WoW does not have 10 million subs and NEVER has. http://www.ocbj.com/news/2012/may/09/blizzard-reports-q1-profit-revenue-drop-warcraft-s/ They made 250 mil in the 1st quarter of 2012... almost all of which is WoW subs (plus a little from selling WoW boxes). That is 83 million a month. That is 5.5 million PAYING subs.... IE people paying 15 dollars a month.... NOT 10 MILLION. Activision and EA can both count free people all they like... they are not paying them anything. WoW does NOT have 10 million subs (you are implying 10 million people are 15$ a month... you know you are)...... WoW NEVER has had 10 million real subs... NEVER.

http://www.ocbj.com/news/2012/may/09/blizzard-reports-q1-profit-revenue-drop-warcraft-s/ This article says they made 250 million in the first quarter of 2012. That is 83 million a month. That is about 5.5 million PAYING subs at 15/month (5 million at 15 a month is 75 million.... hence 5.5 million is about 83ish mil). They may say they have 10.2 million subs but they are lying... an counting unpaying people. WoW has NEVER had 10 million subs (people paying 15 dollars a month). WoW has NEVER had 12 million subs.... NEVER. When someone says they have 10 million subs... they are implying 10 million x 15$/month.... THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

Stuns are fine... most classes get 1 stun with a (roughly) 60 second cooldown. The only problem is getting stunned back to back. Yes... there probably should be a 10 second stun immunity when you pop your trinket... that's it. No stuns should not be nerfed in any other way.

Amen. This is entertaining watching these baddies QQ about backpeddling.

This would be false.... because I use a different macro keyboard and my movement controls are on a dpad which my thumb rests on (while my normal buttons... tab/space/shift/1/2/3/4/5/6 are mapped to different keys very close to each other that my normal fingers press). Hence my d-pad up is forward, d-pad left/right is strafe left/right, and d-pad down is back... all controlled by my thumb very naturally... and while I naturally strafe 99% of the time.... I do backpedal 1% of the time to reposition without being dumb enough to rotate my entire screen to move 2 steps and rotate my entire screen back... losing focus on the battle. I don't know why people respond to you... you are clearly of below average skill to be making a big deal about this.

There's nothing wrong with stuns... as most classes have only 1 stun at a roughly 60 second cooldown. Few classes have 2 stuns (mezzes/slows are different). The only problem is taking multiple stuns in a row. The best and easiest solution is to make it so when you pop your CC breaker... you are immune to stuns(and maybe mezzes) for 10 seconds after that. That way it is you decision when to use your stun immunity pretty much... and you don't have to go changing the entire game.

You.... you would probably lose almost every game you play. I really believe that from what you post. 4 tanks/4 healers might be a little excessive but it is not far off the mark from the best team comp. In my opinion... you probably want 1 tank/1 healer on the weakside point, and 2 tanks/2healers/2 marauders on the strongside (whichever point you are taking.... or getting overrrun).... so that you have 2 guarded healers at the strongside. I play full BM premades all the time..... playing the most excessive burst damage class in the game (full BM op... I 3 hit unguarded people)..... and when we go against other full BM premades on vent that guard their healers.... it takes nothing short of 3 BM DD to take down a guarded healer (because they aren't stupid and blow all their knockbacks and sprint around pillars). Anyone who says they can kill a guarded healer that is being offhealed... without a entire team is lying.

Sure you do pal. You've clearly shown in every post you don't. I also am the president of the United States, the ruler of the entire continent of Asia, and Mars.

I get 300k+ damage every match.. sometimes as much as 500k... WITHOUT ANY HEALER following me around pocket healing me. I would do twice as good with any other DD as far as objectives are concerned.... with the same or higher damage.

You will be crying too... when you attack anyone with a guard.... or PvE'ing any boss that you will be doing less damage than the tank. But hey... I guess your fine with only being able to kill random scrubs 1v1 out in the middle of nowhere. I mean we'll certainly never see you by any objective points attacking guarded healers or attacking high damage targets.

