I think Guardian/Jug need to be looked at seriously by the Devs. They need a real boost to make players actually want to play them.

They are laying of staff, but this should be a major concern...right.

I think Lotro was the last fully fledged MMO released. They don't bother to make them like that anymore, MMO's are purely a buisness project, Make enough on the boxes and keep them happy for a few of months. Thats your investment made into a profit, they don't make them for people who play the same MMO for a few years these days.

Character transfer should never be allowed. If there is a server popualtion problem they should merge servers. Transfering toons leads to imbalances in server populations as people migrate around to find a sever where their side rules pvp...Aion anyone? The issues transfers can cause is not exactly a secret, but EA would rather have that issue than have the press announcing they were going to merge servers. Bad publicity is more important than good MMO managment it seems. Which leads me on to may next point, I wonder if we will ever see servers merge in a MMO from now on, I doubt it.

Just gone over this thread, did not realise we had a separate tanking forum. As noted in my own thread, just why would you play a Jug? They dont have range, stealth anything that the other two do. They are not the best single target or multiple target tank. I do think I have wasted my time playing a Jug, I never played it to look like Darth Vader or anything like that, just be the best tank.

It just seems to me Jugs have no special forte, they can't sneak around, do ranged, heal themselves etc. So they should be able to take more damage than the others, or perhaps I should say need less heals. Hit pionts, DR, something like that to give players a reason to play them. Its not a matter or being the best its more having to compete against classes that can tank fine and have great mojo in other areas. If we can't tank better than the othes what do we have? PT's are ranged thats what a blaster is for.

Classically a Juggernaut would be the best tank, but is this true? A tank specced Assassin seem to do rather well; same number of taunts, guardian shield and so on. If Jugs are not better as tanks what point is there to the game having them? I do realise about the armour but have you tried tanking with an Assassin and failed where a Jug pulled through? With the Power Techs ranged and the Assassins stealth and high dps, if we are not better at tanking the class is pointless.

We just need a better UI, not dumbing down of the combat.

Patch was Tuesday, client message is still saying servers are down, come on guys thats lame.

I think the devs know what is needed, its been done in so many MMO's before. Before we all get to 50 and have to manage a mass of buttons please sort it out SWtOR guys.

I have done some BT runs just to get my SP's up, so people do care.

Agree with OP, but I think the sort of people who drift into guilds or just stay solo for lack of effort are also the sort of people who won't read their games forum. But yes, it pays to check guilds out and get involved in grouping.

What the hell is luxury roleplay? Did you have any Naa Shadaa chocolates left over?

To be viable from a design point of view a new race will need to be usable in at least 3 classes. I think thats what they decided looking at what we have now. A race that just fits one class is not going to wash.

Its a roleplay tool, they stopped bothering with that sort of thing after Lotro. Don't want to sound negative but I think roleplayers need to wake up to what has happened to MMO's and fight for what we once had.