Oh wow. I know you're stuck with Swtor. It's pretty obvious in your posts you are in denial about the decline of Swtor and it's crap PvP. You're really an advocate for gear based PvP because it makes up for your lack of skill. BF3, TF2 and planetside isnt the same as Swtor PvP my friend. You can talk about customization on those games but they are side upgrades mostly in those games. I won't talk about COD cause I dont play it. But here's the point I wanted to make really is that this game is so imbalanced for PvP yet you are so crying and wanting more grinds for advantage. From a logical point of view you're a baddie who has to have an advantage for the game to be "fun" for you but the general consensus of gamers are moving towards SKILL based PvP. You're living for a dying genre. Don't worry Swtor will be here for another 6 months until the next massive exodus to Elder Scrolls/Titan.

Oh man you make me laugh. I read the forums from time to time but you're definitely a class act. You're the type of person is like "OMG PLIS MOAR GRIND I WANNA GET MY GEAR ADVANTAGE TO PVP CAUSE I'M CLUELESS"

Yes Yes YES! that totally explains everything! No it doesnt if you dont know who Rickman is and what he does then I can't help you. But don't worry in 6 months you will know.

Let's be real here. 2.3 million boxes sold. Aprox 500K subs meaning 1.8 million left. Yes there is totally nothing wrong with this game!

Well I can post I havent got an active sub.

I like how I said that my opinion is that Swtor is skilless then you come in and try claiming "90%" of WoW arena players are scrubs. Here some advice "I'm sure you have emperical evidence to backup that claim rather than your anecdotal experiences? Oh yeah ...." You must be a god among men oh wait you just destroyed your own argument with your "advice"

What other numbers would there be? Of course subscription. Why would I need to get my mind back? Swtor already lost 20% subs in the first month. It's going to be even more awesome this month to see them losing subs again. Better yet I'll even go as far as to say that Swtor will die before this coming summer.

Oh here we go with Darkfail and DAoC argument. Please understand we are talking about theme park MMOs. Swtor is theme park MMO but it still doesnt change the fact Rift and WoW have better pvp than Swtor does it? Exactly what was your argument again? It's like comparing CoD and Counter Strike next time think before you type.

Much more than you can fathom.

Listen you clearly lack any sort of argument or reasoning if you dont even know what tank hybrid can do.

More like pointing out the flaw in argument by using his own logic.

No it's your opinion that Swtor PvP is better than WoW and it's my opinion that Swtor PvP is crap and skilless. Say what you what and believe what you want but numbers dont lie.

Even if you so say "90%" of wow arena players are "scrubs" it doesnt change the fact they still better than ToR "scrubs"

Maybe if you are still living life playing 31 deception. Everybody runs tank hybrid spec now days if you havent realised. And it hardly has any coooldowns and it's probably the best 1v1 spec in game.

Nice presumption but however you clearly stating your own demise. Swtor pvp lacks complexness. Just looking at how you post tells me alot about you. If you think fire traps and acid are great. I have no problem with that because it's part of the game so why would I "cry" about it. If you actually read my post you would understand what I said instead of trying project your image of a QQ on me.

Oh I do indeed like WoW PvP more than Swtor PvP but It doesnt mean I think WoW PvP is the end of end. Now what?

Just because you have 10 more binds than other classes in SWTOR doesnt make it the most complex class to ever exist it's on par with average classes in other MMOs

Indeed it is.

Since my sub is coming to end and I most likely wont be subbing again I'd like to actually get thoughts of other people on this issue/ leave future reference for other people. Dont worry I won't be talking about lack of PvP content or the horrible implementation of PvP in this game but rather an issue which strikes me the most. During the course of 2 months gameplay spread between my 3 characters I've noticed the extreme lack of skill in PvP. Hear me out. I'm talking about how anyone can play any class without even thinking. It's not even a feat to master one's class in this game. There is no game changing cooldowns like for example Pain Suppression and so forth. There is no real penalty for not using your cooldowns. There is no real incentive to time your cooldowns or manage your skills for example like managing your energy. In fact there is actuallly no good cooldowns in the first place. All the cooldowns in game are so dumbed down it's unreal. There is no incentive to use control infact you could probably roll your dribbling face on the keyboard and beat people with most classes. Most specs in this game arent even viable which leads to people playing broken hybrid builds. Everybody is clone of the next. In WoW I could see 3 DKs in BG using different specs (blood,frost and unholy) most of them time and that isnt even unusual. All these issues just leads to sub par PvP experience. Most of the so called "PvPers" still left in game are more or less attached to fact this game is so easy to play that even if they were sub par players in other games they can be so called "pros" in this game. It's a joke. 10-49 bracket is a complete joke. Everyone will say "but it's so fun". The reason is so fun is cause most of the people are so clueless. This goes for both empire and republic. I have characters on both side and both are bad as the other. I mean people struggle to get 4-6 medals in games whilst people with brain that have actually played PvP in other games are getting 8-11 medals each game without any effort. Just goes to show how bad some people are. As for the 50 bracket do I even need to say more? It's just a cluster of bads thinking they are godlike because they have their "PvP Titles" and gear. I'm suprised they havent realised PvP in this game is complete joke. I bet I'm going to hear "OMG QQ ME AND PREMADE ARE AWESOME YO". Let me guess you want so called "competitive" PvP in ToR that's why you never made the cut in WoW PvP and especially Arena. All of you can hate on WoW but I doubt you have brains or skill to actually reach more than 1.5k rating and that is saying something. In all this game is just breeding poor pvp skill level. However if you still believe that PvP in ToR is awesome, you will have another thing coming your way if you ever decide to play another MMO. I have 9 days left on my sub and I'm rarely on for more than a hour a day these day. For the amount I paid for this game it's appalling. Tera Beta starts on the 10th of this month and I just got invited to Dota 2 beta so atleast something to pass the time which isnt utter crap until GW2 release. These are just my final thoughts on this game before I leave, you may or may not agree with them.

When ever there is a thread about "PvP being bad" typical fan boys will respond with "THIS A PvE GAME DEAL WITH IT"

Lol what do you expect from Biofail. Dont worry look upon the horizon for Tera Beta aswell Guild Wars 2!

LOL 2fort and de_dust are maps for newbies and noobs. Anyone who actually played the games would know.

I'm 46 on my alt with valor capped at 46 aswell just from pvping. It's crap that they cap your valor. I suppose if there wasnt a cap I would be somewhere in the 5xish valor ranks

Oh excuse me for not wanting to play against premade of battlemasters.

Implying you know anything? Lets just look at the tip of the Iceberg. Comparing a game that came out in 2004 to a game in 2011. Good one Sherlock. If you were going to actually compare games you will have to compare WoW as it stands now to Swtor. In which case WoW is still miles better. Let me guess you are going to come with the argument like "BUT YOU CANT COMPARE A NEW GAME TO A ONE THAT HAD 7 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT!!!1!" Yes we can because this is 2012 not 2004. Swtor has had 5 years of development and yet they still dont have the basic features that even FREE-TO-PLAY games have. Talk about appalling. I could write paragraphs and paragraphs about why WoW and other MMOs like Rift are still be miles better than Swtor but I wont unless you want to keep acting like you know anything. All you really need to know that Swtor is crap and wont survive this year. I mean Guild Wars 2 and Pandas are coming this year. Swtor stands no chance. Swtor can take it's place with Star Trek Online and DC Universe as biggest brand name fails.