So you do 1v1s or soloplay in warzones when i try to burst healers, pass the ball and root/snare their carriers. Top ranked player. Rofl. My opnion of you degrades more and more. Srsly you made my day lol. Ho man you'll enjoy your gosu dot spec when you'll get full dispelled by competent players in rated wz. And no sorry i never get fair 1v1s in wzs, i alway use my cc breaking abilities to protec the doors/turrets when people cc me. At least in ilum you can't bump melees in fires/acid.

Sorry but you don't bait the troll if you're trolling. So i'll try to take you seriously and act like you were serious. And the result will be the same. 1 Reading comprehension much ? You talked about wasting a trinket a root, meaning it crossed your mind somehow. 2 I switch specs a lot. 70% of the time i spec leth. i'm not even mm speced right now. And mm spec can still shine. 3 to get those ambush cast times you need reactive shot for ambush (and it's less than 1.6) or insane amounts of alacrity, and 2s for sos really ? If you have reactive shot you have diversion and yes you hardcounter the mm sniper. And you won't be able to cover to put pressure remember ? So no explo probe, no ambush. You said you were leth, not hybrid, pointless to laze loL. Fact is, even with the 2mn alacrity cd & alacrity talent you don't get those cast times. 4 But dude, snipe sucks, you only use it to proc FT. And keep dreaming you won't get 800 dot crits. Yep, totally serious... Never did i try to troll once, but you think you're better playing the joking/troll guy when you're toasted and lack arguments. @mjAstro : Nonsense much ? We're talking about a duel scenario. Facts : you will never have full cds vs a full cd for duels in warzones. NEVER. True 1v1s are rare. You will get them if you are doing your dailies in ilum, be it in the pvp subzone or not. It's the best freaking example i could use. And btw i'm queen elizabeth and got 2950 rating in wow for 7 years straight., so it means i must be right, right ? And i never lost to any sniper, being either MM, leth, or leth/eng. Doesn't mean i'll try to fight a MM sniper in an open area and expect to win. edit : I think people reading this thread will have a good laugh, but not the reasons you think.

Good snipers don't waste their cc breakers on a root in a 1v1, even specced MM. And good leth snipers shouldn't hardcast an ambush vs another sniper in a 1v1 unless their opponent ate a flash while not dotted without their cc breaker available, wich should never happen. Very bad examples that made something clear. Both of you just don't know how this matchup works and never played against good opponents. But then again 99% of snipers are bad so...

You might really like this, a very cool pvp spec http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#400rkrddRoRZbI0roRZb.1 Some points are debatable cover screen vs markmanship, imperial demarcation 1/2 or 2/2, 4% hp or not.

Abused how exactly ? You see a ss gs in ilum who goes near you, juste a 1v1 what'll you do ? Dot him and use your leet skills to invoc a box or a pillar out of nowhere ? You think your dots will burn 17K hp ? You think your 3s immunity will be enough if he's retarded enough not to use his techs skills during it ? You think you can run away when he can root you too ? What will you do without explosive probe, without sos, without cull ? Without being able to cc him ? Tell me ? You won't deal any pressure without cull. Yes you can root him at the start of the fight and he'll likely flash you at the same time, going melee, and if you don't break the flash he's already bursting you, immune to your ccs, without you being able to do any burst. And their burst is scary too good, if you try to meleee stun them and they stun you first you'll get instant crit snipe ft reduced cast time ambush explo probe and 2/3 of your hp will be gone. And mid fight your dots will break roots. Now another fact for you, you don't kill geared players as leth without cull unless they're bad, get kited or have 12k hp. If you think otherwise pvpers must suck big time on your server. Ho and i forgot, i have more than 3 iq so i don't follow leth snipers where they can los exploit me. Nuff said.

I never edited anything. And MM snipers can use flashbang and debilitate too. Don't think it's trademark to leth snipers... Srsly lol...but stop playing against baddies. @rodcs : Diversion BREAKS cover, even with entrench.

Against a mm sniper you abuse los or die. Sorry but it's a fact based on the mechanics. You won't be able to cull. And entrench is 100% useless with diversion.

