Its like witnessing a train wrecking into plane crashing.

Nar Shaada, artwise, can compare to any zone in WoW and single-handeledly win in my opinion. It feels amazing to walk the streets in on that world.

This just cannot end well.

This cuts deep.

I came a troll, I left feeling stupid

I've pulled worst things out of the trash

Only true fans come to qq on the forums.

I didn't think you could type this statement without spontanously combusting.

but but but...Diablo is sooo...Diablo-ish

I love swtor, but lets not kid ourselves here and say pvp is great right now because It still has a lot of growing up to do. And if we all give enough love and attention, make sure it doesn't hang out with the wrong crowd and experiment with shooting pcp into his balls, were going to have a great pvp.

The game just senses your frustration and does everything in its power to gimp your team. SWTOR feeds off tears.

Explosions not happening every two minutes sounds like a scary proposition. What a cold, dark future that would be.

I can't help but feel like this was meant to trash WoW.

Rifts launch was sexy as hell. i lost you at the pizza analogy however, and now im hungry.

Inquis complaining about heals? God forbid they roll an IA and have to manage energy.

Good to hear. The previous ones were packaged disappointment

Some people just need to learn to let go.

What follows is going to be sketchy as hell and probly wrong.

Ok, this is my last attempt on you. 1. There is still a need for expansions with endgames, I.E. WoW and all its clones with their extended content. You propose a player does enough quests and the final quest giver says...good job i guess and your done. God forbid a player gets to that point before your wildly unrealistic rate of DLC has pooped out another addition because there's no repetition so that player has literially nothing to do. Period. Nothing. 1(1/2) Oh here's something I really didn't want to get into, how does this games economy work if there is no endgame or need for repetition gear wise? How does the crafting system work if noone needs to buy armor because their are only quests and they give quest rewards? Why should anyone join a guild because what purpose would that serve at all? There's no pvp too because that's endgame content and godforid a player has to grind experience or valor or anything there. 2. Good luck coming up with a new grand story at the unreasonable pace that you are trying to acomplish. What's making these stories worth while to the people when so much gameplay is being neglected? Why not just watch a damn movie? 3. Propose to me how your system truely works. I promise its 100 times easier for me to ripe this thread apart then for you to conjure a miracle solution to supplement an endgame in WoW like mmo's without changing them into something completely different. FML he left???? omg... i can't believe i wasted my time typing this....someone just say...give me a pat on the back.

It's that classic arguement if their ignorance is excusable when the information is clearly presented and avaliable. Ouch...to many big words...owy

And raiding is that sense of saving the world, its how developers end their stories. Because that's what mmo's of this nature require, an endgame. You simple cannot remove it and replace it with what your calling for. Can't you see that your creating your own paradox here? Story cannot suffice by itself if your missing the gameplay which needs raiding and the repetition. "numerous non-wow/eq clone games" - were not talking about those games in this thread. Basically what your attempting to do is remove the mmo from the equation and make this a single player experience with dlc.

"only in everquest/wow timesinks, your character spends more time in 85 than level 84. and that is simply because a huge repetitive timesink is introduced into the game at that end point.."-op This is going to blow your mind op. Did you ever stop to think that lvls 1-85 are the timesink, and 85 is where the game starts?

LOL i said help him...not....well never mind

Op cannot comprehend this nor post a proper alternative that is realisitic.

On a side note, in that end game thread, i think the op died trying to think of a proper alternative to raiding. you should go help him out or something. i actually had to form slightly coherent sentences. it was aweful.