Guys you are talking for nothing . Its not working like this. You should read following link before talking non sense. Sometimes really i don't understand people. Be honest which one of you searched what it means. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3710215/_New_Guild_Services_Now_Available-10_25_2011#blog or

We Are Not Your Fathers is an Imperial guild on the Sith'Ari EU server. We are in our 30s to 50s, All of us lead our own diffrent lifes, working or retired; some of us single or families, some of us husband-and-wife players who plays together, some of us still students. So first we are big family and guild of mature gamers who have bonded together to seek out relaxing and having fun, while getting to know each other a little better.. We believe that gaming doesn't have to be solely about the game or the loots. But of course we love to play and we are hardcore / semi-hardcore players. So this guild was started by a group of adventuring friends, who decided to gather together, in their adventures and wished to create a family type group, that gathered together to enjoy their Star Wars The Old Republic experiences. Too search out new regions, encounter new enemies as a gaming fans... In WANYF you will find a community of mature gaming players looking to have some fun and enjoy an escape from our daily life. Most of us have family and work obligations. Some of us also have kids. Our roster ranges from Students to Graduates, Mothers and Fathers, Wifes and Husbands all brought together to unite in one common goal that has become our motto: All About The Fun, we value that above all else in this guild. Laid Back, Have Fun and no Drama with like minded individuals. If this sounds like you, please review our Guild Rules and of course our Recruiting Application. See you in game. We Are Not Your Fathers

Yes true we have couple of highly skilled and mature younglings ( one of em 22 and other one 25 ) in our guild like yoda's "Truly wonderful, the mind of a child is." source ―Yoda

We Are Not Your Fathers is an Imperial guild on the Sith'Ari EU server. We are in our 30s to 50s, All of us lead our own diffrent lifes, working or retired; some of us single or families, some of us husband-and-wife players who plays together, some of us still students. So first we are big family and guild of mature gamers who have bonded together to seek out relaxing and having fun, while getting to know each other a little better.. We believe that gaming doesn't have to be solely about the game or the loots. But of course we love to play and we are hardcore / semi-hardcore players. So this guild was started by a group of adventuring friends, who decided to gather together, in their adventures and wished to create a family type group, that gathered together to enjoy their Star Wars The Old Republic experiences. Too search out new regions, encounter new enemies as a gaming fans... In WANYF you will find a community of mature gaming players looking to have some fun and enjoy an escape from our daily life. Most of us have family and work obligations. Some of us also have kids. Our roster ranges from Students to Graduates, Mothers and Fathers, Wifes and Husbands all brought together to unite in one common goal that has become our motto: All About The Fun, we value that above all else in this guild. Laid Back, Have Fun and no Drama with like minded individuals. If this sounds like you, please review our Guild Rules and of course our Recruiting Application. See you in game. We Are Not Your Fathers

We Are Not Your Fathers is an Imperial guild on the Sith'Ari EU server. We are in our 30s to 50s, All of us lead our own diffrent lifes, working or retired; some of us single or families, some of us husband-and-wife players who plays together, some of us still students. So first we are big family and guild of mature gamers who have bonded together to seek out relaxing and having fun, while getting to know each other a little better.. We believe that gaming doesn't have to be solely about the game or the loots. But of course we love to play and we are hardcore / semi-hardcore players. So this guild was started by a group of adventuring friends, who decided to gather together, in their adventures and wished to create a family type group, that gathered together to enjoy their Star Wars The Old Republic experiences. Too search out new regions, encounter new enemies as a gaming fans... In WANYF you will find a community of mature gaming players looking to have some fun and enjoy an escape from our daily life. Most of us have family and work obligations. Some of us also have kids. Our roster ranges from Students to Graduates, Mothers and Fathers, Wifes and Husbands all brought together to unite in one common goal that has become our motto: All About The Fun, we value that above all else in this guild. Laid Back, Have Fun and no Drama with like minded individuals. If this sounds like you, please review our Guild Rules and of course our Recruiting Application. See you in game. We Are Not Your Fathers

