Really? Really??? You people are complaining about Operatives again? Really? All of you complainers are what's wrong with this game. Stop complaining about such stupid things! Fools... I swear.

Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion though.

Well firstly I know because I compared the two, I compared the feats of both. And, Vader has way more impressive feats. Revan was okay.... for his time, but if Vader was 80% of the strongest sith lord to ever live, (And I mean literally Palpatine could squash any other sith no sweat) then do you think Revan is more powerful than Vader? Let's be honest here, Revan was good at one time. And I can see why people loved him (If you've played KoTOR 1) but at the end of the day... He's really not remarkable. He may be a big fish in a very small pond.... But in sight of everything, he's weak. Especially when we are comparing him to Vader.

Okay, why do people ask this question if they are one sided about it? This has been done so many times before. Revan could not use both sides of the force at once, and to be honest, he never mastered either one. In all honesty, Revan was pretty weak when it came to force powers. He was really skilled in lightsaber combat, but compared to someone like Vader he'd get squashed. There is nothing, and I mean absolutely NOTHING that says otherwise.

Yeah, i just never think fast enough, lol it's kinda funny, i'll vanish and the dots get me. But although i've been saved a couple times by a well planned heal, for the most part i've been killed and probably laughed at for it. I love your idea of acid blade. It would be alot better.

Well... for one, it achieves getting to our targets faster... And why would commandos or mercs need a gap closer? They aren't melee. I think the problem is, almost every class (Some that have more survivability than us and I mean waaayyyyy more survivability than us) get a gap closer, and they get knock backs. We literally have to work harder for the same results. Where as, other classes do not. If an Operative doesn't put acid blade on all of their hidden strikes/back stabs, then we are pretty much screwed. Granted it's amazing, but the fact we even need to press an extra button for that is ridiculous. Then the only way we can even use it is by being behind our opponent. That's to say, we don't get pushed back or leaped on before we get there. The only thing we really have going for us is the stealth factor, and we can pop a heal if need be, but that never goes well in a middle of a fight. We can also vanish, which is amazing! But, i've noticed, i use it more as an escape than an offensive manuever. And half the time, it doesn't even help lol.

Well... As it was said earlier, Sidious literally moved faster than their eyes could see. AND they were a great strike force hand picked by Windu himself. Worst jedi? Most certainly not.

Yeah that's what I did last night. Can't stand to play a game where my favorite class is nerfed because of "measurable statistics" that cannot be shown.

/thread. Well said man.

Sith: Palpatine He accomplished more than any other sith, BY himself, with no trinkets. Jedi: Luke He rebuilt the jedi order and becomes a god of the force. As for the coolest, Exar Kun, Qui Gon, Darth Bane, Darth Caedus, Meetra Surik, Mara Jade, and Obi Wan. At least in my opinion.

You think smugglers/IA's are the most played class...? Hopefully you don't really believe that. If so, then you're very mistaken. We are the least played class.

We aren't... If we did then we'd get nerfed again, we aren't allowed to kill other players in pvp. It's forbidden. It's been said by George or w/e his name is that the reason we get nerfed is because of "measurable statistics" that show if there is a "team of operatives" (And i'll be damned if I have ever seen one of those... I don't think they exist) that stun lock people to death they won't be as likely to resubscribe. Pure BS. Everyone that has ever said "Operatives are overpowered" after the first nerf, has NEVER EVER been able to prove it. We have to work harder for our kills, and are easier to kill ourselves. I guess we just put faith in the wrong company, and we damn sure picked the wrong class.

/signed I would be really happy to finally have a gap closer on my operative that keeps getting nerfed for no apparent reason. I appreciate your support man, and thank you for coming up with such a great idea.

yeah.... Seems like Operatives were made just to get nerfed to hell and back. It's insanity... One of the most enjoyable classes in the game, and no one wants anything to do with any Operative because of all the bs. I don't even think this one was necessary tbh. Like why nerf shiv for 2%? Seems like it's just a sick joke lol.

