Ok, shouldn't read stuff like this late at night. So you're saying thrash is still used to get energize if offensive CDs are ready? Then I absolutely agree with this thread. Still liking to see the link to the discussion on sithwarrior.com because I'm curious.

Point taken... Can you give a link to the discussion on sithwarrior.com please? Thanks!

Hey Xin! I took a peek over on our rivals' board and saw this thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=452523 Your take on that, especially after trying out Shadow Strike heavy builds?

Hmm, would like to see results of this in actual WZ environment and against moving players and just not static dummies. I see the benefit on the paper, but liked to see numbers of fights in WZs against variety of specs (defense staking tanks etc). Also, making a 10 minutes non-stop test may lead to biases, because in actual WZ you have several fights lasting 10 secs to a minute if you while with breaks in between. Also would like to see the tests with recklesness up.

Was the air vent to first level jump removed? Took a 2 months break and seem now unable to do it..

Hey! Was asking myself if social vendor items could be augmented somehow. Thanks!

Hmm, using the healer PvE set-bonus sounds kinda tempting even for Kinetics.. On the paper you would loose some burst, but had a more fluent and sustained damage-flow.. Does the set bonus from PvE gear transfer to crift crafted gear?

Is 31/2/8 worth it then (I assume you took upheavel)? I remember trying it once and not being that happy about the force usage.

Thank you for doing this! Could you either test this http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#601rcrozrskrsZhMbZc.1 or this http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#601rIrozrskrsZhMb.1 depending on if you find the added crit, or endurance better? Gearing would be all stalker plus focus, rotation as normal except using shadow strike when it procs. Many thanks!

Very, very nice guide! Thanks for that! Are you using the build you suggest in the video for Kinetic yourself? Since you said you do a lot of defending, did you keep kinetic ward in your build?

Can I breath another wish? Would really, really like to see a tutorial on the right movement in PvP if it is not too complex! Thanks!

Just what Pedra said. Or you apply them when you died and respawn. Edit: I think maybe you can lay the discussion, whether to use a shield or focus down, with this. Shadows are giving a great versatility, so why not use it? I mean it is also theoretical possible for a kinetic to switch into force technique if needed (when worse comes to worse, which may happen in 1 out of 50 matches), to add even more dps. If you feel during a match that a little more damage would benefit you more (rushing Voidstar doors as an attacker), than defending, go for a focus, when defending go for a shield. When rushing doesn't work and more sustained damage is needed, swap to a shield aso..

I also agree that swapping from more defense to more offense during a fight is the key to win. I had a very weird encounter yesterday. I never had problems versus others in 1 vs. 1, until I met an assasin yesterday that was in full tank gear (maxing his hp to 21k with a defense stim). It might be due to different factors (me not having BM gear, not having all buffes, access to just a WZ stim or my opponent using his CDs better), but it is something that really made me curious to test. I don't have the access to gear myself, so maybe it is something you, or others might want to test?

Seems like an overall nice build, but isn't the 6 Force decrease of Shock more worth taking? I can imagine that you are kinda force starving if a fight takes longer. Question: Premonition is only for white damage too, right?

Hmm, what were your thought for the Kinetic build when choosing rapid recovery over mental fortitude?

Always forget to mention: It is for PvP . Is there anything else where the two points for Applied are better spent?

Hey! I came up with the following build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#601bIrokbskrsZZf0cM.1 I dropped Applied Force in order to take up rapid recovery. My thoughts behind this are, that since I mostly use Double Strike to get the PA proc, that I wouldn't really need the 6%increased damage, and that the small defensive boost from Rapid Recovery might help a bit more (and the slightly increase in dps too). Also, is the defensive stat from shadowsight confirmed to only work for white damage only? Is it mandatory to take up Applied Force and my build is total crap, or could it be viable? Thanks!

I would like some depth view into gear, different tactics for the different classes, tactics for 1 vs. 2 fights and if possible 'things you may not know and should now' kind of stuff.. I would also like to learn about your rotation and your thoughts about combat buff usage .

Hey! I'm sorry for flooding your video threads with questions (the videos are great, no doubt there ), but what's your thoughts behind leaving out nerve wracking in your build? Have you taken up recovery to have a more fluent stream of dmg and not just 6-9% more dmg for 6 seconds (2 secs neglected here), every minute? Thanks!

I'm still debating whether to drop Kinetic Ward or not (basically due to the fact I always ran without a shield the whole time, rendering my Kinetic Ward useless all the times)... Are the differences really notable? What skill would you recommend taking up instead of KW?

Was facing the exact same question yesterday! You will want a shield to have the effects of CT and Kinetic Ward work..

Can you clarify why a shield is needed? Is it your only defensive gear? Edit: Nvm I found out myself . Do you have any other defensive stats in your gear?

Great video! May I ask what kind of gear you're using? Edit: Is there a reason why you don't alway pop your adrenals/pots, potency, relic and battle readiness together?

Was it already mentioned that as a shadow you can force run through the fire and use resilience to get off the fire effect taking almost no damage from the fire?

Ooops, well never mind my statement then!