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  1. More than that, the problem with Legends was that due to the actors' age (For the post ROTJ EU) we would have landed near the end of the Dark Nest Trilogy without much possibilities to explain the context (Sure, they didn't explain it in TFA but there isn't 40 novels worth of major storylines between 6 and 7)... and the post-ROTJ EU mostly starts to collapse at this point anyway. Regarding the pre-Prequels EU, nothing is set in stone but they seem to be taking a broad stroke approach to it. There is a Malachor in the galaxy but it wasn't the high point of the Mandalorian Wars, it seems to have more in common with Ruusan in the Darth Bane stories (Massive Jedi vs. Sith that ended in mass death due to a Sith "weapon") for example.
  2. I get your point, trust me. I just don't think the galaxy works like this. And to be honest, my original answer was to the question: "Why does the First Order controls the galaxy in TLJ?" My point was that in the handful of days (Or even hours, it's no clear) since the destruction of Hosnian Prime, no one has had time to build new ships and/or assemble them into a coherent force. And there were no real military force because of the demilitarisation decree which was believed to be a good idea when it was passed and voted. Considering John Boyega's comments that Episode IX is "The war to end all wars", I firmly believe that the scenario you describe (Planets building their ships and opposing the First Order) is a possible one, even a likely one. Just, without hyperspace ramming.
  3. I have a question for you: How is taking elements that were in the previous movie (See Theory video) and going in that direction "Dropping everything Abrams did"? It's in the movie, denying it is pointless. It's there, it possible to see it. So how, tell me, did Johnson drop anything set up? Dropping a set-up implies outright changing the direction it was headed in. TFA did not lock any direction, it was left open. Several "roads" were possible, Johnson chose one. How. Did. He. Drop. Anything? Explain it to me. That is relevant how? He made the same deduction as I did. If he could do it, why couldn't I? Why do I have to be a liar? Again, the movie doesn't do that. It never "implied" a great hidden background for Rey, it just avoided talking about it because it was intentional. Says who? The Clone Wars, the 2008 series supervized by Lucas, shows a BABY, a litteral BABY, lifting objects with the Force. If a BABY can use the Force why does Rey need to train? Because otherwise it goes against your vision? You don't have to agree. But there is a world between disagreeing... and calling someone a liar. You did the second thing. You didn't claim to have a different vision. You declared that I was not only wrong but doing so intentionally. That's not disagreeing, that's what's called a personal attack. It is when you have no proof. That's the crux of the issue from the beginning; What you think isn't the truth. It's just... what you think. Tell me that you disagree and that you still believe you are correct? That's what educated people do when they disagree, not baselessly call their opponent a liar. If I lack cognitive capacities, you have dreadful reading skills. I never said that TFA never implied there was something fishy about Rey's past. I said, pretty much word for word, that the film left it open that their COULD be something about Rey's past or not. Turns out not. That's what I said, I invite you to check. Supreme Leader Snoke, the Throne Room scene. "Darkness rises, and Light to meet it", and "As you grew more powerful so did your equal in the Light." Who's lying now? Is it not in the movie? You're basing your argument on the Legends way of the Force. In the current Canon, several Force-Sensitive have demonstrated incredibly quick or near-instant mastery of its power. In the end your argument remains: I have my vision of this and that and there is no way it can be wrong. If the Force was just about training and not about destiny and ****, Chirrut wouldn't have survived his first scene in Rogue One. But RO and TLJ have now shown that the Force is capable (And willing) to directly interfere to make sure that events happen as they should. Rey having her "mastery" of the Force is simply due to her having no master available to train her. Edit: Scratch the above questions, just answer this one: Who made you an authority on Star Wars to the point where you can state "facts", no back it up with any concrete material and still allow yourself to call anyone contesting your points a moron or a liar? Unless you are secretely Pablo Hidalgo or a contributor to the Story Group, you have zero legitimacy. Also, how can you in the same paragraph claim that Abrams had no plans for Episodes VIII and IX and just after that declare that Rey's past was supposed to be a big mystery and that it proved she'd been trained before. Kind of contradictory, isn't it? Was there a plan, or was there not? (Answer: There wasn't, Abrams admitted to it himself. So Johnson didn't "change" anything.) Edit 2: Regarding training, I found this little nugget of info that will interest you: Some such abilities, such as enhanced reflexes and minor acts of precognition, could be accessed without conscious application. Others, such as telekinesis or a mind trick, required acts of will, though with training could be made to seem effortless. (Taken from http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_power) So the most recent info databank on Force Powers as of today regarding new canon outright states that training is not mandatory. Satisfied? Did I quote and sourced my claims enough or are you now going to accuse me of editing the Wookieepedia article just "to prove you wrong"?
