wrong, wrong and wrong crits won't be "much much larger". Are you stupid? (legitimate question) Ticks are now getting 36% higher dmg due to bug, after patch they'll get 15%. Instead you'll get higher surge. High crit of smaller base dmg will NOT be higher than lesser crit of higher base damage. You can't do basic math functions at least use windows calculator. There WON'T be a dps increase. Stop filling everyone's head with your nonsense!

You DONT have to listen to me dumbarse, you CAN however use excel if you have basic maths (you do know excel, right?) Where are the "tons of metrics that BW devs have" as you mention? I don't have them, I have my excel sheet and basic formulas anyone with half a brain can do in 5 mins. How am I acting as know-it-all? What arrogance? Stop being a lazy arse and open up excel, put a number, multiply by surge rating (before and after). Are you really this stupid???

If 50% of playerbase is Sage/Sorc, then it's no surprise they'll have a stronger volume on forums. Mara/Sent top dps in hutball? This must be best effort at trolling. Constantly leaping back? Are you serious? You know force charge has a CD right? Plus, the AOE knockback of Sage/Sorc can root you down below the bridge with DoTs on you while you wait for your force leap CD to get back, oh and lucky if u find the attacker on line of sight to leap to after your CD. Mara/Sent are at the bottom of the food chain in hutball, anyone claiming otherwise is a huge troll.

The more I read your post the more I learned you don't know ANYTHING about other classes. When I play other classes I don't attack a mara for 6 seconds when I see his CoP, I just CC him. Saber Ward, what was the cooldown on it again? WHY mention cd on vanish? The skill puts you out of combat, lets you get out of fight alive when 5 guys are on you. Can you say the same for undying rage? NO, you're dead after 4 seconds! "What more could you need?"?? You do realize operatives also wear same armor, they do better burst, have multiple stuns and stealth. Plus they get ranged attacks and AOE. Compare those to what Marauder has. Oh wait, I don't think you ever played an Operative either. You can play better all you want while I destroy your arse in every single WZ with my (anything other than Mara) char, cos I know Mara's all weaknesses. Play better my arse

If you played any other class at all, at least at lvl 50, it's MUCH easier to get medals than Marauder. Healers heal for medals when they idle next to turret while getting defender medals. Sorcs and Jugs get guard medals. The 5k in single heal medal will be history next patch (for marauders I mean). You generally hit 10 medals? what server you guys on seriously?? games end in less than 7-8 mins in every WZ I play with almost nobody reaching even 25 kills

this post is full of it on so many levels.. insane AoE? With 4m range? insane? lol Top 3 for medals? Other classes shield each other or heal themselves at spawn points for medals while you watch them get medals. Top 3 in medals? lol half centurion half champ gear and you're in the top 2 dps? lol what server u on?

you seriously expect people to believe you when you're making up these numbers out of your arse? I do PVP everyday and almost everyone is champion/BM geared on my server. Last night one WZ I checked I did the highest dmg in single hit (3410 Annihilation, mouse over char names in WZ score table) and closest was a powertech with 3.2k and rest sorcs in 2.6-2.7k, tho in overall dmg I wasn't even in top 5. I am full champion geared with some rakata pieces. You simply CAN NOT do 7-8k instant strike dmg versus PVP geared people. Please, next time you post these ridiculous numbers, post a screenshot with WZ score and mouse over your char, it shows the biggest dmg hit. Where do you even get that 7-8k when you don't even have a combat log? 7-8k insta dmg my arse!

how surprising to see the subject derailed by forum celebrity wannabes posting their scores and screenshots (NOT) back on the subject, if anyone places the numbers on excel you'll see this is roughly a 7-8% nerf in bleed dmg overall. Patch note saying "dps will increase" is a blatant lie.

Marauders are squishy, period. Even light armor wearers have some shield or buff to +150% armor and get way more dmg mitigation. Some have vanish, CC to control the fight. Some just have heavy armor with defensive stances. We have a 4 sec immunity on a long cooldown and a 20% dmg mitigation that lasts 6 seconds. On damage mitigation alone, Marauders are at the bottom. Simple as that.

this guy sounds like you need a university degree on "How to Play a Marauder", to play a Marauder lol translation: "Those of us who had the time to really powerlevel this class since early access and took advantage of early lvl50 vs low levl PvP WZs got rewarded, and those that are casuals, who only have a few hours to play suffer because the system has changed and now they have to play in 50s bracket vs us that are BM geared. " what a load of 1337 horse cr*p

this also gotta mention that the more hp you have the more you're gonna heal in hp, although the percentage is fixed. So PVE gear suits annihilation better as it tends to give little more endurance than pvp set. with 20k hp you'll heal 600hp per second for with berserk up. Power or surge doesn't help this amount. The only way to increase heals is to get more heals through bleed crits which is by increasing your crit chance. So endurance and crit chance are you primary stats for staying alive longer, if that's what you're looking for.

5char

Troll.....

It's not the gear, it's Expertise You do less dmg to them (geared ones), they do more dmg to you Expertise is a stupid stat and needs to go.

Hi, Level 50 Marauder here with Op, Sorc and Merc alts. If you have questions, ask me and I will answer, don't listen to OP. Marauder is broken. Your unconstructive posts will be deleted. Shoot

and you just made his point more valid

The 2nd jump you mention for Marauders is on Rage tree (Obliterate), despite being shorter range than 30m it can be used at 0m unlike force charge. Juggernauts can also get ıt from Rage tree. Obliterate does some very nıce damage too. Juggernauts also get force push.

I think inquisitors should be nerfed discuss

Are you kidding?

You mean regen energy with Patient Studies from Medic tree? But that's only 2 energy per tic (and that's IF it crits), and it ticks for 3 seconds, what am I missing? Are we supposed to spend 2 points on Patient Studies to get 6 energy over 3 seconds (that's IF you have 100% crit chance)?

What's up with this skill? 3 second cast and doesn't seem to scale with my level much, heals far less than single heals for me. Will it be viable at all at lvl 50?

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it appears you don't actually use the said broken abilities at all smash spam much?

Intelligence is dripping in your drools

You must be fightin really nub Ops. With 600 expertise I crap on Maras. Right when you get up from my hidden strike I stun you again with debilitate. Your abilities won't activate as you break the stun, as I get behind you by taking two steps thru you and backstab, but I have to infront of you for you to hit me. I crap on you.