I play MMO's to PVP with my friends. No thanks.

the self-pitying drama is constant with these ones

^ This. Less of an announcement and more of seeing what you want IMHO. I've been trolled.

There is nothing Bioware can do about it. If they build a premade versus premade system and the queues pop instantly as they do now. Hell yeah, no more level 11's in the second four spots helping fight the two 50 premades on the other team. Fantastic, not realistic but sounds great. If they build a premade versus premade, and the queue times go from instant to more than 10-minutes (pretty high amount of waiting time for a 5 to 15 minute game); those same premades are going to agree not to group, and will still end up in the same match by using their brains and the queue button with voice chat. 3....2....1....queue I think you're fooling yourselves that this CAN be solved. I personally don't think that it SHOULD. Good luck. Example question: Do these "for fun" PUG-only games get access to gear?

And then win or lose expect a pro football player's salary check.

Just be lucky there's no TSA galactic equivalent preventing "terrorism".

rebind a/d to strafe i don't need keyboard turning, as I own a mouse `,1-8 I can hit with an index finger alt + `,1-8 is the same thing just dropping the thumb on the alt key other non-essential keybinds for convenient letters: q,e,r,t g,h z,x,c,v,b never quite got the hang of using shift (Spock can probably do this)

Used to think LogOut would fix this but confirmed by guildmate that he didn't get credit for games after a LogOut.

valor rank 58 atm still missing: both implants ear hands weapon!! offhand plenty of centurion tokens; i've never favored RNG for gearup i remember warhammer pve specifically where the raw number of classes almost ensured that a boss drop would be something noone wanted

If you enjoy PvP; how much excuse to fight do you need?

Don't succumb to the mindless. This is happening on Bondar Crystal as well, and not just the overpopulated Empire trying to get theirs in from the one Republic guy that showed up. There will be whole groups of both Republic and Empire standing on opposite sides waiting to right-click. But don't you dare bring PVP to the PVP zone on a PVP server, or you get a conversation that looks like this: *RESERVED WHILE I PHOTOBUCKET*

I chuckled. Bitter much? Regardless of what Bioware does in this regard, voice chat premades are going to occur. If they separate the queues for grouped individuals and the queue times become unreasonable, guess what.... 3...2....1...queueing Hey look, this game has 7 guildies in it... Instead of trying to take the multiplayer out of the MMO, why not work on those social skills, you're so sure we lack?

easy fix imho do it with medals scoring medals defense medals interception medals carrier kill medals pass completion medals ?yardage? medals ?ball carrier support? medals tailor the medals to the game; valor/comms increase win/win

let repeated gm interaction work it out i'm actually impressed that we've managed to lose at least one chronic botting warzone afk'r in the short time the game has been out other games i've played have faired more poorly in this regard i don't know what tests the gm's use to tell if the player is at their keys, and personally hope for a straight vote to kick option

george lucas crits whatever you come up with for 0; play what he tells you to and like it

Really comes down to finger space for a lot of us. To play my shadow correctly I've bound the following: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 alt + 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 z,x,c,v,b,f,g,h,r,t,e,q mouse3, mouse4, mouse5, mouse6 one move only works out of stealth could be combined with another that only works under 30%; just an example instead of testing my ability to use the right move at the right time in pvp; it's a test of how big my left hand is, and do I remember which key i put the ability i'd like to fire on i can build whatever macros i want with my g15; so i don't personally care; but for the poor or needy, ya know...

Your friends are the problem indeed. Over here on the republic side, I chuckle thinking about the zerg whining for kill trades to complete a daily.

We had one really chronic AFK'r and everyone on our server was doing the following /bug Inappropriate Player Behavior Ladygagab is AFK'ing warfronts Submit Yes I'm freaking sure, please submit I haven't seen this character in days. Too early to hope...(was a 47 gunslinger last siting, was in level 10 gear until 39 or so, was in every other Republic warfront 24x7)

* reserved for when I can check my character stats *

qft Our losses consist alot of 4v8. Our crew is an example of the 50's that can't wait till the lowbies have their own bracket.

I'm with a tight-nit PvP guild that has been looking for a game where we aren't treated as a sideline freakshow (so far not bad Bioware, and the early inclusion of PVP fixes is a first). I'm not sure I can count 10 losses this week with constant queues. It does happen as we're not the correct Meta group of Sage Sage Sage Trooper to AE bomb objectives, and we're far more likely to face a double 50 premade against us rather than in our favor. It might just be your server though because honestly my win ratio isn't that bad even pugging. I'll stop short of wondering if it's a player issue.

With the 5x buff we're getting an additional 200 valor a game. Premade queues can take a couple of minutes on Republic. Solo queues are instant. We usually wait until the buff is refreshed to queue just in case. Nothing about the incoming patch notes changes Warfront farming with Ilum buffs. As republic we have no issues getting the buff and flipping the objective. What is sad is the number of empire and republic alike pleading us not to kill the empire present "because you ****** are ruining our quest".

Looking forward to this patch. We're roughly 72:10 (last time I talked to an IMP about how many they had in /who Ilum on Bondar Crystal). This should be the zerg/anti-zerg combat I remember from DAOC with gank groups and herds of lesser organized, in a dead-lock for objectives versus kill ratio. Spawn more overlords! As far as the Valor grind is concerned, Ilum is a long way from competing with chain queueing warfronts for the Valor-rank grind. The easiest way to level/credits/valor rank is to AFK in warfronts. I haven't seen Ladygagab in a couple of days but I'm cynical in regards to the hope someone actually got banned for AFK'ing in warfronts.

i use the Leave Warfront feature regularly to avoid chronic afk-bot farmers and not contribute to these leechers' games i'm against penalizing early leavers until at least this issue is addressed

I was all ready to agree with the OP, but if the need is truly there, is there not an unofficial source already (who needs official anyways)? edit: went looking, found this: http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/21/bioware-defends-its-decision-to-not-have-individual-swtor-server/ and then found: http://www.fragworld.org/The-Old-Republic-Unofficial-Server-Forums/