it really boils down to a dps race you really cant forget that PT has 30m that is comparable to lighting and if a pyro can get you in to 10m for a few gcds he is prolly going to win even if you escape back to 20ish m range

Just stop actively playing if you are against the uber geared premade....sit on a node and when it become no fun for everyone they might address it.

Seems at the current state of this game if all gear and such be equal, winnig is just a how many melee on the team...ergo you can have a team of just melee and heals, and pretty much stomp face against a ranged and heals team all day, everyday.... Seems the devs think that range is SO powerful that they need to equalize it by giving melee far more damage and damage mitigation than any ranged class, but that does not seem to be enough so they give melee classes gap closers to neutralize the thing they justified the dmg and mitigation in the first place. I know some of you wont agree but you are probably the premade I see most the time with 3 melee and a heal.

its horrible marketing as the demographics are very different in an subscription MMO than a console gamer.

So your argument is only your own personal experience on your server is proof and another posters experience is not proof? I have heard a lot of solipsism on this forum but this one might be the best of the lot.

slingers/snipers have a counter its called healers ....snipers/slingers have very poor energy management and a good heals will shut a slinger down by running him out of energy and it come back very slow.

They really need to fix the resolve system do away with crafted stuns and up the bubble stun to 5 sec but make it only work for caster, and for Christ sake buff sorc/conc survivability. really would go a long way in "funning up" wz again.

I think around 1700 you start to get VERY little crit and less than have dmg bonus you would from a overkill, just seems that way to me...I get to 1700 with consumable then just overkill( or crit if still low)

you forgot leaving the only heals to guard a node by their-self

SHD/SIN probably the best out of the box and just keeps getting better ...with nice gear you can own.

other than huttball where it is possible to win without a healer when facing a team with a healer it is the single most important player on the team. Most pugs get owned because lack of heals vs. heals (other things being close to equivalent)..and on the imp side on my server its rampant.

When playing other MMOs with areas you notice one thing .....that some classes can not compete in an arena environment no matter the combination and the class imbalance is even obvious to the most complicit observer. even a decent class like sniper/slinger would not fair well in 2v2 or 3v3 and some classes in this game would be disastrous...just a thought .

I would say OPR/SCR dont do that hot in low levels.

yeah if people would just learn to play their class then they would never get stunned or be knocked off a platform when running the ball in huttball ....... silly really all those respec that happen in huttball at the beginning, those people just do it for variety sake I am sure.

So you read my OP and somehow divine I am a "bubbler", yes I use a bubble as all sorcs do but it does not have a stun component if that is what you're asking.

I don't mind because you are misrepresenting my earlier post, most probably from lack of comprehension of the nuance in the criticism.

That why your probably just a guy in the military if you cant tell a real scientists from a guys posting on a forum.

really the only time its decent to quit is at the start or after you die, should not screw the others if possible.

well don't you strain that vapid black hole god gave you instead a head, the normal people will take the time to read it as a response and understand it.

Sometime a person quits and a heals or better geared toon shows up in his/her place and turns the tides so quitting is just a roll of the dice ..I don't mind it.

Right because bubble stunning cant equalize and otherwise one sided game....yeah it might be ridiculous at times but its in no way op ...only in certain circumstances is it.

Didn't you say there is NO gear gap which unmistakeably implies no difference in gear and/or all players have the same gear. not really a problem for me personally but it is a problem in pugs for even geared players if half their team gets killed in two seconds. Because I have be playing since beta and most toons had wh gear before ewh and coms stored, a 7 month protracted grind is not a short time period by any means, so it is nether sizzle chest, but I do also have a almost wh geared toon and its no fun to play either but its a merc and well nuff said there.

It is a forum sugar muffins, not an academic thesis.

Seemed to work in WOW with cap and defend games. though the combat system is a great deal different in wow as there is not really a fixed crit damage multiplier so a big 15k crit could get very lucky roll and be doubled but by anyone.

yeah and if you pay a Chinese fellow a hundo, you don't need to grind it at all.