  4. I never said "Not able to build enough. When I mentionned the amount of ressources it was at the beginning of this thread, oh so long ago, when you asked why the galaxy wouldn't spawn gazillions of ships to destroy the First Order. As for cost-effective, I do maintain my stance. Three Imperial Star Destroyers were enough to glass the surface of a planet and render it unfit to organic life. So with the ressources to build three capital ships, you either have three weapons of terror and control that can be used multiple times... or three one use battering rams. Make the calculations. Extracting the ressources is all good. But what about transforming it? Assembling the components? Having the technical knowledge to actually build worthwhile ships? As I said, you try to reduce the issue to a matter of numbers when it's much more than that. Or simply that they are not imbeciles who know the value of a sturdy and multi-purpose vehicle which isn't just a one-time projectile. Tell me, what could the Raddus do before it was used as a last-time resort by Holdo? It was a mobile command center, could transport troops, shuttles and starfighters, had medical facilities. If space battering ram were the norm, then those things wouldn't be put inside them, right? But then, as AlienTX mentionned, how do you move troops and fighters between systems? Well you build dedicated ships for that. So you still have your regular ships and you now have the added requirements to produce battering rams for ***** and giggles. Also, tactically, how do a battle based on ships ramming each other work? People line up and speed towards each other, hoping that they've put enough armor on the front to resist? I wonder why, if it ever was the strategy used, it was not perpetuated...
  5. Where did you get that? I just checked the transcript of that episode and nowhere is the word "Trillion" said even once. In TLJ it is stated that the First Order will soon control the most important systems, not all of them. And nowhere is it indicated that the First Order has "only 30 Star Destroyers", considering "Before the Awakening" indicates that they still use old "Imperial Star Destroyers" as unmaned drones. Again with the "Trillions" obsessions. Coruscant has "Roughly one trillion inhabitants". One. And it's the most populated world in the galaxy. There are 3.2 million star systems habitable, which means that most of the 400 million stars are either not maped (Therefore would not be accessible by hyperspace) or have nothing of value around (Not all stars have a planetary system) and again, building a ship just to throw it at someone else's is not cost effective. Even if you strip it down to the bare essentials. Because taking down even the Supremacy would require several times the Raddus Maybe the Executor could have done it but there were only twelve or so Imperial Super Star Destroyers ever built. By the Empire, the galaxy spanning-one with all those planets to mine from. Twelve. Listen, get it through your damn mind once and for all: If ramming isn't a common tactic in Star Wars, it's because it's not done. Simple as that. There's no need to pull imaginary numbers out of your *** to justify it, it's not done unless in critical situations (Taking down the shield gate on Scariff and Holdo's sacrifice). I don't see why this discussion keeps going on, it goes nowhere. We tell you how why we believe it's not a viable tactic in-universe (As in why it wasn't more frequent in previous movies), you tell "But this, that and that therefore it should be." No matter what should or should not be in your opinion, the fact is that ramming isn't a common or advised tactic. Doubly so for hyperspace ramming.
