Why? People have a nature of being competitive whether it's games, sports, or whatever. If you were the NFL Commissioner, would you take out tackling in the NFL because it's "too harsh" or "too rough"? Your post really makes no sense. If it's ganking you're worried about then there are level gaps for PVP that you can invoke, but to take out PVP all together?

Oh I agree with ya here. I like walking around solo (stealthed) and finding people to fight. Or taking maybe 5 guild members out and go looking for trouble.

I am simply trying to understand how and/or why people want to bash open world PVP, but then they roll on a PVP server. Then they complain about getting ganked, and then start bringing up ridiculousness about how "a majority of MMO gamers" don't like open world PVP. Why did they roll on a PVP server then? Just to complain? There's no reason to do it when they have PVE servers that have arena-style PVP. The entire thought process behind this is completely ludicrous.

You're speaking for everyone? The entire MMORPG community? Nonsense. You're speaking for a "select group of people" that don't have alot of time to play because of family committments or whatever and don't want the hassle of getting ganked in PVP combat. Those select people do not make up the majority of players in the MMORPG community. 1. You have no proof of hard numbers. 2. You're making assumptions because of how YOU are against open world PVP so others must be too. 3. There are millions of players in the world that play MMO's. You cannot possibly speak for even 25% of them. There are so many different styles of play.

You keep bringing Warzones back into the picture. I understand that part. I'm talking about non-warzone pvp. There's no reason to do it.

Again you aren't making sense, because I've seen level 20's and 30's kill level 50's in Warzones. Obviously the level 50's have MORE abilities and BETTER gear but yet player skill prevails on lower levels. In fact I watched this lower level Scoundrel absolutely destroy higher levels on Civil War.

PvE'ers roll on a PvP server then complain and whine about getting ganked. Mind = blown

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So if I kill people to get rewards such as credits and/or an item or even a rank on a leaderboard then I am a carebear who kills PC's instead of NPC's? Your logic went that way ------------------------------------------------------------->

So how do a majority of people feel since you obviously can speak for all of them?

Did someone poop in your cheerios?

I also find it funny how everyone wants to PVP when everything is hunky dory...AKA Huttball or those Arena-style PVP matches. Example: You have time to buff up, get your stims ready, and be prepared to fight in the Warzones. There's absolutely no risk, no danger, nothing. Sorry but the Warzones get incredibly old and boring doing the same bs over and over. Now in open world PVP, you are questing or running around killing mobs and bam, you get killed by a player that was coming up behind you. So be it. Write their name down. Go hunting and look for them. Open world PVP brings the adrenaline rush of not being safe anywhere out in the wild where you can get facerolled at any time for any reason. Thats why we like open world PVP. It makes the game more fun because there's a hint of danger in anywhere you go. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with ganking a level 1 as a level 50. Now if I'm level 50, and I get attacked by 4 level 30's and I can kill a few of them before they kill me then that's an accomplishment and it's still a win for me in my mind.

It's amazing how some people are completely against open world PVP. I assume it's because of getting killed by someone higher level than you. Can't you just write their name down, level up and go kill them later?

Not true. Please don't start this whole "a true PVPer needs..." crap. lol really?

Why do you need a reward for doing a quest then? Why have PVE rewards?

Quick question because I don't know. Aren't there Warzones on PVE servers also? If so, why have PVP servers then if people want to rid open world PVP? *confused*

I haven't done it yet. I eat my own words then I guess. So it's an open world pvp setting where you get rewards for killing other players? I'm not talking about Warzone dailies. I'm talking about some kind of reward for killing a random player walking around in Tattooine or something.

An easy way to solve the ganking pitch is to make open world PVP have a level limit. Like for instance you can only attack someone within 8 or 10 levels above or below your level. This solves level 50's running around ganking level 20's or even level 10's. And maybe full item looting not a good idea in this game, but some kind of item looting is. Make it so it's dangerous to be out in the wild alone for fear you'll get killed and lose an item. That makes it all more interesting. No?

It's not that PVP isn't fun.... ...it's just there's no reason to do it other than bragging rights. There's rewards in PVE. There's rewards in crafting. There's rewards in Warzones. There's NO rewards in open world PVP. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Kaput. It's a good thing I'm not a developer because I'd make open world PVP with full item looting, and then all the cry babies would come out of their cribs.

I have mailed 50k credits or so between alts figuring out what main class I wanted to play, and haven't had a problem yet. *knock on wood*

Troll elsewhere. Srs.

Apologies in advance if this is the wrong place to make this thread, but didn't know where else to go.

Here's the issue. I currently play on Helm of Graush, and have made a few classes as I'm searching for a class that I enjoy and fits my playstyle. The problem is, as I reroll to try something new...now there are barely any low leveled players out there now as a MAJORITY of them on Helm of Graush are level 30+. Granted there are maybe a handful of lowbies but not many. This makes finding a group for Heroics and especially Flashpoints not happening. Any suggestions? I could roll on a new server, but the populations are "Light" on those, and I want to be where there are alot of people.

SWOH-TOR...SOW-TOR....SWOOTOR...grrrr I don't know...

Ion Gas Cylinder seems to have more to offer.