I can only imagine how bad it must have been. It is the most frustrating thing I've ever experienced in a game.

Sith spit.. how many of these forced stealth breaking fights are there? You are making me want to log out and leave the rest of my six month subscription for the birds. No reward is worth this.

I am a Sith Assassin, Darkness. I generally SKIP most trash fights because, you know, stealth and the fact that while they cannot kill me it takes me a lot longer to kill them than a DPS class. So, I figure it is pretty even. I get less xp but I progress a tiny bit faster in the story than non stealth classes.... Oh wait.. sorry this skytrooper spawn instantly aggros you and even using Force Cloak will not lose aggro. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. FAIL. YOU *********** FAILED!!!! This is not how to make compelling content. Forcing stealthy non dps to suffer through tons of combat that should never even happen smacks of lazy developers who hate their players. If I wanted to play a combat class I would have rolled a Bounty Hunter or a Marauder.

As a returning player, I wish I had found this thread before shelling out for a six month subscription. What a lame decision. At the very least you could have made them have planet / environment based selection of outfits they would switch to dynamically. You know... to show that they have some sort of personality and individualism from the player. But running around a game where every companion looks the same is just awful. Just make a 1 player game ffs.

This is to your whole team: {There this time you can't pretend it breaks any rules you very **** *** ***** *** ****** ************! }

Try TSW. They gave out buddy keys this week. If you know someone playing it you can try it out for free.

Stop trolling. I know damn good and well how it works. Shutting servers down without warning IN GAME is not just amateurish it's pathetic. And to the guy above saying "Everything's ok now servers are back up" no, everything is not ok. I do not have any intention of sitting in that queue again for my sentinel to do a flashpoint on a pvp server. The first wait was over an hour. I was at the final boss I am done with playing the game for the day. I am having more fun in the forums. At least here there the grind is tolerable.

This game is the fallback for when TSW has downtime or my friend wants to play on my account lol

This is how Bioware deals with dissent they delete it. Amateurs. It's not the game itself that I hate. It's the people in the company that represents them that makes this game unworthy of my money or /care. Once this account expires it will be adios.

If I hadn't already concluded that this development team is full of a****** then I'd be surprised by this. Seeing as they've made jack***ess of themselves to many times already.. It's just one more reason they'll never see another dollar from me again.

Please and thank you.

Agreed. After 20+ pages of negative feedback to any upcoming change you'd think they'd at least make some kind of global announcement acknowledging the concerns of the player base and how they intend to ease those fears.

Oh yeah and another thing.. Let us purchase things for "ANY" class archetype from what ever character we want.. so we can send it to them when ever we wish.. rather than wait till AFTER it's first useful. For example.. lvl 9 is the lowest level mods you can make yet you are lucky to get to the vendor before level 10 unless you are skipping things. I should be capable of purchasing the vendor stuff from my main and send it to my lowbie.. Take for example, wrists, gloves, belt and head.. you will get them late and the starter chest/pants and boots will barely have any stats on them yet... So why not just pimp your character out in full cool looking gear right from day one?

The obvious thing is pick a few slots to make level with you.. but since this is a totally different game than others with bind on account / legacy stuff.. Let's try something fresh! Give us a box that contains 1 full set of mods for armor or weapon that scale to your level and are class relative. So if you buy a few boxes (200k each or x daily token thingies) your gear will scale from 1-50 at which time you'd pull them out and replace them with end game mods. You can also include the cool custom outfits.. but really the level 14 and 30ish sets are just dumb. The only people who benefit from these are the same people who can typically afford better. Totally misses the point of it. I bought 3 weapons and used 1.. sad that the only part of the legacy vendors I use at all is the lvl 10+ moddable gear (am legacy 25).

Glad to see they are finally coming around to what I said from the beginning lol.. Let us add Augments to any gear we want. Now we just gotta get every item in game reverse engineerable to a pattern.

On the vote kick, please require filling in a reason "Why?" before enabling the vote button: Person was disruptive to the team [ ] Voted Need Constantly (This is the persons fault) [ ] Was Rude (This is the persons fault) [ ] Caused team to wipe more than once (This is the persons fault) -------------------------------------------- Other Reasons [ ] Too Low of Level (Bug not the persons fault) [ ] Lacking Sufficient Gear (Can't be helped, some will and some will not carry a team mate) In this way people who truly are a disruption to the community can be put on a block list custom for grouping.. The "Other Reasons" do not count against the persons account rather notify the developers that their base group level filtering needs to be tweaked more. Then on the Find group option, the team leader (or solo players) filters would determine which repeat offenders won't show up. [X] No Ninjas [X] No Jerks [X] No Jokers --------------------------------------- [ ] No Lowbies [ ] No Gimps --------------------------------------- [X] Legacy Mode Enabled (Overrides legacy settings and puts it to visible as title by default for the duration of this team. This is intended to deter people from using alts with legacy hidden to grief others) By putting this on both sides you can minimize your chaos. People who get too many vote kicks for being rude simply will not be teamed with people that have a short patience for childishness. And of course. Any one who gets vote kicked for ninja'ing other class loot can also be prevented from joining most regular players games. Also, Those who don't mind carrying a lowbie or a gimp can allow them in their team, while those who specifically intend to kick that person just seconds after they join anyway can block them from joining by enabling a stricter rule set for match making of player level/gear level averages. If you do not make such a filter system understand the "chaos" will be great as the group finder tries to mash people together for large group ranged content. Lowbies will get kicked, gimps will get kicked and that will leave them with a bad experience since they really did nothing wrong. While people who repeatedly ninja other class loot will still have a new group to prey on coming up real soon. Same with people who get their kicks from upsetting others they will also know that one kick just means another group incoming.. Sure keeping it limited to server does sort of help these a little.. but believe me when I tell you not nearly as much as it should.

