Dude i HATE that Operative But your post made me laugh Ill take your suggestions and try to work on it! thank you

I haven't played very intensely but i thought the buff was suppose to make it so at everyone is eligable in wz? Of course 50 have an edge with abilities but If what you are saying is true (which it seems to be), That is absolutely horrible..... No PvP for everyone under 50 caus they stand no chance...... It seems so completely broken and spiteful to everyone whos not a nerd that it makes me cry

Hello! This is the typical wz for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAcrqfzY4c Im lvl 36 and i just feel that i suck i know i should prehaps respecc so u get wrath and chainlighting combo but for the moment its abit expensive. Any feedback on why i suck and how i can improve would be most helpful. Thanks.

it's because when u enter battle you gain the abilitie to deflect blaster bolts. this class is ment to be able to do that every time they enter combat. So even if it dosn't make sence to draw the lightsaber to shoot lightning it makes less sence to deflect bolts without sabers. (even though vader can do it but that guys op)

Hello there fellow! Well LvLing is kinda wierd in this magnificant game and What build/specc you should go depends on how u intend to lvl. First of i'd like to recommend the space combat quests u get in your ship. By doing them i went from 17-19 and a half in like 20 min So that said when lvling space combat is worth it xp wise even though its not that much fun. After that both War zones and instances is pretty decent xp. At some lvls the instances are absolute gold lvling wise ! and for these u can pretty much go either way but id peronally recomend u go healer if u just wanna find groups easily. Otherwise at kinda low lvl id say madness tree is the way to go as dps If you wanna lvl by power questing and solo play thing become more difficult. Up to lvl 30 your fine going as dps (madness recomended). Whirlwind upgrade is absolute gold (both PvP and PvE wise) Id say just go up madness tree. From 30+ the solo PvE becomes kinda difficult i must say and id recommend spending 13 points in corruption and just kill everything nice and easy. Here are the trees im going for and i change alittle from time to time wich this game don't support at all so if u find a build u like stick with it! http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201Zrs0MdZcrfRsMkMc.1 For Dps! Start with madness til you get enough point to do 13 lightning 16 madness http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201GorRZZcrfRsMkMc.1 healing hybrid, start out with healing tree after lvl 30 and then go up the madness. this makes PvE alot easier and it stands good in PvP also Hope this is any help to you Good luck have fun

DUDE !!! you must be joking.. "they can do nothing else" ?!?!?! THEY HAVE THE BEST HEALING TREE OF ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is noithing to you?!?! a operative 21 healer rest concealment is imortal healer with uber duber super burst... get your head out of your *** and smell some fresh air.

OMG PEOPLE! Are you all for real?! NO CLASS IS OP! this game is insanely balanced! (Brackets is not) let me say it one more time.. NO CLASS IS OP! sins and merc is prehaps a little worse then the rest but just by alittle!! BRACKETS are the one causing all this upset! Id love to see 3 brackets but id sell for 2 ! just get the 50 away. Sorcs aren't op...... Powertech - marauder - operatives - snipers are all EASILY att the exact same lvl !!!!!! SORCS GET ALL THEIR SPELLS ATT LOW LVL THATS WHY THEY SEEM OP! (and they are overplayed so you dont notice the others) GET TO LVL 50 AND DUELL ALL OTHER SPECCS AND CLASSES WITH FRIENDS YOU KNOW!!!!!! This game is so balanced i wanna piss on all your forheads! The fact that you dont see this has EVERYTHING TO DO WITH GEAR!!! the system of gear makes everyclass op! the difference in gear is absolute insane and THE ONLY REASON !!! (unless you are just very very bad which obviously is the probable reason since your here and wasn't smart enough the actually try out every aspect to find the truth) PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT NERF A SINGLE CLASS !!!!!!!!! just give sins and merc a slight buff!

really? .... The problem is that respecc is needed to figure out what specc u want to use!! i mean i play sorc and i have atleast 10 builds that i wanna try out to see how they feel and what will suit me best! one cant possibly know what specc will suit them best unless they try out some! and u only get 5 until the cost is 50k? :O if i wanna try out 10 different just to know how much i like them so i can deside im gonna have to pay like 300k ?! thats insane! Ofcourse its bad that you can respecc due to situation but the solution is not high prize !!! it should be a LOw prize and have like a 4 day cd or something!

that seems kinda nice! abit much id say though... dont get to greedy! remember u can dot endless dudes! imagine having 6 affliction on going and a 35% critt chance... that'll be like 1000 hp each second! lol but buff it prehaps to 2% or 2.5%

Well in my humble opinion the game is very balanced. Sorc is a good class to choose since they get bout all abilites at lvl 25 (xept for talent points). but a powertech/sin/sniper/operative are easily on equal grounds in PvP 1on1. The one that will win 1on1 PvP is most likely a Operative with a medic hybrid. their heals are better than our by far. surgical probe spammable and instant? and we get channeled that is super interuptable! go for operative! that seems mucho hard and if u play good youll demolish everyone!

