Sigh. Learn to read. The person I quoted was talking about being in the 20's

1) Not really, actually. I do my class quests and I PvP, and I have my valor at the same rank as my lvl. Also, technically someone who has the inclination would still be able to gear up faster by straight lvling to 50, as you can still use champ gear with 0 valor rank and you have the weeklies and dailies to get additional bags. So no. 2) PvE and PvP are completely separate things.

In general, true, but guardians/sents/sw/mara's would like a word with you.

The problem is that this has been a known problem SINCE RELEASE. Come on. That's ridiculous.

In my case I just defined being afraid meaning that you would avoid it. And I'm in the same boat with you - I'll deal with it. I've dealt with a much bigger gap before (lvling rr1-90+ in WAR after they released rr100 crap) before. But dealing with it doesn't mean that I can't try to get a better system in place.

So having no life and being able to spend 10 hours a day in front of a computer in your mom's basement is now a skill?

It has nothing to do with being afraid. What it has to do is the system being stupid, and those who have already abused it having a vested interest in keeping their advantages. Like I already said, I got my PvP gear. I had no reason to reroll (besides the fact that I tired of being on the zerging side). But I did, and I won't be constantly doing 10-49 PvP.

Did you miss the part where I had full BM already? But keep talking out of your ***, buddy. Meanwhile, keep telling yourself you have mad skillz picking up all those armaments with 50 other imperials around you. **** got boring, which was why I rerolled. Am I going to make another alt when I hit 50? No. Because stomping baddies like you when I inevitably do get geared up will make me laugh. That being said, I find no joy in stomping people who have 10k less health than me, do less damage to me and to whom I do 20% more damage.

You're right. I rerolled from having full PvP gear on the zerging side to play the underpopulated side because I'm a baddie. I think it's more accurate to say that people defending this are the zerging side carebears who just want easy mode.

Just another side note....not facing as daunting a gear gap *might* help server population too. I know the biggest reason I didn't want to reroll (I ended up doing it anyways) was because I didn't feel like grinding out all my champ/bm gear again.

So I just blew my load.... what now? Spam SS and Slash? (j/c...I don't quite understand what I do with the ~50 second downtime)

Funny thing is, this has only been going on for only, oh, SINCE RELEASE. Failthic strikes again.

Is everything they took out from beta an acceptable answer?

so.......... 4 guardians could faceroll an infinite number of people? NERF. OP. OPS COULD NEVER DO THAT.

rofl complaining about sweep now? herp derp, I can hit you for 5k once every minute.

You know what's funny? Wins counting for the daily is absolutely fine for the sub-50 quest. Rofl.

It's a problem when your 10-49 bracket is regarded by many people as much better than your 50 bracket. Is there progression in the 10-49 bracket? Yes. Is it relatively (not really...but moreso than the 50 bracket) well balanced? I guess so. But once again, I think gear (aka time spent) SHOULD give an advantage.....just not as large as an advantage. 10% more health (or something like that) would be a fairly large advantage in PvP without being game breaking. It becomes game breaking when you have almost double the health, while also dealing double the damage and getting double the healing, etc.

I just wonder if you guys who're defending SWToR's PvP (and I guess WoW, etc)....you basically think that gear should be the end all determinant in who wins a fight, basically, correct? I personally think that gear plays too large a role (NOTE: I am not saying gear *shouldn't* give an advantage, just that the advantage is too large).

SC2 in Korea would like a word with you

If gear was as easy to get now as it was back in the beginning, your point may have held some validity.

I don't see why not. Not all of us can be troopers and have all our companions use the same gear

With no progression.....

Why can't PvP and PvE give the same gear? Obviously some tweaking on drop rates / bags would be needed. In any case, this isn't even relevant to what I think gear should be. I think (good) PvP should be at least 80% based on skill. For instance, the difference between BM and Champ gear isn't *so* large that it cannot be overcome by a good player. Does it reward more time and effort? Absolutely. But is it the be all and end all determinant of a fight? No. edit: or see above statement. You could do something where, for instance, gear bonuses/stats for PvE lend themselves to more sustained dps, while for PvP stats/bonuses are more about burst damage.

This is true. Even WoW was removed from the pro-gamer events.

You could also interpret it as asking for gear to not be the biggest determinant in who wins a fight.