more marauders that are crap period.. No spec is more superior to the other to me atleast, each play key roles and each spec is now viable on the marauder class and very powerful aswell. Give you this, annihilation is prob the best spec survivability wise and you can do great damage aswell, but as I said no spec is more superior to any of the other its more about the person behind that marauder.

It really is dependent on that. Experience and research would help u learn everything ur wanting to know.

I swear people who bash rage and think rage specs are solely reliant on smash are Rtards or have only fought Rtard rage specs. Should post a video of me ragin it up without using a single smash and still dominating. @ topic Try all the specs out and see what fits you, its all about your style of play and which build fits YOU. Personally I switch specs liek a fool averaging around 500k a week on respecs(im lowballing it by alot). Mainly rage tho, altho I do enjoy all of them.

You know what else is impossible thats been bothering me?! People shooting lightning out of their hands... that just doesnt make sense. When have you ever seen anyone shoot lightning out their hands... come on now bioware make it a little believable.

Probably helped crowd control alot more then someone who is a single target dmg dealer. Im not bashing either spec, but both play their parts well. 200k for 50 kills? did something change in the big patch? lol havent played dling it atm tho..

Guarantee there was a marauder on your server that people ran and hid from.

I used to bash carnage always saying it was the marauder suck spec.. and in all honesty its really not that bad. I've been in matches with equally geared anni and rage spec marauders and im still pulling my weight. The only downside like the guy above me said its less survivability. It really is a viable spec. PS: my main spec is rage.. but im always switching around on specs.. recently been using a 13/15/13 thats been wrecking aswell.

Start watching some marauder videos or something... and everyone saying "have you tried annih" Every and I repeat EVERY talent tree is viable and good at lvl 50 pvp.. Hell im playing with a 13/15/13 spec just for funzies and im still wrecking. My tips to you is do some research if you havent found a way to own on a mara yet.. Or it might just not be the class for you..

But.. there is a combo thats involved, Id like to see any rage warrior only use smash and see how far he goes. There's a build up before smash and if you and your friends are just sitting in groups together and see a rage/focus warrior charge you guys.. you deserve to be smashed for 6k. If you don't know what to look for against your enemy, might be about time for you to do some research on other classes.

stay rage! It really doesnt suck at all.. plus your benefiting your team WAY more by being able to aoe melt faces. 1 v 1 id say spec annihilation.. hell id even say carnage, recently specced it and was doing really sick numbers.. Every week im spending 300k atleast on repecs but my main spec is rage, but it will get boring just playing it solely.

Rage is still viable 1v1.. just gotta remember melee attacks inbetween smash's arent your enemies you still do decent melee.. Also would liek to add champ from bm gear is hardly a upgrade, i mean im sure it helps but full champ and rage you can break 5k ez. But you can get 5k easy with rage, use a power relic.. power stim.. find a squishy, my rule of thumb is smash everything in sight if i break 4k on a guy, i know who to use my relic and stim on now. Id say about a 75% chance of hitting that 5k medal in each game.. Ive gotten close also on anni/carnage aswell.. altho i have never broke 5k i see it possible with the annihilation top tier attack forget the name and force scream for carnage. So the answer for your question, highest burst damages deff is rage, plus you do it to multiple targets.. in most wz situations your not gonna run into too many 1v1's it happens but with ilum or any wz people tend to be grouped up and you wrecking a group of people for chunks of damage is going to help your group out more then a single person focusing spec.. plus its just cool when a group of 3 or more people who half are low in health and you just dropped them all from a single smash.

You prob don't really need bm to break it since full bm is like a 5% upgrade from champ. Nice dmg tho @ main poster

I break 300k's easily and I am one of the top dmg dealers as rage, even when I spec annihilator I break 300k's easy. The class is fine and I know you said "Honestly I dont need anyone saying LTP" but really you should consider it.. do research.. figure how to play. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/815/560k.png/ thats proof that marauders are fine dmg dealers. Also I think your looking at the whole picture wrong.. yea maybe some people will out dmg you but how many of them can deal with u 1 on 1. If you play your class right mercs and sorcs should be really easy pickins

This applies to pve and pvp, its easy to suck as a marauder.. its hard to be good. While levelling my marauder I noticed if I didn't do the right things fights can be very rough but on the other hand if I did the right things it would be a cake walk. There really is nothing wrong with the class pve, its just how you play it.. but if your having a problem with the class there are easier ones to play. Im not trying to be rude by saying this at all but its the truth.

Lets all be really honest, as a marauder you dont faceroll every jugg.. same goes for juggs saying they faceroll every marauder.. Everyone wants to make it out to be like their class is the god of pvp and they never lose 1 v 1. Ive yet to meet a person who is unstoppable 1v1.. alot of it just comes down to either luck, gear, or who did the right things at the right times. As with any class you don't faceroll everyone 1 v 1.. stop trying to make it seem like your class is the best ever, its not.. be realistic about it and stop putting yourself on a highhorse. As a marauder one of my worste encounters seriously has to be a well geared tank just cause he has the abilities to make most of my damage outputs hit not compare to like me smashing a sorcerer(im rage spec btw) i mean ill get the jump on the fight with a headstart, but if I don't do the right things after both my pre smash abilities and after popping that 2nd smash.. he can beat me. Now a jugg thats not specced for tank might as well be as squishy as a marauder. Now as for which class does more damage? Id say try them both and see how it works for you. Making a post on here is just going to get you biased opinions on which class is better and which does more for groups of pvp, as being shown already. My opinion, I see more marauders hitting the highscores on my server then a jugg, im sure it happens but not nearly as often as a marauder. With any of the specs for a marauder your capable of doing decent to great dmg(and yes this includes carnage altho personally think its the most gimped spec out of the 3 but ive seen marauders do just fine with it) ) Not talking down on this at all, but come on now voidstar isnt exactly the best place to judge which class is better dps as its AOE/Smash heaven. In retrospect you hit 590k dmg but got only 9 kills? nice dmg but what did you really do? jump into a giant group and smash away, which i've gotten around the same with my marauder doin the same thing. Again not demoting what you did its impressive but by no means something spectacular.