Because these kind of battle end in flame wars without any winner. Here i demonstrait: ME:The reapers can basicly destroy everything. SWTOR: not true mass effect ships where primative comparing to swtor ships and we got the force we just ram those reapers into eatcher. ME:No reapers are more advance the anything even you swtor toy ships in fact even human alliance ships are better. SWTOR: not true you rely on mass relays to get around we use hyperspace. ME: hyperspace is just as limeted as you need the cordance and it still takes hours mass effect travel is instant between relays. We could do this for years and still get nowhere. And this is when we still are trying to make sense.

GOOD. Make them suffer. I really dont like hutt's.

I am not talking about player gear or cartel gear i am talking about stuff npc wear.(after all we players wear just about anything no mather how hidous for the stats) Wich faction do you think looks better? Not who is stronger smarter or is going to win the next war. just who has the looks. My views: In terms of ships i have to say the empire compleetly exterminate the republic fleet in a bauty contest(face it rep ships suck) In terms or militery armor the republic....good guys where white:D In terms of civ. i say the republic is has more veriaity. In terms of force user....the jedi got a more nice looking look while the sith are general scarefaced and depressing. corosant has a more friendy admosphere the droman chees. typhon always makes me feel calm where koroban i just want to get away from. In terms of militery bases i say the empire because they accauly seem to have basses. Instead of converted wearhouses. your views?

Best star wars quote's to end a conversation? That is a thought one there are so many. Do or do not, There is no try. There are alot of people i group with where this line shoud be stuff down there throught until they cant breath.

Darth traya can no more kill revan then a mother can kill her favorite child(wicked mothers excluded) Now compleetly ignoring that revan is a far greater combatand tatictian or force user then traya lets focus on the tiny little thing that revan has and traya doesnt. Leadership skillz. To clairfy she said very cleary agains the exile(while my male exile anyway) that she know she is not a leader. Revan is a leader. Darth traya will find her power base turning on her sooner or later and then she is screwed. Her only advatage(manipulation) is non existance because revans knows her. This isnt a battle this is a massarcar.

mandalore the ultimate. grievous is a fleeing coward. tybar zann outwitted jabba the empire and the rebels as while as controled multiple worlds. Go-to was a malefunction driod who got lucky nobody know he was a driod(or every bounty hunter would have killed him) Darth revan....i dont know or care who skere kaan is revan is simple the best. Darth malgus a sith lord with exelent command abbility. prince xixor pety crime lord.....i am giving this to darth malgus. Darth traya because she is the best manipulator next to darth sidous. Darth plagues got kill in his sleep. naga shadow> exar khun. Exar khun command a small rebelion.... naga shadow had a freaking empire.

I know sith inqisator and jedi consular are my favorite but they are the classes i have already played to death. Still you make good points. How to put this without violateing the forums extreem censor rules? I mean i can kill a child without losing sleep over it(sorry all other example's where even more crual) Inmortal i already am(after all if we die we respawn:P) Thanks all. I have made my disistion. I am continueing with my jedi consular.

Hello my fellow swtor member's. I am thinking of starting over with a new charater(bin playing the same charater to much) And i was hoping for some suggestions. Here is what i am looking for in a charater(gameplay story looks etc etc etc) Male. Capebol. Sarcastic. Inmoral. loyal. Weapons are unimportant i can fight with everything. Force powers are prefeered but uneccery. Prefeer a rise to power storyline. Prefeer a class with alot of options.(aka able to solve a problem in many different ways) Prefeer not a sith inqisator(as everyone is playing them)

1: real life gender. If you want to look at wemon there are plenty of free xxx site's. 2: sentinal is dual wield, gaurdian is single. 3: Depends, you wont actively be able hunt people until you reach tatooine even then it requires alot of luck. 4:Whatever come's naturaly. 5: see point 4.

We dont supscripe because we accauly get stuff for it(common it is eagames they always screw over costumers) But because we love and want to support the game. The extra's are nice but i dont supscripe for extra's. Never have and never will.

Zann comsortum vs the hutt cartel vs the exchange vs the mandalorian's. Aka factions that aren republic or sith or even have force users would be nice.

That depends on 3 factor's: 1: does either or both ship have players onboard? A single player is worth 100 troops. 2:is the black talon captian alive or dead? Captain ozack(i think his name was) Is capebol so is his xo(tho fanaticaly devoted to the sith you dont become a xo overnight) 3: ship weapons and shielding. My opion is: That if the imperials can get enought men aboard they will overrun the esseless. If they cant the esseless will escape(black talon doesnt have a tractor beam)

As i keep saying not all sith are as strong as the heroes you keep brining up. Tho the moff is a good idea.