Thanks.. I got a time card as a present so I'm back for a short while. Although after my experience here in the forums. I do not care to post often. They have until the time card runs out to at least acknowledge they understand what is needing to be done in the future to get me to stay. Otherwise, my card will expire and I will leave again.

Will those of us who are American who ended up on a Euro server with the rest of our guild ever be able to transfer our Euro characters/legacy over to a US server? Hope of this is about the only thing that keeps my sub going. Everyone left the Euro server. I want to play on the US server now for better ping but I have a full account of characters some at war hero level so just starting over is not an option. I'd rather cancel my account and find something different to play than start over.

I missed this but check my signature for a complete and full featured suggestion that's been in the forums since the beginning and had a ton of support. It addresses multiple facets of pvp and how the game world can be used. Even if you only take a look for some ideas to blend with what you have planned I believe it would be worth your time for a peek. A discussion of Objective based world pvp..

QFT it's probably still Snipers. But really, every class in this game is OP in the right hands even Snipers.

Nice to know. I'll be passing this info along to my guild mates for sure.

When you can't form a valid argument against your opposition.. Just make **** up and toss around insults! Nicely played. You know the age old saying.. Screenshot or it didn't happen. Quotes can be manipulated screenshots are much harder. Let's just give you the benefit of the doubt and pretend I did do this.. It would have required me to read through 5 pages of "wall-o-text" posts to find it before you who supposedly knows what post this came from could even use the /quote feature? Riiiight.. Ok so let's pretend I did this. I'll let your imagination have it's moment. It still changes absolutely nothing in this debate as every attempt to make a point about a Tank-a-sins performance has be easily refuted by fact. The few posts here and there trying to claim that Tank-a-sins are OP have no ground to stand on and have been countered by multiple people beyond myself. Additionally, I have nothing to gain. My account runs out in 2 days. I will gain no benefit either way of the outcome of this debate. That means I am here simply sharing my experiences and will let the developers who call the shots determine which side is right or wrong. The patch notes say your side is wrong. /thread

I'm calling ********. Quote it? And I don't mean what you type by hand.

I know this. As I stated. I am lumping the two together because this is a "Assassin tanks vs Jugg & PT Tanks" thread not a "Assassins vs PT Tanks" thread. I'll go back and clarify if my choice of wording is confusing. {Edit} There I hope that clears up any future misunderstandings of the posts intent.

Patently false once again. You really should either respond to a whole post or not at all. Selective misquoting and responding makes you look foolish. I clearly stated I play all of these classes and that of the pack Assassins are in the middle, that means balanced. I have NO issues what so ever killing tankasins on any other class I play. If you do, you're doing it wrong. Sins have NO burst damage, limited survival tools with very short durations, long lockouts and require tons of procs to be used. Once again I will state, "The Dev's agree that Tankasins are fine" as evidenced by the patch notes. Why would I for any reason wish for any class I play to become broken? I play them all so I want them all to be equal. That is why I have the stance I do. If I could not beat tankasins on my alts I would believe you that my prowess on my tankasin was the status quo and that the class was in some fashion OP. This is not the case as I eat them alive on everything else. So this is called PBKAC or L2P take your pick. Anyway, I made a broad generalization about "the other tanks" because that is what this topic is about. It's not Assassin > PT.. this thread is attempting to make the claim that "Assassin>ALL other tanks"! So I am speaking specifically in these terms. You can try to twist the wording and misquote all day long. It doesn't change the fact that every last word you've wasted time typing in this thread is "FALSE". GG and please try again! {EDIT} And to burst your theory about wanting to be king of the hill.. My account expires on the 19th and I have no intentions of resubscribing. This has nothing to do with 1.2 patch notes except for one thing.. There's no mention of how they plan to add meaningful end game world pvp to SWTOR (Like the post in my signature suggests). The only reason I am posting in this thread at all is that I, unlike most posters here, actually have a lot of experience on both sides of the fence and am fighting the misinformation and lies as a public service to the rest of the players and possibly the Developers too who may browse this topic. I don't hate this game. I wish it had meaningful end game pvp because it really is one of the most balanced pvp games ever. Maybe in 6-12 months I'll come back if they add meaningful pvp to the game. The only thing I hate so far is the average competence of people who post in this forum and the gross moderation and horrible customer service that you find here.