I am a full BM/rakata Scoundrel... and I open against full BM/rakata Jugg's/Guard's all the time.... and like everyone else is telling you... your lying. IF I CRIT BOTH Shoot First/Backblast (with all adrenals popped) I will knock a full BM/rakata Jugg/Guard maybe halfway. Yes I will win..... 9 seconds later when I can Backblast again. You do not die in 3-4 hits... you are LYING.

DD Operatives/Scoundrels are going to be absolutely murdered this upcoming patch. Nerfing the least played class right into the ground is always such a great move.... yes... it sure is. You want to know the worst nerf though...... it is the Backstab/Backblast nerf. Don't tell me increasing the damage by 5% means absolutely anything.... the CD is increased by 25% (from 9 to 12 seconds).... which is a massive nerf to both Backstab/Backblast (our best non-stealth attack) AND ACID BLADE/FLESCHETTE ROUND. The Backstab/Backblast increased CD nerf is a double duty nerf that also nerf's Acid Blade/Fleschette Round by about 25%ish because you will only be able to re-apply those abilities now every 3 seconds longer. Then they went ahead and nerf'd our 2nd best ability out of stealth... Lacerate/Sucker Punch. Then they also removed our 3% damage talent (vs everything.... you usually had a dot up whenever you did any big damaging attack). Your first 2 hits as a DD Scoundrel/Operative will be just as strong..... and then you will hit like a pillow. Your lacerates will be weak and you will Backstab/Backblast once in a blue moon. I sure hope you kill someone your first 2 hits.... because if you don't... you won't. Just delete the class please.

Do this to a guarded healer. Waste your vanish right away and still barely crack his hp down to halfway.... and then get owned whenever anyone else looks at you. Thank you, bye.

CWild isn't better than anyone. If you read his posts (over many threads in many other topics).... he is entirely dependent upon double HS'ing anyone to win. He does not attack guarded healers.... he does not attack high threat high damage targets (he just goes noob hunting). Also he speaks of a 1v2 situation where he actually uses sleep dart.... which will only completely fill someone's resolve bar... and the chances that person has trinket available are very very high. If he had any brains at all he would flash first and then vanish/sleep.... which is still a generally bad idea. Funny thing... the only person worse than him... is you.

How can anyone be this dumb. Backblast and Sucker Punch account for probably 75% of our PVE damage (your rotation is pretty much backblast, blaster whip, sucker punch, and your weak blaster attack, and vital shot. They are taking the nerf bat to both of those abilities. You are getting absolutely curb stomped in PVE losing damage to 2 of your biggest attacks as well as a 3% damage to bleeding targets... HOW ARE YOU POSSIBLY DOING BETTER IN PVE. Edit: don't reply to my post saying Backblast damage got buffed.... the cooldown got massive nerfed hence any idiot can tell you you will do far less damage with Backblast on a boss than how Backblast is now.

The 7.5 Hidden Strike CD is nothing as far as I'm concerned... I never double opened on anyone anyways and I always waited until I could get that 2nd backstab in if I wanted to blow someone away. But the nerfs to Backstab and Lacerate.... REALLY? Those 2 skills account for probably 75% of my PVE damage and probably account for a huge majority of my damage outside of stealth in PVP (which is a absolute HUUUGE loss when you are riding a guarded healer).

So your saying you have LITERALLY DOUBLE my bonus damage (I get around 660 with Rakata Stim/Rakata Power Relic/Battlemaster Relic) with BM/Rakata BIS gear in every slot (all remodded). Yet you still don't hit as hard as me because I do that damage from time to time as well.