Even so if you love war woudnt you fight for the one who offer's more?

Sith empire(japan) vs galatic empire(amarica) I keep repeating this. In a war of attritation the sith empire losses. The only way for the sith empire to win a war of attriation is by turning alot of the galatic empire agains itself.

And as i said: force user isnt instant win. The force is all-powerfull in star wars. But force users arent the force. Let me put this into perspective. How many sith do we kill in swtor every day(from story perspective) How many normal people? Alot. And we are plot armor wearing dimigods. How many sith and jedi did revan kill? How many did darth vadar or clone/storm troopers kill? When you think of a jedi or sith. Who do you think of? Luke skywalker, obi-one kenboi-darth sidous? Or random jedi on screen for 2 seconds who got shot in the back? Revenge of the sith showed how easy it is the kill jedi or sith. HK-47: if i see one more meatbag attacking jedi with a blaster i kill him myself. Rocket's granade's posion dart's etc all effective against jedi. There are even people who hunt jedi for sport. Let me put this into perspective. How many people you know in real life can defeat a shoa-lin monk? Not many. Now how many armies in the world can? Suddenly there not so thought. Why? Because most of us never expect to fight agains a sheo-lin monk. Yet a group of soldiers can easly kill them(unless the strike from stealth but lets not go there) The force doesnt make one invinsibol(plot armor does) Long versions short having nuke's doesnt make you a super power: having influence does. For example: russia has alot of nuke's yet most of us dont consider russia a super power. A nuclear threat yes but we dont give a rats *** about what they think aslong it doesnt invole us getting nuked. Like wise having force powers doesnt make you uber baddass. it just makes you harder to kill.

That is the enitre point: Unless the sith empire can hit several key target's in close succesion and without fail(aka humany impossibol) Target's like kuat, corosant, the emperor, every last moff, and certian target's forbidden for this topic. If you miss even one target you will have your war of attrition. You have to sirously cripple the galatic empire befor the war even start's(something the sith emperor is good at) in order to stand a fair chance. Far more likely is that lord videan(i believe the sith emperor's name is) is to simply wait for darth sideus to die of old age of have him assasinted then take over his empire. True when sith are focus they become deadly. But how many years of war can a sith endure? Even the most bloodlust driving sith will after years of slaughter consider to change side just for a break. Let me put this image into your mind: You have bin killing enemies for years, you bin into deserts, tropic's forest, underwater fights, you name it you bin there. and everywhere you go it is the same thing. the same enemies, the same planet your going to retake a few month's from now. Your only break's are between fight's and gaurd duty. Now the enemy is offering you a full pardonship of all your crime's against them, A life in luxery after the war, double your current pay. all for the small price of changing side. Now it take's a extreemly loyal person to remain loyal to something after suffering for it for many years. It is the reson why so many jedi are easy to turn. They are offered to go from servant of the people of the republic to lord and master of your own piece of land. It is easy to be loyal when everything is well and good. But every war has its traitor's and sith care for power, not bloodshed in general.

First of was not is stronger(check ww2 docementries) Second you missing the point. A: the amarican's wanted to force a surrender. A ground war in japan would have bin a million times worse. B: while the force makes nuke's seem tiny and insignificant you need to keep in mind that nuke's have different power level's likewise so do sith. For example: lord scourge is one deadly s.o.b(son of a *****) he wasnt remotely as powerfull as revan, the exile, or the emperor. But he was a sith as sith could get. So having a nice army of backstabbing sith at your command might help. But there are a few thing's about sith you are happy to ignore: 1: They got cronic backstabbing disorder. A sith cant ignore a chance for power any more then a drug addict can resist the lure of free drug's. 2: even if all sith remain loyal(and that is a very optimistic outcome to say the least) There are still perhaps a few hunder meaby just over a thousent sith in the galaxie. Compair that to trillions and i mean trillions of expendibol troop's. All it take's is one lucky hit and you just lost one of your pressue's sith. Where if you slaught the entire population of corosant you woudnt even make a dent in the galatic empire's numbers. 3: training. If you played a sith you know how difficult it is for a sith to survive training(unless you wear plot armor) First of not all sith are like darth nox or the emperor's wraith. Most rate just barely above commando. In fact many sith lords have sith as there servan's(slave's) Where the galatic empire can replace there losses(clone's troops massive factories multiple planets, loyalist) If you played star wars empire at war/force's of corruption you get a idea how much you need to conquer. Even with milleneu worth of preperating the sith empire couldnt conquer what it wanted. Instead they relied on the threaty of corosant and more importantly all those worlds hate the sith. Lets take the galatic empire: Sure there was a rebelion but most people just live there live's working and serving the empire. Now think of this: having the manpower to build and man thing's like the sdd and death star? Just to build and man it you requir thousent's of troops. It might be hard to believe but during world war 2 allies losses(including amarica's) where far far higher then axis losses. That is why i believe that the galatic empire will win. Not because it is stronger (wich it is but i wont argue) but because it simple can outlast the sith empire man for man planet for planat ship for ship. Let me put it into perspective. Lets say your sith(ingame) is getting attacked by a endless wave of weak troopers. How many can you kill befor your to tired to fight? A 100? a 1000. tillions? even if you never tired eventualy you will fall to the sheer numbers.(bordem and irirtating) And keep in mind that sith players are far stronger then there npc counter part. All in all even if the sith empire would be stronger then the galatic empire in every possibol way, they simple cant keep up with the numbers. After all 8 planets can create more star ships in a month then 4. And the number's simply add up. EDIT: i read somewhere stalin said: quantity is a quality of its own.

