Very good post. I 100% agree.

Are you really that bad that you need to be carried by your team? Afraid of fair games? Voice chat is a huge advanatge and if you say the groups are only talking trash I say that you are intentionally lying to make it look harmless. I have yet to meet a real premade that does not use voicechat. They will call incommigs, call target switches, tell teammates when to interruppt or CC the healer. You want an unfair game in your favor if you queue as a group. It simply does not matter if 4 players in your team are undergeared or bad as long as there are also bad players on the other team. You try to stack the odds in your favor that is the only reason to do "random premades" as you say. If you have 8 fully gearead good players and 8 bad players in the queue but 4 of the good players are in your premade you will end with 6 good and 2 bad palyers against 2 good and 6 bad players? Are those the odds you need to win? You say that the queues are to empty to support a real single player queue -> did the idea that the groups and the unbalanced matches might be the reason why the queues are so empty ever cross you mind? If am PVPing in this game since day one, have all advanced classes at least in one faction on 65 and do pvp with all of them. I stopped grouping in PVP for several reason: The main reason was that the matches were simply boring if we queued with a full group we won at least 19 out of 20 matches and in most cases those matches were totally onesided. The cross faction BG without groups like it was in the last week was the most fun I had in a long time because the battlegrounds were fair and most matches at least interesting. Personal skill did matter and a single player could decide a match. If you need your group with healer and tank to win it might be you that needs to improve. Cross faction single player only queue with player randomisation to make sincing useless is the way to go for fun and interesting matches.

Yeah right you have a sorceror but you obviously don`t know the skills. Noone really playing a sorc would have made the mistakes you did... I count 5 errors in your list.

Please list all 10 defensive ways of healers not including bubble and knockback... or are you just making stuff up?

So you are obviously trolling and selectively reading only what fits you best ...way to go. First post on page 5 I gave you my name and Server. What about actually reading before posting false accusation ... well you will probably just ignore this fact and come up with some "probable" conclusion of how sell out my guild mates because my definition of friendship differs from yours.

Can you give me any logical reason why the fact that I do not consider some people with the same tag over the head of a virtual toon as my friends makes you come to this conclusion? Friendship is way more then playing the same game at the same time. So ginving me the name a virtual toon on an internet server makes you what excatly? There is no more internet veil now? So I gave you my name and the chance to look me up and see that I told the truth and instead of doing this you call me a borderline psychopathic liar. Probably much easier then to actually say something with regards to content of my post.

The sad part is that you probably actually believe that those people are your friends and that sitting in front a PC is in any way social. You are having fun with your friends by: 1) Faceroll pugs 2) Get gear 3) Show off our enormous e-peen 4) Do silly thing to said pugs Talking about E-Peen and the fact that you do not believe me: Perhaps I am simply old enough and my real peen is long enough that I do not need to have a signature bragging about my online achivements. Just to prove you wrong: Name is Thanos on "The Jedi Tower" euro server. I am online almost every night. Feel free to come by and inspect me and talk to me online.

Where did I say this?

I am one of those 65+ players...

What has playing games with fair odds to do with getting everything on a silver tablet? You still need hundereds of games to make BM and then a few more weeks to get the full set. Noone is talking about handing out anything to the players just about making the game as enjoyable as possible to keep the people playing.

In a cases like this it might actually be better to solo for the first 2 weeks till you have the gear to compete. A matchmiaking system that also takes the gear into account would be nice but until we have merged servers for PvP this kind of thing will not work because of the queue times. After all, it is something different if you group up and know you will fight other groups. At least you have the the option to solo queue and not meet premades Right now you solo queue and do not have the option to avoid premades.

You compare top football teams to PUGs? As soon as there is a ranked system some groups will be better then other and there might even be a few groups dominating like the mentioned teams. Even in football there is a contest otherwise the same team would win the champions leauge each year. What makes you think he is sub-medicore? Are you afraid of having a real competition and not being able to farm kindergarden teams any more? Does your ego really need those easy wins? If PvP was your big "hat" you would actually promote premades vs premades and not this lopsided pickup group stomping.

Bayern is not even on place one of the bundeliga right now so there seems to be some competition. In pug vs. premade there is none.

Of course there are players that are better then others and for me this is even more reason to evenly ditribute those players. You can show your superior skills in premades as soon as there are ranked warzones, but right now it is simply unfair to form groups of superior players just to stomp pugs. If you do not care about fairness it is a different story but will hurt the game in the long run.

I say that premade vs. pug is unfair and that it should be made sure that premades only play premades. I do know that everyone could form a group and then play premade vs. premade but you know as well as I do that this will not happen. There are to many players that just do a few games a week that simply do not want to be forced to group up. Most people that say premade vs. pug is fine just want to keep the option to farm pugs for easy wins. It is far more challenging to have an impact on the outcome of match just by yourself then to win by default just because you are better organized and equipped then your oponent. Anyone I know that wants challenging and fun games is against pug vs. premade for a reason. The people that want pug vs. premade to stay are mostly the scrubs that know they will loose against real premades and just want to farm pugs.

