Stopped reading there. Didnt really expect so positive thread by anyone else but huge star wars fan. Nothing wrong with that though.

Go with both chars to nar shadaa. Take some gray trash with your sith alt, put it on AH for 100k, log to your republic char, buy it. In one hour your sith will receive 100k from your republican.

I think the most common answer the OP question is "Because its SW." Well for me even this didnt keep me playing. So for me...Nothing, already quit.

I do feel good and thanks for Your kind words. I wish You all the best as well

this is SO not true. I mean we cant say for sure until GW2 comes out, but from what I saw so far (and I saw a lot), GW2 will have way more PvE content to offer players...and actual PVE MMO content, which is something You will be finding hard in SWTOR. So let me correct Your statement. GW2 = MMO for PvP and PvE players SWTOR = wonnabe MMO for Star Wars fans

/clap owned.

Define here...forums? Yea. Playing the game? Hell no.

@ I never said ArenaNet cant make mistakes. We are all ppl and we do make mistakes. But as You said correctly, ArenaNet is less likely to screw up in MMO game than Bioware, because they have MMO experience. Bioware did screw up, now its ArenaNet's turn to show what they are made of.

I Mean Off

Haha indeed. The bad thing though is that everyone of my friends ofc quit SWTOR too...so they are like "You said it will be awesome and its complete trash." So now when I want to tell them about GW2 they aint listening cause I already failed them with SWTOR. Bad reputation is Bad. BW turned my friends against me! (reading the last sentence reminds me of Anakin on Mustafar shouting at Obi-Wan: "You turned her against me!" haha)

Oh I can say that GW2 is going to be great seen so much evidence for it not to be true. Anyway I did the same mistake about this abomination but Im doing the same mistake again with gw2!

Singleplayer RPGs and MMOs are absolutely different. They are anything BUT similar. Let me give You an example. Hewlett Packard makes printers. Acer doesnt make printers. So when Acer makes their first printer, it will be bad. When Hewlett Packard makes another printer, it will be much much better than Acers, cause HP has a lot of experiences in making printers. Both companies work in IT, but printers and PCs are different. Just fyi, HP = ArenaNet, Acer = Bioware in this story.

I love the thread name. It tells everything and BW needs to do something with this.

I agree with this. Rift had waiting times on servers in first few days, but who didnt. But from the bugs/issues point of view, it was awesome. At least compared to SWTOR. PLUS they were fixing issues every single day. There was always some patch fixing big/small things and they were getting actually fixed. Not like in here saying they are being fixed with this patch and nothing happens. Anyway ArenaNet has so much experiences in MMO. I dont expect it to be bug free. No. But I at least expect (and I think im correct in this assumption) GW2 to be on the same lever, or better than Rift was. Plus to the other guy above, unfortunately RPGs and MMOs are so different in so many ways that having extensive experience from RPG means almost nothing when it comes to making MMO game. MMOs are about communities, which Bioware and EA fails to understand. However ArenaNet and NCSoft know this very well and thats where GW2 is heading..to create massive MMO community.

Aye, it feels like SW allright. But thats it. And the fact that its SW didnt really keep me playing..and many others as well.

Actually I just stated the facts..but yea, Im hyped..hope the disappointment wont come as it did in SWTOR case.

Fans? What fans? Do You see any fans? I dont see any fans...fans, where are You? FANS!

Loading. Nuff said. Screw loading in MMO games. Loading sucks. Loading is bad. Everyone hates loading. Why did they do so much loading? What is always being loaded? Nothing helps with loading. Its still the same old bad loading. The more loading the better. NOT!

Not knew. New.

Yuy, I dont even have to write in here for the thread to become a flame war between swtor lovers and other mmos lovers

I wont. What ur gonna do?

This. Cant wait for GW2 which is the first game in god knows how long trying to be different and not being WoW clone.

Ok You made Your point. 2 mil boxes for 40 = 80 mil. Which leaves 220 mil. 300k x 10 pounds a month x 12 months = 36 mil a year. Which means 6 years. Which is still damn too long.

Oh. And You are accusing my theory to be wrong based on "blog". Right.

Its not just Ilum. I mean Ilum is the worst example, but 16 men operations are bad as well. But MMO of this scale is supposed to be for milions. Especially in SW universe with millions of fans. I cant believe how they could make the game in the way that cant handle more than 20 ppl in the same place without significant performance decrease.