From my point of view the galatic empire would win. I like to point out to ww2. Japan was by very definition stronger then the usa. Yet the usa won because of there industeral might. Even(and i highly doubt it) if the sith empire was able to win every fight agains the galatic empire they would still not be able to replace there losses as quik and the galatice empire could. The only way this could end quikly. Is via assasintation of either emperor.

I am going to point out some flaw's on this otherwise great idea. First and this is very important. Dont EVER let a single person be able to control a entire million credit's ship(or for that mather anything bigger then frighter(player ships) While some might accauly have the self restaint i expect alot of joy ridding this ship be explotive guild members. Forcing players to need a full crew just to use the ship is a far better option. Second: Instead of have a 100k easy to shoot down fighter/bombers in your docking bay have it as a parking space for the players there ship. Also it might be a good idea to use the ships as guild halls. And when using the ship(moving shooter repairing etc) you need a crew to run it(gunners, engineers, pilots, boarding parties) Ofcourse no guild is big enought to forfill all these roles so you probely need npc or make operation where people control one deadly ship(always wanted to see what it was like as a ship crew) Anyway this is my thoughts on the mather take it as you will

How could anyone take the empire seriously? That is like asking how hiter/stalin/sadam hussian etc got power. Fear and control. Here is my point of view: The republic ideal is perfect in theory. Coopeation, unity, equil rights, etc etc etc basicly everyone has the same worth. Sounds perfect right? While they failed to add in human nature. Greed, arogant ,pride, lust etc. In fact the sheer amount of grey jedi(i am looking at you gamers) show how few people accauly are willing to sacrife themself for the greater good(and i dont mean dieing i mean working a **** job every day of the week because nobody else will) The republic is like a self-substaining cancer. If it wasnt for the occiasinol good guy saving the day they would already have died many times over. The empire on the other hand was very compitent. WIth the key word being was. The empire is very single minded. When failure means your death you are more encourge to make it work the first time. The sith are basicly bullies with to much power you try to keep of your back. You have to be compleetly inmoral just to survive. This work well when you are running a small tightly control pupulation. The main reson the empire is falling apart is the they have spread themself to thin. Many conquered worlds are eager to rebel, with most of your army in conquered territory your slave's see a chance to free themself. The emperor is in seclusion planting the seeds for many sith power play's. Without the emperor the dark councle loses the only thing that binds them(the fear of the emperor) Infact the entire empire is based on fear, and like many real life nations. Fear only works to a point. Once people are no longer afraid they will turn on you. For example: If you point a gun at somebody who is afraid to die, he will probley do whatever you say. But if you am your gun at somebody who isnt afraid to die you are suddenly fighting to keep control of your gun(after all you didnt expect them to fight back) The empire runs like a effecent machine when properly controled. The problem lies is that without control they fall apart.

Weapons are but tools. Your post are funny.

If you cant pick go human. Being your every day guy makes the other spiece's more interesting.

/facepalm.... The jedi consular was never ment to be epic. It was ment to show you everything being a jedi is about.

Having your companions move around the ship doing random stuff is indeed great for immersion(tobad roleplayers get the shaft in swtor) Adding extra npc is a bad idea the ship is already to small for yourself and your companions.(atleast the jedi/sith ships)