Some of us want to win the 3 warzones as fast as possible and this means we want to win as often as possible in as little time as possible. If I want to do WZ after that (for fun) I go solo und pug because it is boring in a premade. Most premades to NOT want competitive games, otherwise they would not play as a premade in this environment. Most premades that play right now just want to farm valor as fast as possible some actuality have fun in humiliaing and farming the pugs in their spawn zone. There is zero reason to do premades if you want competitive games right now.

Of course you also want the marauder to loose his devensive cooldowns and the abilty to vanish bacause you want balance...right?

I have been seeing a lot of hate for premades recently and I actually do understand the problem. I have been doing premades myself since the days of DAOC and actually liked to be able to beat 40 players with our 8 man group in open field combat. In this environment premades were needed to fight the zergs because running solo simply was not an option for most classes, so you could either zerg or build a premades and I never liked the zerg mentality. Later in WOW those premades changed. There were no longer fights against larger groups but it changed to farming lesser organized and mostly poorer equipped players. There was no skill involved and the graveyard farming became boring very quickly. At least for the players that actually liked PvP. Anyone who liked a to have a challenge stopped doing premades and did Arena to get some kind of challenge. Matchmaking was introduced with a reason because a large part of the player base just wanted to do BGs for fun without being dependent on forming a group just to do a few BGs. Now we are here in SWTOR and have the same problem again. The argument of the pro premade group is: You can always build a group yourself, make “friends”, this is an MMO… What they ignore is the fact that bioware wants to keep the masses playing and the masses do not like to be forced in any kind of group. All premade players that say those fights are in any way fair or balanced are either incredibly bad or just lying. I have been running in a premade for a while (we made BM pre Ilum) and we have yet to loose a single game of hutball against a non premade group. This is plain an simple boring for us and very frustrating for the groups we play. We still do it to get the 3 wins we need each day, but I actually feel bad for the groups we play. Just to use a real life example: I have been playing soccer for more then 20 years now and I am playing in a regular team and we play other regular teams once each week. There is a league and those games are more or less fair. There is also a soccer field nearby that we use to play for fun once or twice a week. Often there are quite a few players from my regular team and some hobby players and guess what we do not do: We do not play with our regular team against those hobby players because it would be incredibly unfair. We mix the teams to get interesting and fun games as often as possible. Premades in MMO are in most cases greedy and want to farm and win as often as possible ignoring the fact that those games are incredibly boring and frustrating for the loosing side. Just to keep the “average” player playing, we need a matchmaking system that separates the premades from the pugs and even better: Matches the gear levels of the players so not one group has 5 BM and the other 6 fresh level 50 (at least when playing the same faction).

Normalerweise ist es auch als Heiler ohne Probleme möglich auf die 75k dmg, 2,5 crit und 10 bzw. 25 kills zu kommen. Ich bin immer min. 23 Punkte als heal gespecced und mache im BG normal so 150+k dmg, 200+k heal. Oft ist es sinnvoller einen Gegner schnell zu töten und danach zu heilen als immer alle auf 100% zu halten und wegen respawn nichts getappt zu kriegen. Wenn du nicht in ner Premade unterwegs bist, ist ne heal hybrid spec fast immer sinnvoller als full heal. Ich habe schon erlebt, dass Voidstar spiele verloren gingen, weil zuviel geheilt wurde und einfach keine Bomben gelegt werden konnten, weil der respawn immer vorher da war. Probiere einfach mal ne hybrid spec aus und dein medallien Problem sollte sich von alleine lösen.

Hmm also ist schatten + schatten schlimmer als schatten + schmuggler? Wenn ihr Angst vor dem opener habt, werdet ihr das so nicht verhindern.

Warum die Verbote von PvE gear und doppelten klassen? Das frozen water verbot verstehe ich ja noch, weil es schatten nen zu großen Vorteil gibt. Für mich sieht das danach aus, dass ihr selber Hybrid-Tank + Heiler teams mit Rakata stims in vollen PvP gear habt und sicherstellen wollt, dass diese auch gewinnen. In BGs nutz auch fast jeder Merc 2 PvE Teile, warum wollt ihr hier sowas beschneiden? Mein Tip: Merc healer mit hybrid Powertech gewinnt.

Trolling and being lazy ... do it yourself.

Wrong: There were plenty of battlemasters before the Ilum changes. Wrong: They saidthey will lower the gap. Nothing abour a gear nerf (everyone would just use PvE gear then) Wrong: They never said anything about a rollback or ban just that they will monitor the valor gains and take action as needed. I still have to see any screenshots of those players that made rang 100 in a few hours (like so many people claimed)... guess there weren´t any and no action was needed. So all of your "facts" are false... get them straight and then come back.

Every time a player demands a "fair nerf" he should be forced to play the nerfed class with the nerf in efect and then to duel any other player who wants to: The winner gets 100$ from the looser. If the nerf was fair this should not be a problem. If not they loose so much money that they will have other problems then demanding "fair" nerfs. ...seriously CAN YOU PROFE that this is a fair nerf? If you can I want to see this proof if you can not... well I guess it is not fair after all so why do you post lies?

Care to also quote the players that opened 40 bags in a row in the old system and 0 items or only those that were extremly lucky with the number of drops and had nearly no dublicates according to themselves?