You are lying. You can't read either. You say my BM/Rakata is crap and then say to stack power (which I do with power in EVERYTHING and power relic/adrenal) and you say you do better. YOU DON'T. I assume you mean 1100 power rating because YOU DON'T HIT 1100 BONUS DAMAGE even with Rakata Adrenal/Rakata Stim/Battlemaster Power relic (all which I have and use) all popped.... which is absolutely nothing (my power rating hits 1383 with everything popped). Go elsewhere liar. The only way you can top my damage is wearing full rakata, popping a expertise adrenal, and unloading on some non-geared no expertise noob. Great job. Your backblasts/backstabs go nowhere near 5k damage noob. I wouldn't believe you even if you SS'd because I know for a fact you don't hit that mark. You are saying my BM/Rakata is crap gear... LOL. You are such a noob. You don't know how to play at all. I kill full BM people in 4 GCD's too (if I crit EVERY hit). That doesn't mean squat in BM premade vs BM premade matches as you will take a stun/knockback whenever anyone hears your stab stab stab or shottie shottie and then you are USELESS. You are a terribad.... your valor rank means absolutely nothing. Operatives are only overpowered against baddies (you) and in any 1v1 situation. WZ's ARE NOT 1v1 SITUATIONS... ESPECIALLY AGAINST BM PREMADES. Operatives are ridiculously underpowered compared to any other class in a BM premade vs another BM premade. Every other DD is so much better than us considering you will more than likely be riding a guarded healer all game... and they have much much better tools than us at consistant longterm damage and charges/sprints/knockbacks/pulls/mortal strikes/anything other utility you can dream of. It is because noobs like you who keep coming back to the forum and claiming we are 'fine' after you beat someone 1v1 that we will always be UP. Then you get crushed in all your other matches... but hey you don't remember all those times do you.

He's lying... or too stupid to know better. I am in full BM/rakata with all power surge using power relic/adrenal. My backblast/backstab does not get even remotely near 5k damage on ANYBODY even badly geared people. Even when I crit my Shoot First/HS (for over 5k damage)... my crit backblast/backstab doesn't get remotely near that.. usually hits for about 1k less damage as however much my Shoot First/HS hit for.

Hate to break it to you but they nerfed PVE DPS into the ground as well. Backblast was like 70% of our damage and it has a massively long CD now. That combined with the loss of the 3% damage on bleeding targets..... we are much weaker now than before. MUCH.

In case you guy's aren't sure what's happening.... we've (Scrapper) been massively nerfed into the ground.... again. We got a 5% damage buff to backblast... that's it. Then we lost 3% damage to bleeding targets (on EVERYTHING), we lost 10% damage on sucker punches, and then of course... backblast's cd increased dramatically. You may think we gained energy... that 'buff' was basically stripped off by taking the energy off pugnacity. Massive overall nerfs... massive. RIP Scrapper.

Very easily. If your team has the ball and your killing anyone between the ball and your own endzone.... all you doing is putting those enemies you killed back at their endzone.... which will certainly hinder or stop your allies ability to score. If you have the highest damage by far.... you can still be noobing it up because if your not careful... all your doing is putting every person you killed back at their goal line to stop your team from scoring.

You might think that... and then you remember Ilum. Yea... these guys are on the ball. Btw stun locking may be anti-fun... but chain CC is anti-fun as well but he seems to have no problem with that at all. So is being constantly knocked off ramps in Huttball.

These scrubs never learn.... but they will also never stop coming onto forums ***** about Op's even though we already are by far the worst DD class in the game in any BM premade vs any BM premade. Operatives are good vs complete trash players.... that's it. I already rerolled Guardian but I'm just going to quit the game. Screw this game and these people.

It's actually pretty funny.... every day some of the absolute most trash players to ever play video games comes onto these forums and proclaims Operative/Scoundrels 'fine'... just because we are good at 1v1's. NEWS FLASH WARZONES ARE NOT 1v1 GAMES..... ESPECIALLY WITH ANY BM PREMADE VS ANY OTHER BM PREMADE. Such a bad TC... if I were that bad I would be too embarrassed to post anything on any forum ever.