Are you serious? This is a video game for FUN they should be catering to us. The loss of force clap for all guardians is a huge hit and people that don't pvp, like you, wouldnt be able to understand how big of a hit this is for guardians. So to compensate they need to lower the cost of focus defense.

since force clap is removed they should give us focused defense that doesnt have a force cost, or a very low one. At the very least, additional damage ticks should NOT cost focus, that is beyond retarded.

since i dont want to change my spec every time i que for a WZ or get invited to an op/HM, i'm focus right now, and it handles trash well but its single target damage is too low. I know that vigiliance doesnt do nearly as well as focus in pvp but I want a spec that does well in both pve and pvp.

Whats the current best vigiliance PVP build? I've been specced focus since valor 30 to battlemaster but now im starting to notice some severe limitations.

I'm thinking in pvp terms. Other classes like marauders sacrifcice nothing to activate their defenses. Only guardians have to sacrifice with 1.2.

Title That's the only way its going to be useful and not a massive waste of resources. As a focus guardian I can generate focus easy enough but only for the purpose of doing my damage moves, if the current focus defense goes live I simply won't be able to use it because it costs too much to use.

the focus cost should be removed entirely, like enure.

Do you even play the same game as the rest of us? Sage/sorc, no matter the spec, can 1v1 any class in this game WITH EASE, and if they're heal specced they can survive at least 12-20 seconds of the entire enemy team beating on them.

That load of bull**** might work on somebody who doesn't know sage/sorc mechanics, but I actually have a level 50 champion geared sage, and they are virtually impossible for any class and any spec to 1v1, and they can last a good minute 1v2 of two dps beating on them, and by then there teammates will come running to help.

so basically you admit you have no argument and that you lost the debate by posting a bunch of ad hominem.

sorc healers are far and away the most overpowered healers in this game. I see a bunch of consulars and inquis whining about lacking heavy armor, but force armor provides so much more damage mitigation than heavy armor EVER could, THAT is what needs a nerf especially, their force armor.

the fact that healers are currently designed to heal nightmare mode raid boss damage means that healing MUST be significantly nerfed if this game is to have any sort of life expectancy. I don't know why these arrogant healers, so full of themselves, don't realize this. People will QUIT and this game will go free to play then eventually get shut down if this continues.

anyone else getting a laugh out of these healers ridiculously biased replys? I know I am, I've never seen such bias in a topic before. These are the same people that use cheats in an online FPS game and then try to say its skill and perfectly balanced because they have to skill download hacks off google.

I couldn't of said it better myself. Agreed completely.

agreed completely OP. When we come up against a team full of healers we may as well leave warzone, its an exercise in futility trying to win. They stand there and heal each other and never die, be it huttball(far more irritating in this one) or voidstar. They score one point, or go through one door, and then camp just enough to win the match.

wow, you are a major ****. You seriously need to banned I doubt you even play a melee class.

Yes because you need BRAINS to avoid being cced when you're in the thick of the fighting and some douchebag throws a cc grenade or does an intimidating roar or an awe, or targets you for a conc missile, yes because BRAINS can let you avoid being focus cced, with your superior BRAINS you must stand in the back and do nothing but saber throw every 30 seconds. Just stop posting dude.

lmao but seriously jedis/warriors are extremely weak to cc and are always trhe focus target, because everyone knows we have no way to defend ourselves against it

are you joking? You have stealth, you can avoid CCs almost as well as range classes do.

Since my level 50 marauder is a fresh 50 i wouldnt know, but my knight is in close to full champion and im severely hurt by CCs much more so than my BH and sage, i dont even have to deal with CC really on those characters.

well said indeed

Yes we do need stronger resolve than range, range is by far the easiest class type to play. I would know because I have a battlemaster bounty hunter and a champion geared sage. They're ridiculously easy to play compared to a knight or warrior.

I have no idea why people like you bother making ridiculous posts like this. We are at a disadvantage its as simple as that and you can stop trying to brag about how good you are when we clearly need help.

^title knights/wars have no stealth, and are always the focus cc target for their entire enemy team. They also cant stand back half a mile away so the enemy cant see them like range do, to avoid cc and damage. knights and wars need resolve thats twice as strong as everyone elses to be competitive without a healbot and they rarely ever have a healbot, this isnt WoW with arena where its organized, this is TOR warzones where most everybody sucks and is only looking out for themselves and doesnt give a **** about their teammates. So please increase knights/warrs resolve so we dont get cced and focused down like we are now.

You're acting like every team is supposed to be major league gaming professionals. They aren't. Most teams, as a matter of fact, suck. And they suck badly. I'm lucky to even get a healer on my team, and I'm extremely lucky to have a healer that actually heals or dispels me. And the other classes, they pretty much do their own thing and ignore someone whose getting cc chained or beat down. That's the way it goes and you're lying if you say your teams aren't like that, because they are on all 3 servers I play on.