I'd say play with what you're comfortable with. Coming from a lvl 50 Operative and a lvl 50 Gunslinger (Basically Gunslinger=Sniper) Gunslinger is really immobile while he's fighting, but for me at least he hits like a truck. And it makes him really good in pvp and pve alike. Now the Operative (With the nerf coming up idk if i can say this for much longer) but it is also very good for pve and pvp. And to me it has alot more utility than the Gunslinger/Sniper, since I can be really mobile, and heal myself every now and then. CC's are also a good thing for pve. Which the Gunslinger/Sniper lack IMO. Hope that gave you some insight. Have fun.

Well... It really is ridiculous trying to get up to speed with the gear everyone else has... I mean i've opened about 48 champion bags and haven't even gotten one piece of gear. On top of that I have only been able to get my two pieces of champ gear with the commendations lol. But I am doing better in pvp. At first it was ridiculous... For anyone wanting to lvl an alt and pvp with him... It's truly suicide. And as someone else pointed out, that the new "Hero" set will make it even worse.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion I suppose. But idk why his face wasn't showed before... Maybe because he was infiltrating the republic and jedi? That's a pretty good guess, but I guess that may be too smart to work... Oh wait. Windu defeated Sidious in a duel "End of." But he still died by Sidious. And it was a rouse, if not then how come after Windu got his hand chopped off and was vulnerable, Sidious unleashed all of his power.... Oh that doesn't make sense either for some people. Bottom line, Sidious is the most powerful, and I personally believe it will always remain that way. Others, just don't want to accept it.

Did you not hear anything he said? "Oh, I'm weak.... Anakin, i'm dying... Please... I... I... Cannot hold it any longer." YET he was still shooting lightning at Windu. Plus that was most likely his real face.... You know, since he was the most powerful dark sider of all time... And the darkside corrupts your physical features just as much as your mental ones. And Sidious was really into sith alchemy. Yeah sure all you want. It doesn't change the fact that whether Anakin was going to turn to the darkside or not, Windu was dead the moment he stepped in to arrest Sidious.

Windu was dead the moment he stepped in the room to arrest Palps. Although he got beat in a lightsaber duel... Do you honestly think that Windu would be able to kill Palpatine? He could of easily killed Windu with some force powers. But he was acting to make it seem like he was going to die to sway Anakin to the darkside.

I'd trade Corso for T7, Yuun, or a Republic type of Scorpio... Now that'd be awesome.

Nah i totally agree, i love when i can make my own decisions. But i was just letting that guy know... Just because there is a game where there is an alternate ending, doesn't mean the whole character is non canon.

I don't mean to burst your bubble... But that whole arguement that "Galen isn't canon." is false. Let me ask you.... Do you believe that Revan or the Exile is not canon? They each had a game about themselves.... And there were alternate endings.

Deviss, when the emperor was shocking Luke he was torturing him. He knew Vader would turn on him, and he knew Luke would be a much more fitting apprentice.... Hence why he wanted Luke to strike him down when he was on his throne... And that's why he didn't just initially kill Luke... He knew Luke would be the best apprentice (Afterall, he is the ONLY sith lord to not find an apprentice that could even remotely challenge him after the rule of two was made.) I hate when people beat this dead horse... Palpatine will always be the most powerful, i mean Vitiate or w/e his name is just doesn't compare in my eyes. I know most people don't want to admit that the guy who beat Yoda in a duel. Killed Windu, and Vader. And the guy who overthrew the republic and almost eliminated the jedi order forever is the most powerful sith lord ever. I get that, but has anyone actually tried to look up what he could do? I tell you one thing, I used to hate the emperor. But after getting some knowledge about him, I realized just how powerful he is. And I respect him as the true sith emperor. Although my favorite will always be Exar Kun, the most powerful and the best is Sidious.

I so want to post this to anyone that says otherwise... I don't see why it's so hard to understand, that time is the most major part of an MMO. It's never complete, and it will never be completed. We are the driving force behind what the MMO becomes (Unless the company that is running it is foolish.... Which most are.) Great post man, with only a couple sentences you said it all.

Sidious would defeat anyone from this timeframe i'm a afraid...