I am a returning player looking for a new home. Experienced with Sage heals/dps, Vanguard dps, and Guardian tank. Please message and/or send mail to JODA for any further questions. Thanks!

^ This exactly. Hybrid heals are very good right now for RWZ, but the other specs are still liabilities. It is still just better to bring in other dps classes.

After server consolidations, Prophecy of the Five server has no dps Sorcs or Sages on any of the top teams to my knowledge. This includes: Aftermath, Hoth Ski Patrol, Foundation Stone, nerds, Dark Blood Gz, I AM LEGEND, Space Unicorns, and 1 inc Grass. After playing as a DPS Sage on Foundation Stone for about 20-30 ranked games, we came across 0 other sage/sorc dps. I am being forced to either heal on my Sage or gear up my Vanguard, so I started gearing up my vanguard. Sage/Sorc can do good numbers in rated teams, but lack of burst, survivability (takes more effort for healers and tank to keep them up), no AoE mez. People are wanting to bring in a second Shadow for node defense/protection, a Gunslinger, or another Vanguard.

Oh okay, well I have seen Blood Gz and I AM LEGEND in rateds, so they are for sure still running.

Casuals, Space Unicorns, One Inc Grass, Blood Gz (fatman), I AM LEGEND (fatman), and VULTURES. Forgive me if I left some off, those are just the ones I have seen so far or heard was the best from Fatman.

We try to form up every night around 7:30 pm - 9:30 pm server time. We typically keep running games until midnight or when ques start getting long or if Shino-Numa craps himself (he has an unfortunate bowel disorder).

Fun matches! That was our first night of our "second team", which I was attempting to lead. Solid group, but a really bad composition (2x DPS Sage, no combat sent, and 2x PuGs) compared to Taurell's team. Good matches against I AM LEGEND, VULTURES, and Foundation Stone.

Don't join, I wan't to keep my spot as a DPS Sage Seriously though, we need a good Vanguard and Sentinel. Join us! <3 Joda

You seem to be only considering 1v1. In group rateds, you get attacked from multiple sides. We now can only knockback 1 or 2 people vice everyone who hardswitches to us.

The fact that they didn't give a dps AC an interrupt for 8 months boggles my mind to begin with. This is PvP 101. So much fail it is ridiculous.

Bad changes overall. Force Wave/Overload change clearly lets me know Bioware has no idea what they are doing. Time to embrace PT, the flavor I swore to never bandwagon to.

Obviously people have not realized that Bioware has no idea about PvP balance. We are better off speccing our Sorcs/Sages to heals, making them our alts, and rolling PT/Mara/Sniper. The main complaint in the Class Feedback was survivability, but they nerf our Overload/Wave. If you can't accept the fact that Bioware hasn't a clue about this AC, then good luck to you. I will be rerolling PT and shelving my Sorc as an alt/daily cred toon until Patch 1.7 when they finally realize that this class needs more attention.

This is disappointing, all specs need access to this. You have to spec too deep into the healing tree to get it. In addition, the self heal is nice but I am more of a fan of damage mitigation. Ice Block or Dispersion anyone? This self heal, is simply going to be more hp to burn through. We will now survive through one more 5k crit before we drop on a hardswitch from opposing PTs and Marauders. We got some love, but very underwhelming for a Balance Sage. Seer definitely got the best from all of this, and I will be going heals due to it.

Yea, my Rejuvs crit for 1700 on a 6 second cooldown. This new ability is complete crap, basically a weaker version of rejuv on a longer cd.

You have got to be kidding me. So you think Sages have good survivability? You must work for Bioware.

So basically kiting classes who use 2 second roots like a Balance Sage/Madness Sorc would be ******* on due to only being able to root people for 4 seconds total before full resolve, awesome idea. Once a melee class got on you it would be over, 1 gap closer after 4 seconds of roots would = certain death for a ranged class. Melee classes have defensive cooldowns that last longer than 4 seconds, so they could just eat your damage up during your root and then leap/pull you and have their way with you for the duration of resolve. No thanks.

Can't wait for cross server rateds, I have a feeling that will change. In addition, your video mainly shows you 1) not being focused by more than 1 person, 2) fighting a 15k Sage, 13k Sage, 900 expertise apponent, and more undergeared players 1v1. Not very impressive at all. Look for Casuals and PKers on Pot5 when season 1 starts, they are some of the best teams on our server and they don't waste time with dps sorcs to my knowledge. Not saying you are a bad player at all, but your video does you no justice.

You do realize numbers mean very little in competitive RWZs right? It is about burst damage, utility, survivability, and coordination. I do around 700k damage and 200k healing in regular warzones depending on the length, but get wrecked against 2600+ teams in RWZ because they burst me down in about 5 seconds even when I have a guard on me. We have no damage reduction abilities like PT bubble and Mara bubble/vanish. The only way to survive as a Sage dps is to hang far back and peeling off of your healers, while completely ignoring nodes because if you get too close you get grappled and destroyed in only a couple GCDs. Can Sages be effective with the right comp? yes. Is it more logical to bring 3 button monkey Vanguards in to do undeserved burst damage? Yes

Replace the DPS Sage with a 2nd Vanguard or Sentinel. Swap your hybrid tanks, have 1 full Guardian and 1 hybrid Shadow. 1 Sage healer and 1 Scoundrel healer, the bubble and pulls are nice.

I just rolled a Gunslinger out of boredom, and entered a warzone at level 11. I am criting people for 3.8k, while my full war hero Balance Sages highest crit is for 4.5k. Is this working as intended?

I agree about us not having burst, and that is fine as long as we get some survivability. Most good teams that I have tried to play on already have a Sorc Healer and do not wish to bring another Sorc DPS because we require the same amount of peels/tank attention as the other healers. I can't seem to convince people to bring a Sorc DPS over a Marauder because they do just as much damage, more burst, and require less team defense to sustain. Is it possible to have a good Sorc DPS on a good rwz team, yes. Is it easier and more effective to just bring a good Marauder or PT instead, yes. DoT pressure can be countered by cleanses, pure burst damage can't.

Healer Sorc, Disc priest yes. But DPS Sorc no, more like Shadow Priest without dispersion, or even Affliction Lock without soul link/port/fear. So I guess we are Glass Pressure Players? When our dots can be dispelled easily. Exciting. Affliction Locks are pressure play classes because of Unstable Affliction, but we have no such ability and our "pressure" can be cleansed.

The point people seem to miss is that most people don't care about wins and losses in preseason, they care about getting the gear for season 1. This is preseason, a time to gear up, build comps, and work on team strats/chemistry.

Not necessarily, I just feel that we need one or the other. More survivability or more burst, I don't care which. In addition, mechanics can be different and have the same results, so I don't understand where you are going with that. Just because a ranged Glass Cannon has a ranged mechanic(s), doesn't mean a melee Glass Cannon that has a melee mechanic(s) should do less or more. A good example of this is Operative Healers vs Sorc Healers, completely different playstyles and mechanics. Is there any reason for one to be better than the other?

By your logic, PTs are a hybrid class because they can guard, so why do they have the highest burst? Mauraders are acceptable by your logic, so no beef there.