I just saw the "High rated Ranked Arena/WZ" in the thread title, thinking he might be referring to "High rated Ranked Arena/WZ" guilds And hehe, no offense taken, I was just surprised that anyone would mention that particular guild (and no offense to them) as being a top PvP guild. Maybe they've just moderated themselves from doing that steamrolling when I've seen them! And I agree that PvP extends well beyond ranked, seeing theres hardly any teams queueing for ranked judging by streams from the server.