Oh and BTW the way to shut down a sorc is to lock out force lighting and interupt dark infusion.

Hello there fellows! I'm gonna break this down for you all. Sorc/sage are op as HELL because they get ALL their good dps abilites at LOW LVL, they are OVER PLAYED. THIS is the problem!!! at lvl 25 we have all our great abilites!! grantit we dont have all the talent points but neither does any other class. Stop complaining on the sorcs! I play Operative-Assasin-Sorcerer-Powertech! Yes in beginning of game the sorcerers are sooo many and get all abilites but at a higher lvl when every class get all abilites then the score evens out and the sorcerer is no longer op at all!!! Neither is the Operative or snipers, they just consist the best burst wich becomes op with the damn loss of brackets!!!!! All this OP talk is total BS cause none of you've bothered taking into consideration thay it has to do with Gear/number of abilities at early lvl/lack of brackets!! I play high lvl at good PvP legion av we actually had a duell tournament with all classes and ALOT of different creative builds and the one that took the trophy was a opoerative medic/lethality hybrid! Please realise that its the insane lack of having the sorcerers spells spread out over lvls that is the problem here! stop the complaining and spam lvl for a while and youll realize how wonderfully balanced this game really is! Hugs and kisses

Aight SERIOUSLY what is up with this? U create a group and queue up for some pvp action, you all join and play and then leave and suddenly your group doesn't exist? and your all queued up separetly if we click the re-queue thing. ?! Is there any way to stay in group when left PvP match and stay in queue as a group?? please share if u know something this is sooooo annoying and does not make any sence!

Correct, operatives should not be nerfed and anyone who hasent played atleast 10+ bgs with only lvl 50s should get to give their opinion. Operatives are the class who benefits most as a high lvl in bg with no brackets. they will seem op! I'm a lvl 50 sorc and NO operative can kill be before my resolve bar is full and cc has worn off and its my turn. overload with root and force speed to 35m range and you have basically won. when they use cds u cc and heal yourself. An Operative with higher gear than me cant kill me at lvl 50 and i have the weakest armor! DO NOT CALL FOR NERF YET! CALL FOR BRACKETS. WAIT TIL LVL 50 THEN GIVE YOUR OPINION, BEFORE THAT YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING ! Imbalance and op comes from no brackets and gear. Its a shame that gear has an influence on PvP. everyone should have equal stats and equal amount of spells.

I was thinkin of just he builds your discussing. but i just can bring myself to loose instant whirlwind! In Pre made i run as a "half" healer At like alderan i found myself defending or attacking a point with 1 friend and get into like 2 on 2 or 3on 2 and thats when instant whirlwind truly shows its strenght!! just knock down a dude and whirlwind him and go at the other dude! i use it all the time as a cc on guy nr 2 while nuking dude nr1 ! Yes chain lightning with wrath it wonderful, But not super necessary. 18 madness and 13 corruption is sooooo good the rest of the point is just a matter of personal taste this is what im going for, the "empty body" help out quite a bit i find + the good barrier. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201GhrRZbc0MZcrbRsMz.1

DoT = Damage over time = Periodic damage ability. thats the EXACT same thing with different words and still BY DEFINITION Force lightning would be considered a DoT... Channeled abilities is by definition DoTs or Periodic damage abilities. thats where the confusion is, We understand that the "trend" is for it to be different types of spells but in this case when it benefits from Paratisism and gets a fancy new name one who knows english starts to wonder.

Hello, For all out dps id say this one http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZrsrMdoMuzZcMcRs0z.1 Youll never run out of mana and can deliver top dps none stop in long boss fights. force lightning upgrades and wrath is wonderful, the just put liek affliction on them procc wrath chainlightning the lightning strike (for reset cd chain even if only 6 sec and the regen buff) then go back to wrath procc for chain. It will be mucho solid for Pve although AWFUL for pvp. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201ZbsbMdZcMfRsMkrc.1 This might prove more useful for single target Pve and you use deathfield for deathmarks then forcelightning and wrath for crushing darkness then a fast affliction then pump some lightning strike for buff and chain lightning worked in. this will not be as affective for aoe but pretty close and mana will still not be an issue. with this u get instnat whirlwind wich is wonderful. this specc will do good in PVP as well if you play your role as pure DPS even if i think a cc specced or hybrid heal will be better for pvp. U have in both build the upgraded shock wich i would not use in standard rotations but rather as a filler when forced to move alot. U can go for a all out madness or lightning and still do fine but i feel confident when i say a hybrid will do better. all out builds are abit simpler to pull off without a single mistake. I find that often builds on forums go WAY overboard with the regen points since it is absolutely not needed in PVP but for the PvE part it will most likely prove useful. GLHF