We Are Not Your Fathers is an Imperial guild on the Sith'Ari EU server. We are in our 30s to 50s, All of us lead our own diffrent lifes, working or retired; some of us single or families, some of us husband-and-wife players who plays together, some of us still students. So first we are big family and guild of mature gamers who have bonded together to seek out relaxing and having fun, while getting to know each other a little better.. We believe that gaming doesn't have to be solely about the game or the loots. But of course we love to play and we are hardcore / semi-hardcore players. So this guild was started by a group of adventuring friends, who decided to gather together, in their adventures and wished to create a family type group, that gathered together to enjoy their Star Wars The Old Republic experiences. Too search out new regions, encounter new enemies as a gaming fans... In WANYF you will find a community of mature gaming players looking to have some fun and enjoy an escape from our daily life. Most of us have family and work obligations. Some of us also have kids. Our roster ranges from Students to Graduates, Mothers and Fathers, Wifes and Husbands all brought together to unite in one common goal that has become our motto: All About The Fun, we value that above all else in this guild. Laid Back, Have Fun and no Drama with like minded individuals. If this sounds like you, please review our Guild Rules and of course our Recruiting Application. See you in game. We Are Not Your Fathers

We Are Not Your Fathers is an Imperial guild on the Sith'Ari EU server. We are in our 30s to 50s, All of us lead our own diffrent lifes, working or retired; some of us single or families, some of us husband-and-wife players who plays together, some of us still students. So first we are big family and guild of mature gamers who have bonded together to seek out relaxing and having fun, while getting to know each other a little better.. We believe that gaming doesn't have to be solely about the game or the loots. But of course we love to play and we are hardcore / semi-hardcore players. So this guild was started by a group of adventuring friends, who decided to gather together, in their adventures and wished to create a family type group, that gathered together to enjoy their Star Wars The Old Republic experiences. Too search out new regions, encounter new enemies as a gaming fans... In WANYF you will find a community of mature gaming players looking to have some fun and enjoy an escape from our daily life. Most of us have family and work obligations. Some of us also have kids. Our roster ranges from Students to Graduates, Mothers and Fathers, Wifes and Husbands all brought together to unite in one common goal that has become our motto: All About The Fun, we value that above all else in this guild. Laid Back, Have Fun and no Drama with like minded individuals. If this sounds like you, please review our Guild Rules and of course our Recruiting Application. See you in game. We Are Not Your Fathers

first nothing special on there and lol you must learn to play team game.

No it's not just search MMO market for it.

First thing’s first and the first rule of any relationships: Always be honest and straightforward. Not only are you advised to avoid lying, but this also means you can say what you feel and show who you are. Honesty is always a turn on. If you let people know upfront what you want, what you are, then they will respect you. Next, do not commit the sin of coming across as too serious. No one likes a sourpuss or a “Negative Nelly.” Use your humor as an asset. Show people that you are not boring and that you like to laugh. Keep your humor somewhat innocent and natural. Do not force anything or make it sound over-rehearsed. Be honest about your interests, and for goodness’ sakes, don’t paint yourself as a dull - aged person. It doesn't matters a lot for me. Not about the age itself since its just a number and doesnt really prove anything about maturity. But since we are a rather social and hard-core guild, we tend to keep it around our own age just because someone around 12-13 and someone around 35-40 is in completely different stages in life and we have different things to talk about. Younger players are generally less mature than older players (well that is logical) but there are also older players that are acting even worse than the kiddies. The main reason why my guild is 18+ is because younger players are often interrupted by their parents during raids, and since we don't want that to happen for sake of our progress, we are searching for older players who are much less likely to be interrupted.

According to whom? According to what scale? Anyways for me "We Are Not Your Fathers" is an Imperial guild on the Sith'Ari EU server.

hope they can add this future.

First you start losing your customers and now your employees.. After all i guess this game is just dead end. Yea you can flame me now but you 'll see BioWare ( sorry EA ) will slowdown development in 6 months and after 1 year this game will totaly dead. "BioWare and the BioWare logo are trademark of EA International" ... after all. Would you expect more ?

Topic explains itself pretty much. Ok there will be server transfer in patch 1.3. But just wondering about guild transfer. Exactly we need "Guild Master Guild Realm Transfer" function. With this our guild members remain in the our original guilds at server transfer. And the guild bank must be transfer with the Guild Master's character to the new realm.

Hope it'll not 49.990 So lets take a quick look... Ten thousand credits is considered to be excessively expensive as a fare from Tatooine (in the Outer Rim) to Alderaan (a Core world). Luke Skywalker sold his worn-out landspeeder for approximately 2000 credits, Jabba the Hutt was known to pay 35000 credits bounty for live delivery of one of his wookiee debtors, In novels, the training of a stormtrooper officer costs over half a million credits, C-3PO objectively values himself at 43000 credits and his constituent parts as five thousand, I'm just another Star Wars fun but so guys you must review the currency and item costs.