  6. Agreed, the Porgs were annoying. Although seeing it a second time made them more bearable because I knew they'd be there and it was easier to just push them back to the back of my mind. There's just one thing that bothers me now: In TLJ, you hear Porgs all the time of Ahch-To yet you don't in TFA's final set of scenes. I demand a Special Edition of TFA with Porgs added at the end. For consistency's sake. Also because I'm a monster ^^
  7. I have issues with the RT score because it seems off to me. The only two places where the score for TLJ is anywhere close to "bad" are Rotten Tomatoes (51%) and Metacritic (4.7) If there REALLY was an overall dislike for the movie, the scores would be consistent everywhere but they are not since it's at 7.6 on IMDB and has a Cinemascore of A. Very different from the overly middling ratings on RT and MC. And the movie wouldn't already be cruising towards an easy billion dollars at the box-office.
  8. That's kind of ignoring most of what I said: We've been shown that the Force is an active participant in the Galaxy's fate. When there is no other way, it intervenes pretty directly. For example, allowing a blind guy to walk through a wall of blasterfire coming from Krennic's personal guards who had been shown so far to be a terrifying force in battle (While on Scarriff they don't take a single loss until faced with Baze) and yet emerge unscathed but dying seconds after his "purpose" is fulfilled. It is also shown when Rey, a "nobody" with strong Force Sensitivity is given quick mastery of whatever powers she needs to survive until she can be a proper opponent for Kylo Ren without hacks. Therefore creating a new "balance". Also, AlienTX did explain my point pretty well: Just because we saw the Jedi and Sith training doesn't mean that it is REQUIRED. The Clone Wars animated series (Which is canon and was supervised by George Lucas himself) showed babies levitating objects with the Force without any training. And also, isn't that the point of both trilogies (And now TLJ) that the Jedi were wrong and had lost sight of what the Force was about? It certainly was spelled out in Yoda's chapters in the ROTS novelization and the reason for his exile: To reconnect with the Force, not to "train". That's why I'm not bothered by the events shown in TLJ and why I can't understand your issue: Training was never stated to be mandatory. In fact, didn't Luke know how to use mind tricks in ROTJ (Which failed because Jabba but he knew it) without being "trained" to do them. Neither Yoda nor Obi-Wan had him practice it, he just saw it done. You're not wrong, some of the humor was badly done (Though a decent amount worked for me.) That's apparently a reference to the Phasma book and the Aftermath trilogy. Armitage Hux is the illegitimate son of Brendol Hux, an Imperial General and a kitchen worker. His mother is a VERY SORE POINT for Hux, to the point that he conspired wiht Phasma to get rid of Brendol Hux and establish himself beyond being "The Bastard Son of Brendol Hux". In the film proper is does feel like a "Yo momma joke" though, and seeing it again with the knowledge of this elements made the joke less cringey.
  9. While I truly disliked Space Vegas/Canto Bight, I disagree that it was useless. It developed Finn and was the defining factor leading to Holdo's plan failing. In a movie where the central theme is "Failure and learning to live with it and learn from it", it had its place. It was just very, VERY badly done.
  10. We've already covered that: Hyperspace ramming is NOT a one-shot/one-kill ratio. Considering their relative size, you would have to sacrifice an entire Corellian Blockade Runner to destroy an Imperial Star Destroyer, not an X-Wing. Or at the very least a transport or an Arquiten Cruiser. If HyperSpace Ramming was not dependant on size then Hera Syndulla going through a station hangar (Opened on both sides) in pseudomotion (The distortion when a ship enters hyperspace) with a U-Wing would have destroyed the whole station, it didn't, just wrecked the hangar itself. We therefore know that a starfighter isn't enough to destroy a whole station, let alone the Death Star or a freaking planet! Now, considering a First Order Star Destroyer is three times the size of an ISD, do you understand why an X-Wing wouldn't do nearly enough damage? It's not cost effective, plain and simple, because you need to have at least a light cruiser as your projectile, and if you can build a light cruiser, why make it single use instead of making it reliable starship?