I've posted like 10 different threads about just this! Information I got was this: Eventhough by definition it is a Periodic damage ability, it is most likely not intended to count as such. And it does for the moment not consume and benefit from deathmark and the talents above. Even so it is right now having somewhat of an identity crýsis as it does trigger the "paratisism" which clearly says "critical hits with periodic damage abilitys". After MUCH MUCH consideration i really dont think it will in the end be classed as a periodic damage ability. But oh how i would've loved it if it was so! going for a madness 28 lightning 13 would be wonderful dps The "name" "periodic damage abilities" is really terrible though and oh how it is misleading! hopes this helps you a bit! please post what builds you would go for and for what reasons if it was counted as or not! just abit curious Hugs and kisses

Sorcs aren't overpower... Sorcs are overplayed though. Sorc becomes weak if someone use interrupt and lockout ability CORRECT i mean against dps lock down there FL. healers just interrupt the crap out of them when trying to heal and your dps will win. they have alot of nice abilites and cc but so does all the other classes, i play an assasin, operative, jaggernaut and a powertech.. I find that everyone of these classas stands on an equal ground with sorcs. although most of them are slightely more tricky to play. LEARN the sorcs rotations and proccs and heals! they have key waeknesses and will be easy to take down after some knowlage

u must be horrible at this game. sorcs are by no means underpowered, they are infact very blanaced and stand on equal ground with every one else !

Go for hybrid! id think a 28 madness and 13 lightning is going to deliver most dps and really funny play style with alot of Proccs that is alot of fun lightning barrage + wrath is a wonderful combo Hugs and kisses

I'd like to see any kind of actually useful spell for pvp that u get at 45-50. Now u get all the dps spells at like lvl 25 after that it's only the talent points that deliver. the late sorc spells are like instant in-combat ress useless in pvp and a like lower threat pull which is kinda fun but not that big of a deal. the other classes have alot of magnificant spells and abilites at higher lvl to look forward to + the talent points. I really wish that we'd get a fun spell like tactical nuke och a defensive cd or something at late lvl that is intended to please PVP and not ONLY PvE as it is now! Hugs and kisses

this is a good build. But a few changes i think would be just a tat better instread of the affliction boost why not deathmark? that boosts both affliction and crushing darkness! and then you'll have another point to spend in longer jolt which is always nice! also id prefer then extra dmg in the bottom instead of the less cost. think youll have enough regen as it is. these changes will buff crushing darkness wich in all fairness can often be replaced by chainlighting after wrath proccs but against a healer the crushingdarkness will give you more of an edge. 20% deathmark 20%wrath makes crushingdarkness very useful against healers and really all mobs that take a long time to kill! my build im going is very similar to yours and i think the play style is going to be so much fun when at 50!

Well go for 18 madness first, smooth in Both pvp and Pve with the deathfield, wrath and the wonderful instant whirlwind that effects 3 mobs and 10 sec less electrocute cd. After that u either go lightning for aditional dps and cc or you go for heals for survivability, It depends on your playstyle and personal liking But I'd start with madness for 18 points (DONT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD go for 16 in madness and ignore the INSTANT whirlwind which is absolute KING in PvP aswell as PvE, of this im 100% sure !) hugs and kisses

Actually Mercenary has more dps in all aspects. Singel target also. Sorc as you say makes up for it in great cc. I also were on the same choise as you, however i chose the sorc. Mercenary will loose against a sorc in pvp every time thanks for the amazing jolt that brings tracer missile to an end. sure we can get jolted too but it doesn't hurt as much. I'd say the sorc got the edge in PvP and the mercenary in PvE. However they are both viable in both. The main reason i went for sorc is that i found sooooo many viable hybrid builds. You can make a 16/7/18 - 0/23/18 - 13/0/28 and so on and so on. And i felt that the mercenary trees did not "fuse" as well in hybrid builds. I think the extreme variation in playstyle and builds is sooo much fun I love that all sorc 31points builds in one tree SUCK, they are really really really aweful. but gotta admit that the 31 Arsenal in mercenary is a beautiful build with wonderful sync but all in all the sorcs slight edge in PvP does it for me. and alot of that cc u get counters Melee stealth which Sorcs often lacks. Hope this helps alittle