Happy to help your PhD..

Didn't you read rest of post Monave? And EvE is sadly not pure or half sandbox. But we can say game with some sandbox elements. Agree with you Goretzu.. so it's why i listed sandbox features.

I do believe most of you have sandbox confused. Yes, there is tons of player choice, but the players still have to play by the rules that the developers (god in the game universe) have created. Take for instance, for best example, Wurm Online defines itself as "limitless opportunity and freedom, where the actions of each player can make a lasting difference.". I find it 100x more challenging than any of the Themepark MMOs I've played. Even something as simple as preparing land for building a house can be an endeavor. Lets say there were no limits for development or money making out of a sandbox MMO so an ideal sandbox MMORPG would probably feature the following: You will be able to change the world or spaces around you and all other players will be able to see the changes. For example you can build houses and decorate it any way you want. You can modify the terrain; dig, raise, flatten and sculpt the land around you. You can change the look and appearance of your avatar any way you want and any time you want during the game play. You can change it without a limit. You can define the characteristics of your character and change it during the game. You are not limited to some classes, ... You can travel anywhere in the world and explore any area. Some developer designed walls do not limit you to some pre-defined spaces. You can choose to be friend or enemies of anyone. You can choose any kind of behavior. Well this selections obviously have consequences since you may make more permanent friends or enemies by some of your decisions. You may be haunted by some factions, guilds,... because you chose to be enemy of one of their members. You can swear you didn't know but it doesn't mean they will accept it. You have a saying on the economy. The economy as a whole is player driven and supply and demand of any item by all of the players price the items and not the fixed prices set by developers. You can craft many things out of many things. You can craft unique items and sell them for your price to other thirsty players. There are no developer based quests and stories in the game. The stories are shaped by the players and you don't have to follow some specific stories to gain experience. You can interact with the environment the way you want. You can train, tame or mount many different creatures and can cook or make and eat many things out of many things. You can battle any way you want. You can learn or form many fighting skills. You can name your invented skills and teach them to others. They can be magic, range, melee,... or a combination. You can make a living of any job. You can be a thief, a burglar, a beggar, a scammer, investment banker, an entertainer, a dancer or whatever job that there is a demand for it and well other players pay for it ... or just an adventurer and make your fortune by hunting. You can become a bounty hunter and hunt other players. And that's the ideal sandbox definition. Opposite of sandbox: Themepark Themepark MMO is referred to a type of MMOs that guide player through some specific paths through having visible or invisible walls. WoW (World of Warcraft) is considered to be more of a themepark MMORPG because as a player you are limited to the class that you have chosen and you can not change it freely. Players can not travel to anywhere you want in the world and explore the world freely. There are no visible walls in the game but if they travel to the areas that they are not supposed to, they most probably will be killed by high level monsters. Players should follow the story through quests to advance and the game doesn't give the players the freedom to choose their own path. It's not all bad though. Many players prefer a themepark MMORPG over a sandbox one. That's why so many MMORPGs exist. Isn't it?

I do believe most of you have sandbox confused.

For me i wasted money buying this crap bloody **** game. Nothing works... PVE, PVP,, even damn simple Chat. and PM.... Why Nothing Works.. I Do NOT Care. Anyways GW2 and Diablo3 is coming..

Well lol bud c'mon this is non-sense.. so i wanna do dps like a marauders/sentinel as a immortal juggernaut or maybe some bounty hunters will wanna use lightsaber after your request. Anyways, let's back to the topic. First please do not copy huge shoulders from WoW or from any another games. We do not need huge shoulders, Second we are mystic and dark warriors not another droid / human like androids. So we dont need mechanical armors. Tbh I'm not talking about life support in armor and even we are not injured and don't need life support like Anakin Skywalker, at least most of us. And last one i wanna repeat myself... We wanna be iconic with in armor but again not with huge shoulders and not with android like mechanical life support.

My epeen is bigger than all of yours!! NEXT!!

the sidus legacy

Please do not add finder for Operations or at least add with some gear or achievement requirements.

I'm so so sorry but i couldn't resist .. Please go and Play something like... TETRIS