  11. Why indeed? Maybe be cause a three-kilometer long cruiser was unable to really destroy the Supremacy which is still dwarfed by the Death Star. So please, pack your real-world physics, they don't belong in Star Wars and never have (Sorry if it sounds hostile but seriously, the very concept of hyperspace is ******** so don't apply real world logic to it.) Reading people that argue slamming an hyperspacing X-Wing into the Death Star would have worked makes me cringe. It wouldn't work, TLJ proves that with their scene since we have an idea of how much damage is cause by what. And that's discounting the concept of "Mass Shadows" that are canon and explain that massive space objects still exert some form of gravity to ships in hyperspace and would pull them out of it. So, it wouldn't work x2.
  12. Actually I said "rewritten or expanded" To me TLJ is clearly a case of Canon expansion rather the rewritting. Never have we seen anything in the previous canon that stated that the Force needed training. We saw the Jedi who had made a tradition of it, so it was logical. And the Sith who were leading a millenia long shadow-war and needed to stay on the level and surpass them. And then we saw Luke training to face Vader. But as I mentionned, in both the trilogies, we had prospective students AND willing masters. While Yoda wasn't sure about Luke, he mostly trolled him to test him then still showed him the rope. As of TFA, Rey has no potential teacher at all, and since the Force is now clarified as an active entity in shaping the destiny of the Galaxy, it's not an issue. Honestly, you want to know what convinced me that Rey had no prior training and was being led and hand-held by the Force? It was Chirrut in Rogue One, aka the blind guy who can't use the Force but whose destiny was, ultimately, to reach that lever on Scarrif and activate it. Once he was done with that, his "luck" vanished. Same with Bodhi Rook who was claimed by Saw to be doomed to become insane after going through his tentacle **** routine yet remained sane, flew Rogue One to Scarrif, boosted the signal tower then was exploded. Or Gallen who lived long enough after being almost poin-blanked by a proton torpedo to give Jyn a few parting words that made her determined to find the plans. More than ever, Rogue One confirmed that the Force was not just a passive power and that it was basically "writing" the story (Something Obi-Wan alluded to in ANH). When I saw that, it convinced me that Rey was never trained before and was simply getting hacks to rebalance the galaxy.
  13. Except when the Canon is rewritten or expanded, as it definitely was in TLJ. I could understand the Mary Sue accusations in TFA (Mostly because her skills were implied instead of explained, nobody should need to read Before the Awakening to know she can pilot and fight pretty well) but in TLJ it's just ridiculous to hold on to those accusations. Rey is shown to be a lesser fighter than Kylo Ren (He takes on twice as much of the Praetorian Guard as she does and kills them much quicker), she gets bested by Luke who doesn't even use a proper weapon (And kind of cheats because she whips out a lightsaber against his ripped-off antena) and is shown to be far easier to read for Snoke than Kylo is. Apart from that, she lifts some rocks and shoots with one of the Falcon's turrets. Not canon-breaking level. (Also, Chewbacca's impressive performance on Crait kind of invalidates accusations that Rey is some god-tiered pilot she shouldn't be since Chewie is just as good as her so at best she's Han's level. If even that.) But then, to be fair, Star Wars has always been full of Mary Sue, especially the Legends books (Which included Luke among their illustrious ranks, right beside his wife, several of his apprentices...) so Rey is just continuing a franchise-long tradition.
  14. That's the Legends first Jedi. We have exactly no info on the Canon Jedi. Considering how TLJ pretty much changed everything we know about the Force, I'm going to consider that until they actually reveal anything, the concept of an "awakening" may not actually be a new occurence. As for Jedi Training (And Sith Training) I personally always saw it as more of a way to "direct" the studen towards a chosen path. The idea that Force Users require training to use relatively basic powers has often been challenged in Legends and in Canon now, that's why it doesn't bother me. While it can seem like training is essential, we're never told word for word that it is an absolute truth. Just because we'd never been shown another possibility doesn't mean that possibility is canon-breaking, at least IMO. I wonder if it has to do with my own attempts to create a fictionnal setting and trying to introduce new ideas that seem to contradict previous lore. That may have made me a bit too tolerant towards retcons (I don't like the idea that this debate opposes close-mindedness vs. open-mindedness. I think it's more an issue about how we respectively perceive stories and their structure. There's no wrong or right view, you said it yourself.)