A jack of all trades spec http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#400bZbI0roRZGbbkrMhzM.1 is better for pvp and http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#400bZrI0bRoZGbbkrMhd.1 better for pve On low hp targets (meaning <15k) you should always use explosive probe before the cull.

Kaliyo can be good once you get your mount. Put her in tank mode, mount up when she dies (rez hez & regens her to full). I lvled mine to 50 with vector and his dot stance, good for places where you can't mount up to regen, can share aggro + very good assist dps. Temple i didn't like at all, gets no aggro, you take way to much damage on each pack + she always does her 3s cast on low hp mobs.... If i were more knowledgable i'd defenitly have used vector once he's available but i would have replaced with lokin, and i would have geared lokin a lot with good blues or mods with instances, commendations and gtn. Ghoul stance is useless.

Loved the intro, all the musics and the epicness of your huttball goal with vangelis xD. Hated the format (way too much black bars on yt, i know it's intended but not being able to see your and your oppononts hp/energy is a huge minus for me), the way you always outnumber your opponents. Awesome for a first try.

Use your cc breaker on his stun, not his kb, NEVER on his kb. Pop your pvp healing consumable/medpac and blind him directly. Run away, if he uses his anti cc stun him, damage him while running away and before the stun fades, don't dot him, now root him + stop dps and continue to make distance betweeen him and you. Now either he pops his vanish or he's dead, even if he can dispell or evasion. Now watch the cd of your root and the state of his resolve bar for your bump (should be full for a bit of time). If he vanishes and you think you can't kite anymore pop xs on fourself + hunker down + scrambling field. If you're out of combat regen quickly. If you have your anti cc and he doesn't he will 100% lose. If you don't have yours he'll stunlock you +~30% hp. I have no problems vs ops or scoundrels doing this (i'm sniper btw), if you use your bump to kite you'll loose because he'll still be in range to shoot and root you, but it also depends on the spec (if you have a spec with wounding shot you should also have dirty trickster), you can even bait the dispell to apply sapping charge for the snare after (df/sabo hybrid is a strong pvp spec). Ho and of course you need to be opti too (biochem reusables have a short cd so always avaible when needed, mandatory to pvp for every class) and good pvp gear (good hp pool/expertise) to survive a bit of burst, but it's common sense. Nearly the same strat applies to uterly destroy other melees, except opening with pulse detonator can be a better choice and you should make sure you are covered when juggernauts/marauders are no longer rooted (watching the debuffs) to not get charged. Ofc it's trickier than this but it gives good basics on how to fight them.

Considering every sniper has already bug-reported it ig i hope the devs are already well aware of cover issues and working on it. Still gets me worried, 2 months post release :\

I was always wondering what kind of stats i would have once i farmed my bm gear, And considering i was the only sniper pvping on my server at the time i couldn't ask anyone. With ALL stats datacrons, including +10 one. For those wondering if the upgrade from champion is worth the trouble. 3 three advanced 25 mods (24endu/51preci/37cc) reduced to advanced 24 mods (38endu/18cc/48afflux) On my spec i have +1% hit, +4% hp (actually gives a little less, 2/2 vitalitty serum), 2/3 lethality (4% instead of 6, but i'll give you stats with 3/3 because nearly everyone specs it) Self buffed with rakata stim & 5% cc : -17320 hp -3547 armor (24.72% reduction) -704 expertise (12.66%) -1570 cunning Ranged : 413-505 base weapon damage -422 bonus dmg -96.16% precision -36.05% cc -73, 41% bonus cc dmg tech : -675.9 bonus dmg -34.93% cc same. Without stim for the few heretics who aren't biochem yet : -1448 cunn -387.4 bonus dmg -35.39% cc -640.9 tech bonus dmg -34.27% tech cc Without remoding (and my modding may be not opti) i had (from memory, can vary) ~100%-+ precision, ~1% more crit and ~63% surge + a little less health. Every set piece of bm gear has precision and no surge.

