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Their response is the exact same that WoW's shadowlands team gave when covenants and conduits were met with scorn. "This is our vision, like it or leave." WoW is under 2 million subs. WoW had that to lose, Swtor doesn't. Even before 7.0 the fleets would have like 110 people on during peak times. lol, those are not good numbers.

lol and WoW is barely hanging in there. Swtor has been in a vegetative state for almost a decade but think it's wise to try to reinvent the wheel. I also find it sad that the first reply to a post in this thread is to the second poster in the thread and about Malgus. The room is flooding and you're looking for paper towels? Like, turn the water off, fix the class. Sniper energy regen is dead. Defensives are gone. Marauder still sucks. Jugg needs their tools back. Like the boss fight is a small percentage.

This change alone made me less enthusiastic to play my jugg.

I'm legitimately shocked to finally hear from the devs. Something I noticed most about the complainants about 7.0 were things like bugs and the length of the story, all while most the positive things were like, "oh the music in the new area is nice" or " It looks pretty and well done." But the thing about it is this, if the game play is good the graphics don't matter. Examples being 8 bit speed runners, Mario 64 runners. That alt-f4 game. The 8 bit platformer game that, if you fall you start over. (I forget the name of it right now) Right now, the game play is lackluster. For players that are starting now, sure whatever they don't know what they don't know. But for the rest of us that played all the recent content, played through 6.0 up until 7.0... the game is in a terrible state. literally every class feels bad to play. They are hollow shells of their former selves. The unneeded skill choice dilemma is absurd. The stealth nerfs or removals completely of tacticals is the icing. The horrible idea of implant "legendaries" that are just 3% damage increase or reduction. Really, you should just revert the gear to 6.0 standards if not, then you need to significantly improve the impants. Even when were spend the currency to upgrade the ilvl the bonus stays stagnant. It's poorly thought out and implemented. Something that swtor had done extremely well over the years that other games, including WoW, failed to do was to make every advanced class fun to play. Each time I would start a new class They would become my instant favorite. 7.0 is moving away from this trend. The high octane playstyle of the jugg/guardian was neutered. When from big block v8 to a hybrid. Assassin used to be a bursting machine. Snipers were turrets from hell, locking down any area within reach. Mercs were beasts in objection based pvp. Bioware devs said hold my beer and **** the bed. Then the gearing. pff, forget about it. Devs must have looked at shadowlands and thought, wow that's convoluted.... I can be more convoluted. Who would have thought that an expansion could be worse than shadowlands? I'm not even a fan of star wars. I only bought this all those years ago because the other players I pvp'd with in WoW wanted to check it out. So we all got those original collector's editions. Space wizards are cool and all but I'm not one of these die hard star wars fans. I specifically play because the classes and the pvp maps. Somehow swtor managed to have the most fun maps I've seen. Dude, huttball, best game within a game I've seen. That's because each class brought something to the table. Now that has been removed. That being said, swtor pve even roped me in, most fun I've had raiding was in swtor. Even questing is enjoyable. But the game play now is just killing it. 6.0 had me staying up all hours of the night 7.0 gave me back my solid sleep schedule.

no, you dont have to pay for it. some options you either level up say a species or just buy the race.

if you feel the need to stay in a losing warzone when you get nothing in return then thats all on you. Not everyone wants to waste 15 minutes for nothing. There is no need to put a deserter debuff in the game, especially with the new changes to warzones. If they added a debuff then pvp would for sure be dead.

Whoever is closest to the center gets the pass. Its kind of obvious. next time you pass or get passed to look at the graphics. If you cant see it maybe you need a new graphics card or need to up the settings.

ok that i understand...ill say my bad for not thinking about it in that sense

If you dont have tumult on your bars you are a bad assassin. Sure you can use it in pvp fine ill give you that and if thats all you do well then you are missing out. But I spike and tumult and its a one shot on even a strong mob. mine crits for 4.5k. Either you guys need better gear, need to go do dailies or do raid/flashpoint. Tumult is a sick ability not too mention the graphic of it. People that dont use lacerate are dumb too...however it doesnt interrupt, dont know where you got that idea from. Only ability you shouldnt use is crushing darkness if you arent madness. But you should always have all your abilities out on the bar. How are you gonna fully use your tools of your class if they arent out. Its like a warlock not having all the curses out cause he uses curse of agony mainly. Its fail.

I have an assassin in full bm gear and full rakata In pvp with the 12.whatever% the expertise gives you, not the wz or adrenal buff, I can crit 3 times for 6k so long as surge charge is stacked before i pop out. In pve I crit for 5.5k. Not much of a difference but it takes the ramp up time and the use of recklessness and a trinket. Even with those number said, the assassin deception spec needs a buff. Seeing that its supposed to be a burst spec it doesnt have enough when compared to teh sister stealthy class of op/smuggler. sure 6x3 seems like a lot but when everyone is in bm gear, like on my server, they all have a 12% almost 13% damage reduction base with expertise and then the armor rating. So what was 18k is now about 10k burst. If going against a tank you have to deal with 22-24k and iff its a jugg ive seen some blow cd's and get up top 35k hp...good luck bursting that down. The only class you manhandle is the sniper and with the new buff to its damage reduction good luck with that. Ops out dps you in a 1v1, juggs are beefcakes and marauders hide behind undying rage or they would be no sweat. heals...they are a hit or miss situation due to the operator behind the toon. Madness however is a bit better as a constant damage spec but obviously isnt a burst spec. Its nice for warrior/knight classes cause of creeping terror, but Im more of a burst class guy my self. I played a lock for years in WoW and i dont wanna play a dot class anymore unless its the warlock. Basically the way i look at it is they need to buff the damage output for deception.

PvP is a joke in this game ever since 1.1.5. The fact that they made it easy for fresh 50's to get decked out in PvP gear is the dumbest thing they could have done. I saw a 50 in greens and a few orange items with 44 mods in them and he had the war hero title. Not a single piece of centurion gear at the least equipped. Now think of all the people that had legit bm gear full sets or even half sets before they handed out welfare gear. Champ gear is nothing in that aspect. If things like this keep happening, swtor will die faster than rift did.

now see that makes sense, multiple annoying things at once...but i skimmed the tos and nothing jumped out at me...although i only skimmed so i may have missed it.

I'd Like to hear from a Developer or GM on this if possible...There has been a raging debate about spoilers being a ban worthy offense. A few people say they know a guy that was banned... I personally think that is bs and never happened but I'm curious now. I would hope it isn't. I would imagine that to get banned you would have to do something offensive and sorry but "spoiling" the ending to something people are going to find out one way or the other isn't offensive...It may be annoying but oh well not offensive. If one of the almighty moderators could respond that would rock but it may not happen.