  15. Absolutely not. You called me a liar on the issue of Rey's parentage. I showed you a Theory video from DECEMBER 2016 (I'm using caps so you don't miss the date) that showed that people had already interpreted (Turns out correctly) elements presented in TFA to deduce the truth. You had the audacity to keep calling me a liar despite that. Face the music, random Internet stranger: You call someone a liar because you were wrong and couldn't admit it. That person proved to you that a lot of people had come to the same conclusion and your reaction was to make a fool out of yourself by repeating your baseless accustions. I'll be frank: The others matters being discusses, I'll happily chalk it up as us not agreeing. I did it with NuSec who completely disagree on the film with me and others. But on the issue of calling me a liar, that's different. You're not insulting a movie I thought decent or questioning my view of a plot element, you're attacking me, personally. So I'll keep calling you out on it until you admit that you were an imbecile to baselessly call be a liar. No it didn't. You CHOSE to interpret it that way but TLJ pretty much spells it out. The Force powered up and skilled up Rey because there was no one to train her (Luke had cut himself from the Force) and balance needed to be restored. And beyond her raw power, Rey hasn't done anything out of the ordinary for a Jedi. She mind tricked a brainwashed soldier that spent all his life receiving propaganda in his face (After herself being on the receiving end of a Force Mind Rape and overcoming it through the sheer strenght of Daisy Ridley's overacting). The rest of her displays are just power, not mastery. Snatching the saber instead of Kylo? That was her stronger than him. Flying the ship and fighting? If you've really read Before the Awakening then you should know Rey has some experience in both those field. So again, where in the movie does her "mastery" implies she was previously trained? And when? By whom? Why? None of those elements have even the slightest bit of an answer which points towards it being the wrong "solution" to the Rey enigma. So stop pretending that YOUR interpretation is correct when you don't even have elements to support them. I'm open to people debatting mine but not by calling me a liar or dismissing them out of hand because it bothers them. And that seems to have been your MO: Something doesn't "agree" with your vision, it is therefore not true/inconsequential/misinterpreted.
  16. That's kind of my point. It was open to interpretation in TFA, it's not anymore with TLJ and the answer "chosen" by the writer is coherent with elements of TFA. Whether or not someone likes it doesn't change the fact that it's logical and works. My personal preference would have been for Rey to have been bound to Anakin's Force Ghost and her powers and skills came from him giving his memories to help her. That didn't happen but it's not like I'm angry it didn't (Mostly because it's silly.) As for the lack of training, for all we know, the first Jedi also didn't have to train either. Maybe it's the Force's way to rush things, since there was no Light Side person to train her available and it (The Force) needed to reestablish the balance. The Force would "know" that Luke has cut himself from it and therefore might reject Rey.
  17. Correct, I mixed you up with someone else from another topic, same forum avatar. He was actively insulting several people, you weren't my bad. And speaking for myself I know I wouldn't. Taking into account everything in the movie (And seeing it again yesterday) I can safely that what you point out as plot hole, I felt were at worst plot conveniences. Those aren't errors (That's what a plot hole is, something that makes no sense given the context of the setting, behavior of a character, even common logic), they are just things that you dislike and feel are contrived. And you're right, it's okay for you to feel that they are. But they're not plot holes. So please, stop calling them that. Especially in the case of Holdo where he reaction is completely in line with her character, doubly so when taking into account "Leia: Princess of Alderaan". The Hyperspace thing needs more explanation but considering Han was aware, as far as ANH, that hyperspacing ships had a mass and could collide with real-space objects, it flows logically that the tactic of hyperspace-ramming ships has been deemed impractical at best, wasteful at worst. Otherwise, we'd have seen it used regularily before. It wasn't, therefore it's not a good "regular" tactic. That's how I see this.