Smart players will wait the corrosive grenade to diversion and interrupt your cull.

Honestly i don't find 1v1s hard on my sniper. I think we're a very strong class in this regard. It all depens on the engagement and the terrain. In an operative opens you and gets a box to to freelos you and heal, you're screwed and must run away. Happens all the time on wzs. On open field he dies, even if he gets the opener. Same with assassins and sorcs. On huttball those 3 classes are VERY annoying for me. On ilum i laugh. I won't make a ranking. But tank assassins can wipe tech, have good dps and take a lot of kiting and time to kill. In wz you'll always get other aggros so it's the worst class to face for me BY FAR, simply not worth the trouble.

On better thoughts Leth or leth/eng will die once rated warzones come out. You don't want to burn half your energy bar everytime you need to switch targets or to be dispelled. Either they fix/buff our MM tree/skills or good teams will take others ranged classes. No cover, no bugs, no deflections, better position defenders and far better ball carriers + better utility for more reliable dps (bc not bothered by defense). True story.

Sorry, but i know leth/eng has insane burst and good aoes. That's the spec i'm using, not exactly like yours.

Except those same players roll this class because they know they're bad and this class is cut for them. The majority of pvpers play sorc. Bad players still give awesome utility compared to other classes and it's a fact, INSTANT bubbles, bumps, dispel & ccs are very hard to cast from what i heard, ho and they can stop running to click their 4K heals, even if they have 0 pts in their healing tree, derp.

No energy management, one of the easiest set of priorities in your dps cycle. Ho let me guess, you think using bubble & dispell or your teammates takes "skill" rofl... That's why i said only "good" players knew sorcs were laughable to play, and looking at your posts you aren't one of them.

Actually i do. Try harder.

Sorc/sage takes no skill & has the lowest skill cap of all classes. Every good pvper who has a sorc agrees btw.

/agree. This class is too addictive. Not only the burst potentiel is totally out of control (totally op) once you get good gear (eng/leth) but the animations and sounds of our skills are made of awesome too, explosive probe & cluster bombs, the way you fire your sos...

Pvping as MM is so much more fun. You literally spam 3-4K5+ skills. leth or leth/eng hybrid are boring and they'll probably suck once rated wz come out. And you didn't roll a sniper to dot people right ? But then you see a melee coming at you, you legshot him and it gets deflected, you cast ambush to knock him back when he comes at you + ft, both get deflected, you flashbang and reposition yourself he breaks it with his anti-cc, charges you and you can't cover because he rooted you. Armor was never a problem, but defense is, and broken mechanics too. yep our class is fine...lolno, sorry but you're just fooling yourself if you think so. And i have full bm gear without remoding, so i get a lot of accuracy (100% base), and everyone still deflects me EVERYTIME. Strange, on my sorc i can smash my keyboard like a monkey and averything ALWAYS hits, and i can spam forever. Balance right ?

Ouais ben le tooltip est merdique alors, sur mon perso ca dit bien "santé maximum de 15% (hp pool max quoi), rien n'indique une potentielle augmentation des hp actuels. En gros c'est un peu comme un last stand ala wow quoi. Nénamoins il a pas tort, biochem c'est surtout pour le stim réutilisable qu'on le prend. Le dopant rakata est à chier en pvp comparé à celui d'expertise. Et si le rakata medpac était vraiment plus intéressant les joueurs pvp biochem arrêteraient de se trimballer avec 200+ medipacs de zone de guerre dans leur sac et de les utiliser sous cd (cf toutes les vidéos & les streams).

Ca augmente ton hp pool mais ca te heal pas. Exemple à la con inc : 4K hp/16K, admettons que le rakata heal pour 3k et file 2K pv(15% bonus) tu passeras à 7K/18k. Il vaut mieux use un truc qui rend direct 4K pour passer à 8K. La popo pvp reste meilleure et le sera encore plus si t'es bourré de pv. L'intérêt du rakata c'est le cd, et l'économie sur les points en phase de stuff, si t'es opti tu te trimballes avec des medpacs de warzone en plus, même si t'es biochem.