I don't think we're on the same page here about many things . The regs comment was just an example of how fun things were when balanced lol IDK if you were playing the same game I was. I'm not going to debate you LMAO

Yes there is a VERY big difference Kendra Well actually we used to sync q pub vs imp and get 8 v 8 full guilds playing each other; but good ones and those were fun matches.

Well there were many, many servers. I played since launch for the full duration of Ranked 8v8s. We happened to have some of the best players and biggest server; FATMAN or the remnants of it, where the best players aka Seal Team Sith and others played. The matches that went on for 20 mins were on other servers and were usually hypergate or other wzs where they split the groups up into fours on each node so yes those may have lasted longer or the player quality wasn't as good. Why do you think in regs you can only q 4 players in a group? LOL I will spell it out: In the instance of 8 players being allowed to group the other team would die in 1-2 mins lmao

Well here, I'd have to disagree. The devs saw the metrics on TTK of actual full teams of 8 players, and concluded that it's not feasible. Also, I seen the same deal happen in SWGS and a few other PVP games but they never removed it. That's when the invention of organized pvp where u play your friends started because no one else could reach the skill cap lol

I agree but the skill cap for group ranked is very high 99% of players can't do it; that's most of the reason 8v8 ranked was removed. Entire teams where dead in about 1-2 mins or less.

IK I hear so many people say omg he/she is such a great healer in regs. Do u realize how ez it is LMAOOOOOOO?

I mean healing good was the norm not too long ago. I find it amusing how people think these players are godly somehow. I've known bad players in my old guilds who healed for very high amounts but I never felt I was being healed. The idea that a guard is actually needed is pretty ridiculous; I KNOW people don't want to hear this part lmao.

Yea, I can heal >13k hps , cc the other healer, and still not win but it's been like this for years, also playing dps toons; same deal. Unless you track wintraders, wintrade, or have a friends list full of bad players/bots who q and/or want to sit on a game for 8-10 hours, you're probably not going to get a good rating. Only other scenario would be being extremely lucky lol. It's a joke. I play ranked because it's harder to heal than regs; to heal regs is very easy anyone can really do it, nothing really special about high heals in regs. It's hard for me to really play hard to the best of my ability when something is very easy. I guess it's a defect of character. I'm bad at everything anyways so what does it matter lol

Lmao good for you! It is quite satisfying.

It's been a joke for years BUT I like the challenge better than regs, sometimes. ATM I like the tears and crying of the people who take it serious so yea I get my kicks out of others foolish priorities i.e. caring what people think about you on a video game and building your self image on what others think of you. IDK it's fun to watch ig; also, looking for attention and validation from people on a stupid game, extremely pathetic lol I'm not going of get bent out of shape about rating but I will play hard. I can get a good rating if I sit on the game all day and wait for the right people to be on, dodge win traders etc. But I only played a lot when I had an injury and had no life lol I dumped the game and the baggage when I was ready to do so.

That's exactly the point. I couldn't kite because I had to be close to an all melee fight. I had two melee on top of me lol IDK maybe I wasn't being healed or guarded. I was laughing too hard at how sensitive people are 😂 I never mentioned being interrupted; I was literally at 2/10 health having to heal myself. You're also implying that aoes and dots kill faster than direct burst damage which is just not true lol I was healing you in a group where you said "stack them so I can aoe and dot" . You know the one that we lost 👍 How fast can a pt kill you now. It's like 3.0 lol I don't think I need a lesson on dps. I have done top DPS on most classes for about 8 years in ranked and in regs but thanks. You can't cry over one game where you don't even know the player, their past, and think they can't DPS but apparently they can CRY lololololol You shouldn't be crying even if you win. Most Mercs would have not even survived in the situation that I was in👍 The team would have wiped tbh. They should be happy that I didn't die and thank me 😌 I think LMAO I'm not trying to prove I'm good. I don't need to impress anyone. This is a troll thread to show how sensitive people are even when they win and quick to judge. I had gold on one of my Mercs last season. I'm very bad. I know. But ya maybe I still need to learn to play ig 😂

