Then why would they hand out 30 days free? Because their not interested in our money???? yeah. That's it.

Cute... Well; If they had cross server ques, and only allowed 8v8man RANKED/RATED premades, then what randoms would be complaining?

Clearly....

Ques... not Quests. Are you retarded? or did you not notice that this is in the PvP section.....

Never said it would save it; but it would have prevented the un-subs that occurred today as a result.

Simple economics teaches that when any company starts throwing out free time for a subscription, its because they are loosing a huge number of their existing member base and they are begging for time to fix whatever issues are plaguing their members. I have no idea what the numbers are, but last I heard, active subscriptions were at 1.3mill. Lets assume that the PvP player base is only 20%... and lets round it to 200K. Now out of that 200K, lets say that only 20% of them (and that's being very generous) decide to un-sub because of the lack of 8 man ques and other promised features. And please don't say its comming Soon: Because its been requested since Beta and here we are almost a half year after release. Here's the math: 20% of 200K is 40K. 40,000 X $15.00 = $600,000. 600,000.00 X 3 months = 1.8milllion So to say that we, in the pvp community, are not important; you are crazy.... Keep in mind that's just 20% of the 20%.... All together the so called 20% PvP community makes up for 3 million a month in revenue. Now lets look at this 30 days free time. If there are 1.3 mill subscriptions; and all of them are getting 30 days free; thats 19.5 million in lost revenue. 19.5 MILLION! Obviously they see that the long game is profitable; and loosing 19.5million today to ensure 40million in 3 months is a last ditch effort to hold on to this business... And make no mistake; this IS a business. I think the community has been loud and clear on what is expected as far as PvP is concerned. All you need to do is go read the Beta Tester forums and you'll see the nearly year old posts asking for 8man ques. There is your mandate. Give the people what they want; and you won't have to worry about loosing your members. Otherwise; continue to lie and throw up smoke and mirrors and you will quickly take your place among the "other" failed MMO's. I'll take your free time, and I'll make the best of it. But if you think for a second that myself and the other 5% of the entire population will wait any longer than that, you are sadly mistaken.

Organized? You call 4man premades with the RNG of another 4 players organized? And Rarely are the other 4 players another premade. At least on my server..... Also, I'm in a guild that has 2-3 4 man groups running at a time during peak hours. We try to que around the same time; but its mostly our guild versus each-other; and sometimes its 8v4+4pugs... which if you're on the other 4 man team sucks. Rated, Ranked, Expertise... They could have left all that alone and just given us 8man ques and I think the response to everything would have been much better. I plan to un-sub and finish out my time... The free 30days? w/e.. Keep it. I'll come back and give you more money when you give me 8man ques.

Obviously you're ignorant to the case being presented. Its not about ranked warzones... Its about the ability to que with 8man teams. I have no idea what the percentage of people that only do PvP; but In my guild; on my server, we make up the majority. And this was a flaw that was being SCREAMED from the day Beta first launched last year..... Some may stay; and grind all over again for a 4th tier set of gear; but many have had it and are leaving as a result.

I really think its sad that the Dev's at Bioware refuse to address one of the biggest problems still plaguing SWTOR. That is the ability to que with a full 8 man group for PvP. I could really care less about ranked/rated pvp; I could reallyREALLY care less about Legacy crap that can't even be used in PvP/End-Game PvE. THE ONLY DAMN THING I WANTED WAS TO QUE WITH A FULL TEAM OF GUILDIES but no.... Thats to much to ask. I almost quit playing after my first few days because of this. And from reading the forums I knew I wasn't the only one. But here we are, almost 6 months after release and what has been done to resolve it? nothing. I was hanging out for the last month because of the promises made for this ability in 1.2; but then you decide 5 f'ing hours before implementation that you ARENT INSTALLING THE PVP PORTION?!?!?! Oh, great, more gear that I have to grind endlessly for; which doesn't matter cause half the time the other 4 players on the team don't play as a team. I gotta say, you all failed. And not just a little.... Big. I've been reading our guild forums today (which is a PvP guild), and we ALREADY have people saying Adios because of your lack of integrity. Great job Bioware! I really hope that future MMO's take a lesson from your incompetence.

I guess it is true. If you aren't on the Madden team; you may not have the same job next year.

"we will not compromise on quality by rushing it to launch" Really? REALLY? The what are all the Patch notes for the first 2 months all about? GIVE US 8man PREMADES NOW!

Like you have a choice to support or not support their decision... Obviously the player base has no say in whats important and what isn't. These issues were raised during the Beta test... Not ness the Rated PvP; but the 8man queing options were. Fail....

I'd be surprised if a Dev actually reads and replies to any of these posts over the last 158 PAGES; but here we go. I'm the GM of a very successful PvP guild on The Deadweight. I would like to think that we are one of the only things keeping that server alive because of our strong member base and our love for PvP. We make up about 50% of the lvl 50 population during peak hours; so I'm not being over zealous. One of our biggest complaints since the initial launch has been the inability to que as 8man teams. We usually have 3-4 4 man groups and we are constantly fighting against ourselves (which is fun to a degree), but the whole concept of a guild is to fight TOGETHER. 1.2 was going to mark a huge step forward in how the pvp on this game was played. To assume that this is not a KEY function that ANY mmo should have, is a dire mistake and will cost SWTOR not only players, but respect in terms of future releases of games. Its no secret that EA likes to release products that are incomplete and buggy.... SO WHY START NOW!?!?!?! Give us our 8man premades or risk loosing a huge portion of your player base. Though I don't speak for everyone in my guild; I'm fairly certain that if plans are not announced to resolve this QUICKLY, I'm going to suggest a Boycott. Not just one unsub - but 130 unsubs. Thats 130X15 for 1 month.... Maybe thats nothing to you... and if thats the case, you should admit defeat now and move on to the next huge mistake you call a Great Game.... EA, you piss in my cherrios more than any other game company out there. I am not only embarrassed for you; I pity you and your inability to make things right. Not just that; but you took 2 gaming companies (Lucas Arts & Bioware), and turned them to ****. Bioware, I still believe in you.... And maybe to a fault. But if you have any dignity left; FIX THIS ASAP. Otherwise, you'll shortly have several servers ready to be applied to your next online experience, seeing as how they won't be used for SWTOR.

Whose baby do I have to punch to get 8 man premades?