Would also like to reiterate what we are looking for: good players with potential. Healers, Tanks, rDPS, and to a lesser extent mDPS. We are currently restructuring our progression team and our raid times, so Wed/Thu as well as the 9:30pm ET start time are flexible going forward. Hit us up!

Sorry if this was already covered and this is off topic - but have people been complaining about our pve set bonus? I literally laughed out loud in my chair when I read the 3rd set. So bad... all three. Let's see: 2set - effective 1% overall dmg increase, assuming Serenity Strike on cd. 4set - 15s off of force potency. Prob the best one but still pretty meh. 6set - Auto-crit on Spinning or Shadow Strike.... once a minute. I mean I know they toned down everyone's set bonus but yeezus this seems pretty crappy. Think I might keep my old 4 set for a bit, guess I'll test both when I get the new 6set.

Looking for a tank to jump right into 8m DF/DP NiM content. Currently 5/5 DF NiM and have been 4/5 DP NiM for about 3 months - need that special someone to finish this off (consistently getting to last phase council). Also looking to complete Gate Crasher. This is a permanent raid spot and would continue right into 3.0... any tank class is fine. Must be geared and have experience past Nefra and Bestia (NiM). Geared dps/heal alts preferred as well. Raid times are Wed and Thu nights 9:30pm EST, we usually go for 3hrs. Once 3.0 drops we will add a third raid day, which will either be Sun or Mon same time.

Yeah, Madness is great for every fight in DF NiM. For DP, I like to switch to Deception for Calph and Rapt... performs well in both. Even better in 2.10

NiM Calph Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - 2648 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/735199/27/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

NiM Tyrans - 3252 deeeeeeeps http://www.torparse.com/a/732507/33/0/Overview

Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - 3m 53.398s - 4276 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/721096/1/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - 3m 53.398s - 4276 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/721096/1/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

Hey Dawn - our progression team is currently looking for a healer. We raid Wed/Thu 9:30pm ET and Sun or Mon same time. We are 5/5 DF NiM (with Conqueror title) and 1/5 DP NiM. Right now we're working on Gate Crasher in DF and Tyrans in DP NiM. If interested, take a look at our site http://www.redemption-swtor.com and throw in an app so we can take a closer look. Thanks, Civ

http://www.torparse.com/a/711611/time/1403996004/1403996240/0/Overview

NiM Grob Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - Redemption - 4260 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/710395/time/1403921518/1403921877/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - 3m 56.222s - 4229 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/711611/tim...240/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/characte...b-8048bcec9d0e

Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - 3m 56.222s - 4229 dps http://www.torparse.com/a/711611/time/1403996004/1403996240/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

NiM Bestia Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - Redemption - 3415 dps http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e http://www.torparse.com/a/707709/9/0/Overview

http://www.torparse.com/a/704765/time/1403303067/1403303303/0/Overview 3m 56.748s 4218 dps

Great guide man, thanks. And yeah one of these days I'll post my expected damage calculations for optimal crit - but yeah you're close, 230-250 crit in DF/DM gear is optimal. I also have 284 for stat budget reasons though.

http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

Looks like you missed this Keiki.

Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 7/3/36 http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e NiM Nefra http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/2/0/Overview 4037 dps NiM Drax http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/10/0/Overview 3225 dps NiM Grob http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/tim...438/0/Overview 3732 dps (and I had to stealth rez a tank ;p) NiM CZ http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/tim...787/0/Overview 3360 dps NiM Brontes http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/34/0/Overview 2444 dps

NiM Nefra http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/2/0/Overview 4037 dps NiM Drax http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/10/0/Overview 3225 dps NiM Grob http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/time/1403231043/1403231438/0/Overview 3732 dps (and I had to stealth rez a tank ;p) NiM CZ http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/time/1403232487/1403232787/0/Overview 3360 dps NiM Brontes http://www.torparse.com/a/703254/34/0/Overview 2444 dps

I don't get the crit stacking thing... and I really don't get why anyone is talking about "percent" crit. There really isn't a reason to aim for a certain percentage. No ability in the Balance spec benefits from any more than 400 crit. I get that high crit reduces variance and/or range of total damage... but in a wz? You want the amount of crit that will give the best average expected damage. That's probably like 300 crit in pvp (you want a little more in pvp than pve... FiB and DoTs all benefit from around 400 crit, and these make up more of your damage in pvp).

Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - 3m 58.067s - 4196 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/698779/time/1402725386/1402725624/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

Civilie - Shadow - Balance - 8/2/36 - 3m 58.067s - 4196 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/698779/time/1402725386/1402725624/0/Overview http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3f45da43-9c76-486d-8d3b-8048bcec9d0e

Yeah I know Torhead lists it as 0.775 but I'm not sure thats right. In fact, I've found other values on there that didn't seem quite right (most are right, like Assasinate). But yeah, it could be that since the natural crit rate on Thrash is so high that crit rating begins to lose value more quickly.

Hmm... your math is a little off. Optimal crit rate on Thrash is about 225-250 (didn't calc exact but it is around here). Did you include the 9% crit chance from Force Synergy? I assumed 100% up time, and I included 15% crit chance from set bonus. Thrash has a relatively high Bonus Damage coefficient... which is why crit only goes so far, even with that 50% surge bonus. I also used a 74.96% surge multiplier as well (my gear is DF with some DM).