I actually like the changes. It's also not like in the middle of PVP I always use force smash and force moves immediately when the cooldown is up. There are too many things going on to really do that, especially when stuns, snares, etc. get in the way. Now at least with the longer buff people will have a harder time avoiding my smash crits.

Maybe he wandered into the lvl 50 areas accidentally

Has anyone figured out how much threat backhand does? Even if we never find out, threat is really a non-factor now that we know how taunts work. It really does come down to play preference as to which spec they like better.

Not true. Taunts DO create additional threat, even when you have threat already.

yeah that has been happening to me as well.

Taunt does increase aggro, but even in immortal spec it's more than enough to keep aggro once you start mixing in taunts I can even start dancing in the middle of fights now

Just a bump, those asking for more threat need to know this.

I soloed all my class quests because I'm better than you.

Awesome this info is very useful! I’ve been doing that on certain fights that I used to lose agro on (without agro changing being a fight mechanic), and it’s good to know that my hunch was actually right.

I hope our new ability or abilities is/are something useful!

I only use it if I have the extra rage to spare. It's generally not part of my normal veng "rotation."

From another thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=292347&page=2

I personally use a crit-crafted rakata one with power for threat (51 end, 37 power, +1 augment slot). currently I put 28 def in the augment slot, but you can easily switch it to something else. I decided to use the Matrix cube for the second relic slot http://www.torhead.com/item/bQBd2p2/matrix-cube-m7-y3#comments Total Stats: +52 Strength +60 Endurance +18 Defense Rating

My problem with the light side in general is that you kill your way to some guy, killing all his friends and family, then spare his life and somehow that is a light-side decision?

I think it's just more of a gear/itemization issue. I left on the surge from my rakata tanking gear, use the power rakata relics, have over 1400 str and added ravage to my tanking "rotation". Now I have no real issues at all holding threat on a boss. I even forget to backhand at times and still hold on fine If I ever get distracted from wife aggro or the TV and lose aggro I just taunt it right away

No real rules, as long as you have no trouble surviving then more end really won't help - only for those rare times when things can go awry. Currently I'm 20.3k hp unbuffed, and haven't been in any situation in which I got 1 or 2 shot, so endurance is really only more epeen for me at this point. My str is a little over 1400 atm in tanking gear. I'm doing enough damage to hold aggro fairly easily, but I can clearly see my damage numbers higher which does help dps a little bit

^^^ this waiting for a specific number of badges to drop makes it feel mindless and much more boring. Although on the other hand, waiting for an item that never drops can also get frustrating. What are the chances a tier item will drop for your class? 1 in 4? It's not that bad.

I'm thinking the OP has to use defensive cool downs either more often, or at more opportune moments, or both. I solo tanked 8m HM EV and KP in a mixture of columi and orange gear with no real issues. Healers haven't complained of any abnormal damage either. (we switched from PT main tank to me, juggernaut MT) Now that I'm almost full rakata I can sometimes have trouble generating rage. Oh wait, there was one time the healers did complain I was taking a ton of damage, but that was when I soloed puzzle KP normal/hm. We still beat it, only to look it up later that we were doing it the harder way

I know the OP asked about veng juggernauts, but I tend to do really well against maras as immortal spec... Of course half the time I'm winning they invis away...

I'd actually like to see all the fights. I usually tank (jugg tank) so it's nice to see what I would have to do if I ever decided to spec dps.

I do it when I queue solo and my teammates start dropping out. Not being stupid, I just want the match to end quicker and get myself an extra medal or two.

uh what?

yeah this game needs same sex romance. my female warrior can't romance anyone but Quinn, but I hate Quinn

Damn apparently my guild has been doing it the hard way -_- I single tank it, and bring him back and forth between fire and ice, skipping lightning. No wonder I always had 10 stacks of some debuff and was taking some rather large hits, and the damn droids keep getting annoying. Oh well, we still killed him last night so at least I'm learning some things from this thread that will make it a lot easier in the future.

I switched some Columi pieces to Rakata last night and noticed I was taking more damage than normal. Even my healers noticed. Now looking at it my armor went up, but my defense dropped by about 2% and my shield dropped by about 3%.