Guardians have some issues but they are playable. I've had a few people come to me (at level 50) and say something along the lines of "One of our guildies stopped leveling his guardian because he says they are unplayable, blah blah blah, is it true?" The answer is no, it's not true. But playing a guardian effectively is difficult. Being as effective as ranged classes takes twice the work. My biggest gripe is the lack of AOE threat generation. Guardians are not OP, they are slightly under powered, IMO. But they are definitely playable. Whenever Bioware gets around to balancing the classes, Guardians will be fine. There is nothing inherently "broken" about them, but there is nothing "outstanding" about them either. For a while though, tanking multiple MOBS at once will be tough on guardians because of the lack of AOE threat generation, there's not a whole lot a guardian can do besides micro-manage to the best of their ability.

I just think it's sad that Bioware has chosen to limit colors the way they have. There are other ways to make items "unique" There are 16 million colors to choose from, every 50 shades of those (approximately) is discernible to the human eye. There are enough SHADES of colors (and for the purpose of this game, there only needs to be FOUR shades of about thirty colors) that Bioware could have a shade obtainable through SOLO, CRAFTING, PVP, and RAID play. There is no need for what they are doing now, there really isn't. SW:G ran for many years, but while it was a success in terms of profit (if barely), it was really a failure in the majority of player's eyes within the first year. If that's all Bioware is seeking, to eek out a small profit, then they will no doubt succeed. But if they want the game to increase in popularity and subscriptions, then they are going to have to start looking beyond their metrics. There are a good 5-8 years of sustainable profitability in this MMO, if they are banking on the successful longevity being tied to the color of a crystal being released every few months or every year and the design of an armor, then they have already failed. Bioware can do better, and I think they should be doing better. There is no need to limit a color, if you want to limit something, limit the stats, or find another way. It's bad enough that this game is almost cookie cutter. It's an MMO with Single Player customization options, it's limited in just about every aspect, from the ship that you have to fly around in, to the design of its interior, to armor, to the extremely limiting character creation, right down to the fact that Sentinels do not have a SINGLE ORANGE BELT OPTION in this game. The oversights are just astounding, even for a new MMO.

I have the Exactitude and the General's. Both Purple's.

Now what? Nothing, that's what. We wait. We.... Wait.

Appreciate the info. Also appreciate the repost that Bioware finally admits the White is not in the game. That is proof enough that they plan on holding these crystals in front of our noses as carrots to obtain. Ahh well, I can stop looking now it seems. Purple is not obtainable for Rep. and Amber/gold didn't even exist in Beta. So... meh.

Good luck. We've all posted so many times about this, and not a SINGLE response.

Answer: Nothing. Bioware has a plan you see, and they are sticking to that plan no matter what the players want. You will notice that the only time Bioware comments on anything is if it fits into their "plan". You will also notice that Bioware doesn't listen to the player, they only listen to their "metrics". Their metrics tell them that all is well with crafting. So they don't respond here in the crew skills forum. period. Do yourself a favor and give up on Bioware listening to us and doing something about the lack of customization, the poor state of crafting, etc. Because they are not listening. They will not listen until people just start unsubbing quietly and walking away, and by then it will be too late. They are just another in a long line of MMO developers, there is nothing special about them to see here. The game is what it is, if you don't like it, don't hold your breath for changes. Either play, or don't play, but forget about hoping for better options, more colors, crafting that actually means something. Etc. Welcome to WoW 2.0.

Hmm, What do artificers make that is BoP? Oh yeah, nothing worth making? heh.

Use Kira, and make sure that beyond her primary stats, you are gearing her with boosts to POWER. Power is an amazing stat for all your companions. It boosts healing and damage both. Tatooine is not where I had my problems. You are leveled way higher than what you need. You must be extremely under geared or are simply playing the class wrong. You should only have issues with the Sand Demon and the 3 Sith Harrowers (and I didn't have problems with either, although the Sith Harrows were annoying, you just have to interrupt). If you still can't get a grip on your JKG, you may want to start a different class and see if that playstyle is more for you. Guardian's do have some problems and they are one of the hardest classes to play effectively, but even so you are several levels above your content. I averaged about 2 levels above my content and I did have trouble at times, but you are 3-4 levels above. You should be doing just fine. (though you should be noting that ranged classes are doing the same content sometimes 1-2 levels UNDER the content). This class really isn't for everyone, just like Consular Shadow is also not for everyone. Take some time and try out some of the other classes and then evaluate which one fits your playstyle the closest. It is not an insult to admit that this class does not fit your play style. Bioware made all the force using melee classes much more difficult to play. There have been times when this class just has not been fun to play for me, and Bioware has definitely failed the "Do you feel heroic?" question with this class, as I don't think very many of us truly felt heroic when leveling our JKG's, but it is doable, and it CAN be fun. However, this is NOT a class you can play if you aren't really paying attention at all times and to all of your abilities. If you are tired, bored, etc and you aren't watching what you are doing, you will bite it, and bite it repeatedly. This class takes a lot of dedication and devotion and NOTHING will change that, not even the best gear on the server can help you if you aren't into what you are doing and dedicated to it. the only time I feel heroic is if I am paired with a healer that knows what they are doing and can keep me up and running as long as I am doing my part and keeping aggro off of them. If I have a good healer, then I feel Heroic. Otherwise, I have to work twice as hard as most other classes. Literally you have to use EVERY ability you have at times. You have to know WHEN to use those abilities, and you have to be spot on about 90% of the time. As others have said, there is very little margin for error. This class is very unforgiving if you make too many mistakes..

