Roll is fine except when there carrying the Hutt ball I've seen scoundrels and operatives roll off the top of the platform in the Hutt ball arena and fly literally into the end zone and score without needing to even go past the second fire. I have done it on my scoundrel. I can tell you that is ridiculously overpowered. Add in that they cant be pulled and pushed while its going off and its not stoppable. Regardless of what class you are you should still have to pass the second fire even if its rolling through it.

Ill call that name um, I bet there not as good as you think they are. Right now Vanguards and Powertechs are so not even a contender for DPS there good tanks but there sorry dps and its sad what they did to them. I personally think the nerf on the dot was the worst part of the nerf. They got two nerfs in row and this time they just out right decided to destroy Vanguard/ Powertech. I can do good damage but that's cause I am a good pvper, but compared to the other classes I cant put out. I have to work extra hard to do any damage that makes the other team sweat and the extra dot on AP might as well be useless I still find AP to be a useless ability in pvp. Waiting on dps is not good for pvp and its cost is still way to much. Add in that we lost 15% armor pen and most of our burst damage with high impact bolt and where just taking up space in a rated group that a sage would do better at right now.

At this point its null and void to play a pylon game without a shadow or scoundrel. The game isn't even about skill anymore. If you leave a single defender you cant hold your pylon against them and two sometimes doesn't even work. So your team has to either sacrifice two defenders and lose middle or lose the pylon. Your left with no options and they just stun you every time you try to recap till that's useless then they just interrupt you and restealth. They need to introduce new items for detecting stealth like wow did just items that when you get them they give you stealth detection and they need to raise the cap on the pylon to 8 seconds. if you break the cc the shadow puts on you all they have to do is whirlwind you and they proceed to cap there is no stopping them especially if there's two. Cant count the games where the whole match is a fiasco cause two shadows are just sitting behind your goal the whole game just waiting to cap your goal and there's no way to detect them. unless your a trooper/bounty hunter with a lucky stealth detection. Every other cap in this warzone is 8 seconds what is different with this warzone. Nothing demoralizes people from playing like wasting there time and there's several times I go into this game knowing that I am wasting my time to be there cause there's no way to defend the pylon.

You my friend are not correct there are plenty of free to plays that limit the speed of free to players. Its actually very common in the f2p industry

Operatives definitely dont need a buff they are still doing insane damage already. A buff is not needed.

I have to agree the gear desparity between those starting out and those that bw gave advantage too at the start aka Empire shoudl be fixed make a gear cap otherwise you take a game of skill and make it gear up and win. I really dont care if this means imps only fight imps thats a sad story. I think you will find fewer players if there isnt something done at the end of the day i dread my characters reaching 50 cause its just a long month long process of losing till you get gear it shouldnt bee that way there should be some competitveness to the whole thing not a grind fest. Grinding for pvp gear makes me want to quit it should be that it helps some but not that it controls every aspect of the game. It should make you feel better but not be so over the top that you cant even hurt the enemy. i wish the pvp stat was gone all together its a stat that is over the top and makes the game unenjoyable.

Outside links are a no go.

Let me just summurize this to the real point he doesnt know he is trying to make, He thinks that my class the vanguard and there equivalent are to powerful and he hates getting beaten up.

I loved the move to 50 but at 50 there was no thought process at all every game underestimates how fast people will reach 50 and this one did it by a long shot there bugs are crazy I was so happy to play starwars but the pvp is a nightmare, classes like inquisitor dominate everything and theres so many things that just have no real sence in existing. I would be surprised if the boxes that give you 15% expertise did anything honestly. Ilum is so boring its like a waist of my time to play it. The daily and weekly is the only real reason anyone even goes to it. There was no thought process in voidstar, if two really geared teams meet each other than no one goes anywhere and you just have this long 15 minute battle at the start of the wz that gets boring and dule very fast. Huttball is the only real contribution to the pvp that makes it interesting and even thats ruined by lack of fair gear progression between ilum and the republic. You just end up having the empire no matter what time of day always over power the republic and the empire is just left wandering when they will get a thrill from the fight other than just hoping for a real challenge. The pve is good but its not enough of it and after a while its to hard to find a group cause the restriction on lock out is to heavy, and lack of means to get people together is making it hard to want to keep playing. The ease of access is nice but half the time you find youreself stuck on the main ship with waiting with no real view to look at.