  18. But... that's simply not true. Not only Poe wasn't "a major player" anymore, he got demoted from Commander to Captain. But he also had nothing to do tied to the plan. So his orders were to stay put. He refused to follow those orders because Holdo communicated poorly but, again, she was under no obligation to communicate anything to him. Poe was no longer a high-ranking officer. He should have trusted her instead of *********** everything up. That's the whole point of his arc: Learning to understand why people do things, not throwing lives away. You see that on Crait when he pulls back the speeders from the attack then correctly deduces Luke's plan. And when he's shown to understand, Leia basically names him leader of the Resistance again, stepping down on the spot. The film shows it pretty clearly. Holdo hyper-rams the Supremacy, a 60-km wide heavily armored ship with the Raddus a 3-km long ship. Is the Supremacy destroyed? No, actually, it's badly damaged and disabled but still functionnal enough to land an entire assault force on Crait. So, the Resistance just sacrificed it's biggest ship, it's only remaining cruiser, and it didn't even destroy it's target completely. Such efficiency, such... well, waste of material since the Supremacy will be fixed in less time than a new Raddus can be built. As for X-Wings, again, ressources are not unlimited. And that's not bothering to repeat for the Nth time that this is a desperate gamble by Holdo and certainly not a reliable tactic. Also, Interdictors.
  19. I suppose that was meant to show us again how insanely good a pilot Poe is. He's pretty much the equal of Legends Wedge if not better (And considering the themes of the movie, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he is at least passively Force-Sensitive). The Visual Dictionary, perhaps anticipating the complaints, mentions that the Dreadnaught's turrets aren't designed to take down fast flying fighters but slower targets like bombers and cruisers. That's the reason Canady says they should have scrambled their TIEs "five minutes ago" in his own words. Heh, Holdo is kind of understandable in refusing to clue in Poe considering his reputation as a hotheaded glory-seeker. After all, the first thing he does when he sees that she's fueling the transport is not to ask why, it's to immediately call her a coward and a traitor. That being said, I don't think the movie really implies that Holdo is 100% in the right and Poe 100% wrong, the thing I took from that arc was that Poe should learn to listen beyond his dreams of heroism and glory while Holdo should have learned to read Poe better and seen that under all that fame-seeking, there was a genuine commander in there. Two things: They had no way of knowing Carrie Fisher would die and were planning for Episode IX to be her movie. (Badly) CGIing her into the ramming sequence, while dubbing her voice by someone else would have be the ultimate insult to Fisher's legacy, having someone else play her character's death after she died IRL. And Ackbar's voice actor, Erik Bauersfeld died even earlier in production, in early April 2016 which is why his role is so minor. At the point of his death, principal photography was only half done and I'm pretty sure they only killed Ackbar because Bauersfeld died too. He probably would have remained a tertiary character in IX had he not died.
  20. So your entire point is basically "You're a liar because I've decided so." Okay, discussion's done on my part, I think I've given you enough time to at least make a convincing argument beyond "This is my interpretation, it is therefore the absolute truth of what was implied in previous stories" I SHOWED YOU a goddamned theory video from DECEMBER 2016 showing that people had guessed Rey was a nobody who'd always lived on Jakku, which turned out to be true, and still you persists with your accusations, calling me a liar because it derails you crusade against the movie (I'm sorry, at this point, this is very much a "crusade" since you push your version at the detriment of contradicting elements, you have long stopped caring about debate or opposing opinions.) You want to be correct, then be so. But I won't involve myself into this wall-talking exercise. I'm done. You have no point to make beyond "I'm right because I am and you are wrong because I've decided so." Bye. P.S: Regarding Before the Awakening, I happen to have a certain amount of knowledge as to how licensed litterature works. For a publisher to order a story more than two years before its publication is not just bad business, it's an open door to the author pressuring them for (a lot of) additional money. So the only believable (And probable) reason why Rucka wrote Finn as competent is that he wasn't aware of how he was in the film an assumed that he'd be competent and composed like the rest of the on-screen troopers, beyond his skin color. Finn being black may have been why he's portrayed as a person lacking both nerves and variety of skill but that doesn't mean in any way that "Finn's Story" was written before Boyega was cast and that Rucka imagined him as white in it.
