Oh right ... so your proof for snipers being viable is a grand total of 1 PvP meta that NOBODY plays where they have a pocket tank and heals and usually a 2nd sniper running the exact same spec so they don't get targeted first.. yeh good job. so powerful. Again the thread is entitled "MOST FACEROLL CLASS:" Faceroll is a class that doesn't need to be carried, is great in all metas and does amazing in its role. That's jugs, powertechs, assassins and sorcs. Period!

Why are mercs or snipers even being discussed in this thread. It's a thread about the most faceroll class. Mercs and snipers are both garbage. Snipers are presently the WORST overall class in the game. They required the most babysitting of any class. The only way they can do well is if they are miles away cherry picking targets which are otherwise occupied. Mercs are only "slightly" better in this regard. IO is one of the worst PvP specs in the entire game. It's rotation is heavily casted, more so now than pre 3.0. it has horrendous dot spread mechanics. It has a total of 3 rotational dots and 2 burst dots to lay on targets, 2 of the rotational dots are hard casted. This puts it at a severe disadvantage vs any class that can still purge. Those classes just so happen to be assassins and operatives which litter warzones. Arsenal fairs a little better but its still inferior compared to the majority of specs in the game.

Operatives are still the better healers. * Being able to purge dots every 20 seconds is a pretty big slap in the face to all dot spec DPS classes. That just happens to be the majority of specs in the game. * Hot's still tick while they are stunned.

Jugs, sins, powertechs, sorcs in that order.

I think you're a little bit confused. There is no 25% resist on reactive shield. It is a 25% flat damage reduction. The ability you are referring to is 30% defense to all attacks triggered off of sonic missile. It lasts for 6 seconds. Tanks do not have access to it. AP does. If you are witnessing someone in tank stance getting resists, it is a skank tanking AP Powertech and they've just used sonic missile.

The actual ability you are referring to is working as intended.

Lol what. You make a post stating the developers don't read the forums because of "butt hurt aka abuse" and then in your next breath call me a "delusional young one" Practice what you preach.

Try time and money constraints. It most certainly isn't because you think they are butt hurt over whiners lol.

The developers in charge of the latest batch of operations severely screwed up the range vs melee balance. That is the underlying disease and it has nothing to do with actual class balance. You do NOT buff classes to compensate for screwing up your raid design. The fact that they screwed up so bad is pretty telling. More so, they are completely disregarding player feedback when it contradicts with their interpretation of said meta data. This in itself is hilarious. Meta does not play swtor. Meta doesn't get pissed off and rage quit the game when their favorite class is getting reamed due to piss poor balance. Meta data is utterly meaningless without context. Context is derived from actually playing the *********** game! It just baffles me how these developers don't understand this ****. That's the whole reason that companies USED to employ "quality testers." I stress the word USED because companies don't even bother anymore. It apparently costs money. Quantity is the new god. Churn out a piece of **** product, butcher it and make a new product as fast as you can.

These devs just don't get it. They literally have no idea what they are doing. They don't play the game at all and because of that have absolutely no context for all the suggestions given to them.

yes /5char

It's live now. The 35% chaff on IO is as expected... doesn't do jack **** The 5 charges for arsenal is ridiculous in 1v1's as expected.

Not a bug.

Yes, their survivability is way too good now. The laughable thing is that with unstoppable, they will be even more retarded. Also test out IO's chaff for merc which makes no difference at all - as expected. Also tested out 5 charges of absorb for arsenal which makes a huge difference, especially vs stealth - as expected.

The bioware meta gods determined jugs lack survivability. More survivability is needed!!!!!

It only took them 4 months to realize that bolster is broken. Seriously, all they had to do was play a grand total of 1 mid bracket PvP game and look at peoples health bars. Where were their metric gods on Bolster? How did they not see that one? It's time they start playing the game or hiring actual skilled game testers to play it for them.

I can't tell if you are being serious or not. Raw data may not lie. Interpretation of raw data lies all the time. It is extremely easy to misinterpret or manipulate data to prove a theory which in reality is actually false.

The pecking order of WORST to best class is 1) Marauder using berserk instead of predation 2) Sniper 3) Merc 4) sorcs 5) Marauder using predation 6) operative 7) Jugs 8) Powertechs 9) Assassins

This blatant metric god worship has got to stop. It's producing a serious disconnect in your ability to balance the game. Hence why the classes which need nerfing are being buffed and the ones that require buffing are getting ignored or being nerfed. Stop looking at your metrics and start playing the game yourselves. Seriously....

^This. I am sick to death of that ****. I've lost so many *********** operative rolls, sniper rolles, force speeds and HTL due that rubberbanding ****. ****. Then there is the stupidity of being rooted through evasion which is a 200% dodge. How do you get rooted when the ability can't even hit you. What the hell?????

Time to remove that ravage root.

Most of the marauders tools are situational. There is no perfect way to use anything. For instance Camo - *Can be used as a gap closer *Can be used to interrupt hard casted or channeled attacks *Can be used as an escape and run or camo and sit on the same spot while your healer heals you up. *Can be used defensively to mitgate the bulk of the damage done by Thermal detonator, Short duration DOT burst or the operative delayed internal damage burst. Predation - It's not supposed to be spammed. It is supposed to be used wisely. In PvP it is far more beneficial than berserk. It buffs everyone on your team, increases survivability and gives you considerably more up time on targets. That translates directly into more damage. You only ever berserk when you know you can't be kited. ie. you have a pred up and your sitting at 30 stacks 10 seconds into it with a frenzy as backup on your bar. You are fighting a melee class, etc, etc.

Decent guide. I don't agree with just about everything Kaos posted in bold.

The main reasons 8v8 failed. * Facing the same teams every time due to lack of teams queuing * At least 7 months of bubble stun which turned the meta into a frustrating soup of stop and start gameplay ( This is why my guild stopped queuing up) * Several classes and specs being completely non viable.

People have short memories.