Most of you probably dont know what its like as a battlemaster, but there is no incentive to stay and fight it out if your team looks weak and there undergeared, theres no incentive to play beyond your three wins and there just isnt any incentive. The bags drop coins so unoften and the only thing that gives them too you is the dailies normal coms are pretty much useless and at the point i got to a long time ago even champion comss are near useless wehn your already fully geared. If you give me a debuff to leave a game i was probably already put in without my knowledge of losing and i probably get kicked out of cause of the lag to load into one of these games and the time to get out of the starting part your just going to make many more people angry thats the only thing i like right now about the pvp matches is that if something happens i can just leave.

The game is so laggy that sometimes the speeders on alderan dont appear and you get kicked out. Add that to your list bioware of ways your pvp is failing.

changes are needed so badly and its not just bags i think there going start losing numbers if they dont fix pvp its so retarded

If theres 50 threads then they obviously are not listening to there customers, so something a bit more noticable is needed than something that they already ignore.

I mean i only just got battlemaster when the patch came threw so i had only gotten a few bags and even then i didnt get any coins for battlemaster gear, Now i only get two a day at best if im not working most the day. and you have lowered the chances of even getting coins. Ive still yet to get a battlemaster coin from any of the bags and the warzon coms and champion coms and centurian coms are all worthless cept to put stuff on my alts. im in full champion gear so i have no incentive to do more than the minumum pvp. I cant effect the odds by getting bags with coms or anything this is a horrible system. I dont think the pvp loot system was thought out very well at all. Now people that hardly do pvp have already nearly caught up to me after i worked my butt off to get the champion gear i have.

You lost all credibility when you said 30% health was fine for 1v1, go argue to someone that cares. Your class needs the nerf or maybe i should say your class needs a damage realynment to much damage on the front end of your attacks and no meat. And you very well can get out of combat even with dots on, i leave two dots on you and i still have you vanish. Only thing i have that can pull you out of stealth after i put it on you is my explosive plastique.

PvP cant continue this way there is no balance due to population unbalance and no controls for it and advantages to some skills i would argue, the empire has launched itself way ahead of the republic in gear. The system for acquiring gear is random so hoping that you can catch up is nothing but what you can do in the game and thats hope bioware needs to address these issues. Very fast they have alienated a large portion of there players by not doing it. They also face the need to alienate more that took advantage of there mistakes and i think they need to move at much faster pace the content can wait till they can get a workable system that people enjoy. I have personally opened 30 bags with only two items in them and thats working very hard to get those bags as you have to make at least 800 point just to turn it into another currency to get a bag and then hope for an item or get another form of currency that i have to buy with another form of currency doesnt make sence and it just makes you very very mad.

people keep telling me there arent enough 50s to justify a bracket i call bs, maybe not on your server but you keep forgetting some servers are a week ahead on progression and we have plenty of 50s.

i only want the 50s to have ther own bracket i can take any other class but a 50 in pvp gear is not a match even three low levels have difficulty bringing one 50 healer down. if they can even do it. Its not possible to expect a pug team of below 50s or even one or two 50s mixed in to compete against a pvp guild run of nothing but 50s.

50s shouldnt be fighting 20s and 15s its not fair they have all the advantages not to include all there abilities, pvp gear that has expertise, health that is rediculously higher and damage that the buffing system does nothing to counter. I can take any class but a class thats at 50 there healing is crazy they can bring a near death player all the way back to full health in seconds. The battle is over as soon as i see the team on the other side is nothing but 50s. All a group has to do to just win every bg is collect up a group of 50 characters. Its not even competition.

Its your own fault i enjoy playing all the warzones with no problem, You will get to enjoy Huttball You role imp and you fail imp <.<

it discourages people from just playing for kills rather than objectives if you enjoy killing players then your reward is already that you killed them you dont need additional rewards, the rewards that are additional is ones you get for completeing objectives, If theres a bridge that we need to capture and you see this guy running away who is nearly dead but the bridge needs your help if theres no advantage to running him down and waisting 2-5 minutes of your time you will go choose the bridge if it gets you additional rewards or you will waist your time and lose the bridge and find that you like killing but the loss of rewards slows you down. No reward for not getting the job done thats what i say.

Hmm whats the odds this guy is playing imperial I wander.

I know my pvp guild is on Iron Citadel and the numbers seem pretty even, but its est and i doubt you will find better ques as this is a pre launch server.

Most of you just cant play your class i have done more damage at level 22 bolstered than anyone in my warzones i absolutely devestate anyone one on one. i think i could use another cc ability tho that would make me more capable in 2 on 1 fights

Its simple fix Imp = Fail and alot of Huttball