I think this sums it up, it feels unfinshed, whats here is pretty nice but its like a really nice empty city or amusement park.

Slow long battles dont happend in PvP and never one v one. And you and I both know that in PvP fully commited to the healing tree (which means we have literally no DPS) against an equal geared DPS class we are now going to lose that battle 90% of the time. We will never have enough energy or heat to both heal through the insane burst damage in this game and somehow also kill the other player, it will never happen. Heat management is designed to work decently for one or the other. At least with some sort of burst healing we could create a small window of opportunity to begin whitling down the other player. Without it we will spend all of our time and resources simply trying to stay alive.

So your having trouble understanding why some people may be opposed to murder? Im not sure if I understand the purpose of this post. So in your world everyone that hangs out with you should like exactly the things your like. The best part about companions is that they are all DIFFERENT.

Another stupid, yes EVERYONE has the problem of when opening your bags or any UI element for that matter it stops the rendering engine. There is a half second pause before things start moving again. I think my head is going to explode. -Phillip

YOu can but you will leave again for the same reasons, the game is unfortunately still pretty boring to play. Though some people like Ember Isle I thought it was just awful, nothing at all new same textures and mobs on an island doing the same things they did before, Ember Isle was what finaly did it for me.

You, see my above post, dont post about something you cant notice as if it doesnt exist. Some people are color blind it doesnt mean theres a lack of color in the world. The level of mouse lag in the game even after game and windows tweaks is still unacceptable to some.

Just stop it, no no its not a "its your computer thing", you dont get it because your not sensitive to the effects. We that are have done everything available to reduce it but it still lingers. Your lack of perceiveing its presense is similar to the people that run around at 15 fps and say the game runs good for me "its your computer".

Thats really what I was getting at there will be no way to actually heal through another players damage and dish out enough damage to kill them with our heat pool. I can almost live with not being able to heal as well over an extended period of time but we are practically a free kill now when someone sets their mind to it. edit: I want to make it clear I am referring to someone who is fully commited to the healing tree.

That doesnt help healers though, does it? How in gods name could we possible kill another player if its going to take every bit of heat to just stay alive against an attack, there will be nothing left to mix in DPS, we are dead meet one v one, just gutted.

What about healers? Were going to be spending more time then ever shooting our healing pew pew then effectively healing. Lots of downtime now.

Im just tweaked because those abilities were added to the tree for a reason. They had at one point acknloweldged that BH were overheating to quickly resulting in either the class being able to do nothing except white damage, or that players had to deal out DPS or healing so slowly to keep from overheating that the class pace was boring. I really like the pacing of this case and this change literally slows down the gameplay and our ability to react to either incoming burst damage or to deal damage when we need it most.

Hehe not what I expected to hear but fair enough. I just dont know enough about all the classes to know if any one class actually benefited, seems like everyone had a little bit of fun removed from the game.

What changed Bioware, at some point in the BH development cycle after thousands of hours of testing you determined that heat management was a problem for this class and built things into the tree to help deal with it. As well as having some abililities that generate no heat. But now suddenly those things are being heavily nerfed and free abilities removed putting BH back where they were at some point in the developments cycle when you had acknowleded it was a problem. What happened to the staff that made that decision, whos there now to go "Hey, heat management was a problem thats why we put that stuff in the first place, why are we now going backwards in time?" I dont get it.

Now that healers have been reeled in, and sorcs / BH dps nerfed. Who comes out on top in this patch?

6. Other [state your opinion] I guess this is a PVE nerf since Ive never seen a BH heal indefinitely in PVP when being focused by another EQUALLY geared or skilled player. Im perplexed since both the healing tree and the DPS tree are nerfed for this advanced class there is nothing to make up the difference in one verses one PvP. Im perplexed by these changes and will no longer be playing this class and since it was the only class I was enjoying after rolling 3 to 50 I will be quiting the game.

As much as I like this game I cant help but agreeing.

From what I have read on these forums you can just roll a merc then hit Trace Missle over and over and over and kill every player on the play field? I didnt even see them in the list.

Then your not a serious player if you dont do whats required to get what you want. ITs a different game mechanic than the faceroll questing systems or the mindless grinding of other MMO's. Sorry you find anything that requires independent thought a challenge and therefore needs a redesign in order for you to easily connect the dots to achieve it. You obviously agree with the OP.

Correct I am talking about a one v one senario. I agree that when a healer is not being rectally examined by melee or range DPS spammed they make very good group healers.

Like another poster said they may nerf TM but will just move it somewhere else, so the class will do the same DPS but people will stop crying because it wont be as obvious as to where the damage is coming from, which is kind of my point. People have a target right now thats all. And ignorance will soon be bliss for them.

It doesnt everytime but it can, but so can every other DPS classes bread and butter ability.

You are correct thats why they do more damage, its also why they have cc and interuputs. edit: You will also find as a healer you cant do both at the same time effectively. So if a healer chooses to try and heal through that level of damage they can stay afloat but they certainly arent killing anyone are they, they are just barely surviving. This isnt wow healing where you heal to full in a couple of casts and your back in the fight. It takes long sustained expensive heals to try and fill up that bar and you wont against a high dps class you will just tread water and lose that battle when you finally overheat. You need a decent amount of damage as a healer in this game because of the way the healing classes work. They can nerf healers DPS as soon as they buff healing, until then too bad.

Ya currently 26 Bodygaurd 11 Arsnel. Whats the problem?

Yes I bet you do but you dont get hit 3k by tracer missle on every shot from the same player, I get hit for 3 4 and 5k by all classes, its part of what a dps class brings to the table, how is this even an issue? edit: I should say by all DPS class rather.....

There you go, and I agree. Its not the damage output but the fact that other people feel they have to work harder to play their class. And I personally dont spam it, I heal primarily and mix it in with MIssle Blast, and explosive dart when ranged.