White is not even a color i'm interested. This is becoming a tad depressing, really. The lack of color crystals has gone past annoying, the idea that the ones like CYAN are gated to Imp, Purple gated to Rep... Yeah.

This is true. At some point the base stats mean less than the stats like Power and Defense because of the diminishing returns (+10 End or +66 to defense. Hmm. heh) You may lose a couple points in Str. say, but you add 40 points to Power, which makes up for the str. and then some. Or, you lose 5-10 points of End, but you gain 60 points of Def or Absorb. I've seen this with the implants I have now and the shields I am making. The thing is, the general public, all they see is their primary stats. And yeah, POWER is a huge stat. It's huge for Healers, and Damage dealers and even some tanks that would like to put out more damage but remain tanks. Power is a stat that almost everyone is over-looking right now. But I'm definitely following what you are saying and what I can agree with is that this makes crafted gear equal in many respects to a lot of raid gear. My only issue is the cost to us as crafters to keep RE'ing the items until we get the secondary stats that we went so that the item is tailored better. And then getting the general populace to see that all that PVP gear may not be as great as they thought it was.

So if I'm following this correctly you are saying that secondary stats like Power and Def do more than the boosts you get from primary stats like Str. and End. You've tested this with the POWER stat. But what about the def vs. endurance. If this is what you are saying, then I understand, but convincing the general population will be difficult without screenshots to show the differences clearly.

I'm betting it was Ulgo, and interesting that this post comes right after a patch eh?

I will be updating this list on Sunday so please keep them coming. I want to have it updated before Bioware walks into the office next week and I want the guilds (which I'm looking for btw) to have a chance to note any bugs they encounter tonight and tomorrow night included. If you see this thread falling off the first page, please bump it, also please encourage other guild members/people you run into to add to it over the next couple of days. I would like it to become sticky-worthy sometime next week, and keep it updated with each patch.

I have yet to see a piece of the armor from any grade 6 TH mission, and I have done hundreds. Considering the Armor is level 47 ish. I have to assume you'd do the Grade 5 stuff to have a chance.

I've gotten as far as Artifact, but I have not RE'd any of my craftable items to Legendary yet. Quite frankly I'm reluctant to even attempt it because of the sheer amount of materials and credits it will cost to do so.

Anyone else going to be raising prices? It took me a full week of running missions (and I had to break down and buy some TH missions to help out) to gather enough blue/purple materials to make some of my Artifact quality sheilds and crystals. my prices will be going up because of the stealth nerf to mats and my increased cost to gather them. Wonder how well that will go over. heh. I sold an old shield (artifact) that I had made before the nerf for 50k (augment slot, Tanking shield) I'm going to have to tack on about 10k to each item i sell to break even.

You confuse me. There is Artifact Quality (Purple) and Legendary Quality (Dark Purple). What are you referring to as "epic" So far I haven't seen any items RE'd to Legendary Quality (Dark Purple) on the GTN, but that doesn't mean much. As a Side Note: I'll be raising my prices for all my items that require blue/purple mats this weekend, as the cost has gone up to obtain them with the recent stealth nerfs. We'll see how that goes.

Can I get the coordinates for both the chest and the vendor that sells the keys? I'm going to need that when I make my 40-50 matrix cube after I get the yellow one from the sith planet, probably this weekend.

Updated as of 1/27/2012. Keep them coming. Also if you see any corrections that need to be made, please point them out to me. If you are running Ops and HM flashpoints, subscribe to this threat. I will update when I have information to update, and perhaps we can get it stickied when we have enough information compiled.

There are 2. I need a name for the one it is happening with, and the name of the server it occurs on.

Yeah, until you realize the big secret is to grind out a crap load of professions based on what the almightly holocron tells you to do. (I know, I did it) I'm starting to see the atittudes turn bad, unfortunately. (on the server). Sigh.

So have they added my gold/amber crystal yet? No? Sigh.

I grouped tonight with a sentinel that had problems with one of his quests. I can only say you are either geared wrong (like he was) or you're not specc'd right for your playstyle. My friend's 41 sentinel handles content 1-2 levels ABOVE his level without much issue. But he took some time at level 40 and geared up and spent some cash to do it.

I have everything now but the bracers. So i'm almost complete. Now I just need a gold accented Saber with an amber/golden crystal. hehe