  21. I honestly expect both Yoda, Luke and possibly McGregor as a test run for the Obi-Wan movie coming after it. I doubt Abrams will include Christensen though (Didn't he express dislike for the Prequels?) And well, it's teased several times that Luke will return anyway, the two biggest hints being: -Him saying "See you around, kid" to Kylo Ren on Crait. -And the fact that he promised three lessons to Rey and ultimately only gave her two. If one thing is shown in TLJ it's that even at his lowest, Luke is a man of his word. And now that he's found his confidence in himself again, he'll definitely finish Rey's training.
  22. Another point I'd read on the Star Wars subreddit is the reason why nobody responded to the Crait distress call: They probably assumed it was a trap, even with Leia's personal codes. After all, why would the figurehead of the Resistance suddenly beam out an easily detectable call for help leading to a far away system? Either Leia had been captured and forced to do it or she was doomed to die. And until Luke stalled the FO she and the Resistance were ****ed. BTW I think supplementary material indicate that the fleet we follow in the film is just the very last group to evacuate D'Qar, explaining why Jess Pava, Nien Numb or Snap Wexley aren't seen anywhere even in the opening dogfight.
  23. I realize that we've massively veered off of the original question, you're question mind you. That was: How can the First Order "reign"? Answer is: In the very short time span that TFA and TLJ happened, in a relatively DMZd galaxy, no one could muster a decent enough force to oppose them. The fact that they are too small to hold against a united galaxy may very well be the point of Episode IX. But as far as TFA and TLJ, the situation is not incoherent (As I suppose you were implying through your question.)
  24. Won't be able to quote/answer everything since I'm on my phone but addressing some points: -You try to frame the "discussion" around "Before the Awakening" as you being obviously right... because yet ignore everything that indicates you are wrong (Boyega being cast in April 2014 at the latest, the announcement of BtA in late September 2015, Greg Rucka bein busy on previous projects meaning he didn't wrote Finn's story before Boyega was cast. Also logic, why write a short story collection more than an entire year before the film is out?) -Blaster rifles have always been stated to be unwieldy and we've rarely seen anyone make an accurate running one-handed shot. So yeah, skill. -I would gladly link you my posts regarding TFA theories on the IMDB boards but they don't exist anymore. I sincerely admire your pretentiouness that allows to call me a liar because it undermines your rant. What gives you the right to declare me a liar to suit your beliefs? -Elements pointing towards Rey knowing the truth were in TFA (Maz makes her admit as much), the fact that after Takodana she never brings up her parents and blasts off in search of Luke without hesitation. -Trying to convince me that Rey's power has to come from bloodline won't get you anywhere, because the Prequels exist and in it, Obi-Wan, Yoda and Mace Windu come from Force-Blinf parents (Or else they'd have been scouted, trained and not have had kids.) -The film never implies that Kylo Ren personally knows Rey, otherwise he would not call her "The Girl" until he learns who she is. -It's implied that Rey "figures out" Mind Trick by turning Kylo's mind probe against her. -When I say Kylo and Snoke are not Sith, I mean they don't use the name "Sith" which means that the Prophecy of the Chosen One is still fulfilled since the Dark Side isn't being "represented" by Sith anymore while in Legends, the Sith were very much around and very much DS. Rest is too long to address here. Edit: Regarding Rey's parentage, I knew she was neither a Skywalker nor a Solo in early 2016 when Claudia Gray's Bloodline detailled the pre-TFA timeline. The only "theory" I believed possible was that she was Anakin reincarnated with his old memories "leaking" in her mind but the fighting style didn't fit so I wasn't that convinced. Edit 2: Notice the date? 21 December 2016. If someone managed to put out a convincing case for Rey "Nobody-Important" a year ago, how arrogant can you be to declare that I lied to you when I said I had figured that out too?
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