It's a melee fight, healer tank and melee dps etc. I'm playing a merc. Thus, I need to kite. IDC if you are on a merc; you are not going to fair well with a mara and jugg on top of you. So basically I can't kite and stay on the intended target without being in melee range. The irony is I didn't die, and we won. Nothing is dying bc of fluff aoe bull with tanks and heals etc. and we went to the acid and lost one match of the three. Omg let's go and cry to Mommy. OMG " The tank did more dps than you" "Stop quing" Was the tank being obfuscated off cool down, pressured the entire match, stunned and taunted off cool down? NO they don't do that to tanks. Yes you can do high dps on a tank with dps gear/aoes when no one is dying and the numbers are fluffed. Meanwhile, I'm at 2/10 health trying to stay alive while the tank has no pressure, is allowed to wear dps gear and stroll around casually. Look at the bigger picture and not numbers especially when the person don't die. I took more damage than anyone. Burst classes do more dps when stuff actually dies because there's not enough up time for the slower TTK from aoe and dot classes. I would say to think more abstractly and wholistic, rather than concrete I literally was falling out of my chair loling. I mean I really must be bad. I've healed for 13-17k in ranked. Done 9-10k dps on multiple classes in ranked since launch or the equivalent for gear changes over the years, and not bull fluff aoe dot garbage where nothing dies. I guess that means you're bad. Ty for the lols

This is going off on a tangent. A big reason people don't like the Huttball/OPGs is because: THEY CONSTANTLY POP 80% of the MATCHES ARE HUTTBALL/OPG we have told the devs for YEARS now to make the pops less frequent they are not listening to the player base This has been told to the devs probably THOUSANDS of times. It's not hard to do they have done it. When a new warzone comes out, they decrease the frequency of the pops after enough people complain in a week or so.

This is going way too complex. Simply put this goes on and this is what some players do. That's it. How they police it is their job I'm reporting what goes on for the benefit of the people who play legit so they don't get garbage ranking. Not by just looking at the numbers. This is what a group of players do. I know this. I asked how they got the high rankings and a few people explained how. What else is there to say? If someone does a robbery and and it's explained to you what they did what else is there?

Go to the ranked leader board sort by server say Star Forge for example Sort by rating compare the number of vote received vs win especially above 1350 then look below that rating and see that and compare. I leave matches early my votes to wins ratio on all my toons is usually equal. U see some have 0 votes usually 1500 and above or at least 1350 and 11 or say 15 wins come on now I don't see that anywhere else on all the ranked boards and yes I think people are stupid enough to do that and think they won't get caught lol Yes of course in every single case it wouldn't be like this but I do know that this is how it's done and that it is in In fact being done so it is worth investigating those players to see what they're up to if the match was a 1 vs 4 .

1. Not when you know people in their inner circle that tell you this is what they are doing. 2. That's not really logical ranked players and most serious pvpers are ALWAYS looking at stats at the end of matches to see what damage was taken dps done etc by them and the other players as well. 3. There is a trend u don't see it anywhere else except players with high ranking everyone else does not have the discrepancy in votes to wins ratio.

This is how a majority of the cheating happens you can see it on top of the leaderboards it's very noticeable. How people looking for cheating in ranked are missing this don't see this is beyond me. 8 players q at 4-7 AM their time zone 3 either don't take the pop or leave the wz so it becomes a 1 vs 4 ranked wz and they let the 1 win for max ello. This is shown by the lack of votes they received in proportion to wins simply because they are the only one in the warzone and can't get votes ! They do this for the 1st 10-25 matches for max ello. For example a player with 11 wins and 0 votes and a 1400-1500 or more rating. They either leave it at a high rating or continue and you see a disproportional number of votes to wins so it's may look like this eventually 50 wins 35 votes so it's less noticeable. I know plenty of legit players who votes are proportional to wins. It's a shame that these players don't have a higher ranking because of this obsession with ranking that those cheating the system have; compelling them to go to these depths to gain a ranking. It seems easy to just look at the logs of what these players did and take action.

This is how a majority of the cheating happens you can see it on top of the leaderboards it's very noticeable. How people looking for cheating in ranked are missing this don't see this is beyond me. 8 players q at 4-7 AM their time zone 3 either don't take the pop or leave the wz so it becomes a 1 vs 4 ranked wz and they let the 1 win for max ello. This is shown by the lack of votes they received in proportion to wins simply because they are the only one in the warzone and can't get votes ! They do this for the 1st 10-25 matches for max ello. For example a player with 11 wins and 0 votes and a 1400-1500 or more rating. They either leave it at a high rating or continue and you see a disproportional number of votes to wins so it's may look like this eventually 50 wins 35 votes so it's less noticeable. I know plenty of legit players who votes are proportional to wins. It's a shame that these players don't have a higher ranking because of this obsession with ranking that those cheating the system have; compelling them to go to these depths to gain a ranking. It seems easy to just look at the logs of what these players did and take action.

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