As far as the hood goes.. for those WoW lovers, I'd love to know why, after 8 years, the tailors in the game are still unable to make a cloak that doesn't tuck into my belt as a mage. And for that matter, is it that difficult to cut a slit in my tabard, so my drainai doesn't have a goofy looking hump over his butt? Just curious...

No, I think you are correct. Hopefully this will be revamped, because it is a pain. Same with searches. It would be helpful to search without having to select categories first.

Bad behaviour? What? It's been out LESS THAN A WEEK! It's THE HOLIDAY! I wish you people that expect a game to be on par with another that's been out for 8 years within the first week would really keep your words for once, and QUIT. It would be a great relief to all of us staying to see how this game improves.

Alpha release? LoL Some of you can't possibly have any experience in any other MMO, if you think that. Probably joined WoW during LK, where ezmode reigned, and feel that any game that doesn't rain gear on you from on high is a failure. This game has issues. It's incredibly polished for a few release however. Plenty of content, much better quests than WoW, and so far, wife and I are having a blast playing it. Was great to beat a world boss with a raid at level 22.

He is? That isn't a list. It's an in-cohesive babble of whining. A useful list would be something like: "When I enter area X and Y, I get tons of lag, I don't it elsewhere." "I think it's too difficult to get to another world to join say, a world boss. I have to go through 6 zones to reach the group." You know.. actual useful, constructive, and readable complaints. Not whiny, angsty gibberish.

All I am wishing for, is that posters like the OP and his ilk follow up on their threats.. and leave! Go already. Please.

It's like.. been out a week. Do we really need to start the content posts? Seriously?

LFG was a cancer in WoW. Nothing like a bunch of non-dungeon-finding people who couldn't dps their way out of a wet paper bag, know mechanics, or any of the fights, who wanted to run dungeons in 10 minutes to reap epics with no threat or worry of dying.. ever.. and who quit at the first sign of adversity, and yet had the gall to harass people for their dps or playstyles, because there was no repercussion or reputation to worry about. No.. I don't miss it much, and it will be a sad day when they bring it to this game.

I agree with the exact opposite of everything the OP said. Otherwise, great post.

I don't think "broken" means what you think it does. This game is incredibly playable. If there is a PvP delay in abilities, I'm certain it will be looked at in greater detail. Hoods.. they break the game? Seriously? As far as that goes, it's how the single piece is designed. You can't put the hood down, any more than you can put the hood up in a piece drawn with it down. My wife and I are having a blast, so far. P.S. I am not saying the game has no issues. It has many that need to be worked on. Currently, there is a DPI bug with gaming mice that makes the camera veer off in a random directly. It's frustrating and sometimes fatal. But it's a new release. Been out a week. I'm confident that with the two companies involved, this will receive constant and plenty of attention and updates.

Lots of complaints about this game not being WoW. Look.. many choices were conscious decisions. I think the LFG tool was a cancer in WoW. I'm very happy it's gone. Lots of whining points though. Many not fair. No one seems to have any real idea the astounding amount of work is needed to make an MMO. For example, the complex models used to test every class running quests in every area, so they can tell if certain quests or bosses are too hard for some classes and not others. And people are worried that there isn't a barber shop. Hardy-har. As far as the voice-acting, whatever... they had 320 voice actors, doing the over 250k+ lines of voice for the over 4000 NPCs. What did you expect.. 4000 voice actors, each doing a single NPC? You are, just like so many others, just complaining to complain. Many of your points are ridiculous.

It's astounding how much faster your group fills when you say "Need 1 tank and 1 dps for flashpoint x!", than when you say "dps looking for X!" Everyone wants everything handed to them now. WoW has spoiled too many people. Instant groups, instant rewards, no challenge thank you, just want to pull my uber gear vending machine handle and walk away 20 minutes later.

How about trying to utilize the tools already in place. You know.. flagging yourself, with the ability to set a comment. Or start a group. It's amazing how often I see 12 people spamming "LF group for X!".. all for the same place, for 30 minutes. No one wants to take the initiative to actually start the group. My wife actually started a raid yesterday. Was great, never saw her do that before. She has little game experience, but within 20 minutes, had an entire raid. In 30 minutes we beat the world boss. Good times. Take some initiative, and stop relying on everyone else to do all the work.

Yea, I'm not too worried about it. Years and years on the WoW forums, of people's faces being slapped, threats of people taking their 215 friends with them with they leave, and yet.. their subscription #'s just grew. That.. and the % of posters is typically the very vocal minority. The majority don't know nor care about the forum.

For what it's worth, a tiny minority of the playing population hands out on the forums. Many people are not even aware (or cares) that they exist. And the LFG.. good choice on their part, I hope they never change their mind, and never add them. They were a cancer to WoW. A LFG channel, sure. But no instant poofing to dungeons, and no cross-server stuff.

That would be an excellent expansion. Dozens of worlds that are just worlds.. no specific quests, except perhaps one to fetch something off of it. Ruins, critters, resources to gather, some with terrible atmospheres.. wouldn't mind that all. Ala Mass Effect, or going back a bit, Starflight. I loved that game. But as Skyrim proved, space doesn't necessarily mean great content. I love the sheer amount of content packed into a smaller land mass.

I don't know.. I see plenty of people everywhere I go. Maybe this is an issue on some servers, but clearly it's fine on others. We filled a raid for a world boss around level 22 or so, without any difficulties at all.

There is a tool - you can mark yourself looking for a group, with comments, and see others who are looking, and read their comments. I do think a channel dedicated to LFG would help. But other than that, I don't think much else is needed. Also, I was just pointing out all the issues that occurred with WoW - this game would have some of those same issues, and probably some different ones. But all in all, it causes far too many issues than it fixes.

Bumping for first page goodness.

It was? Open how? You were still limited to the zone you were in. Just because they were adjacent to each other, instead of different planets, doesn't mean it was any different. If you swam across the river in Elwyn at level 3, a spider would kill you in 3 seconds. It wasn't open to you unless you leveled up. Perhaps it seemed "more open," but.. it really wasn't.

I keep hearing complaints about the lack of features this game has, as compared to a "modern MMO in 2012." First, let's not kid oursevles - people are talking about WoW when they say this. One feature asked for is LFG. Well, for PvP, I agree, it would be nice. PvP is different than standard PvE fare. But otherwise, I think LFG is a terrible tool, and made WoW much worse off. - People unable to find the dungeon after a wipe. Because they never actually went to the place before on foot. - Exploring was a thing of the past. You could complete the entire game while hanging out in your main city, while engaging in meaningless chat about Chuck Norris, or walking mammoths around the cities perimeters. - Once quests were moved into the dungeons, even LESS reason to explore. No need to go pick up quests for a place. NPCs conveniently all wait for adventurers to check into the dungeon. - Content dumbed down tremendously. From pre-LFG days in BC, where content was challenging, and you felt like you earned the stuff you got, it went to epics tossed around like candy. You could run a new dungeon 3 times or more an hour. Now, the latest content (including raids), are demolished the day they are released. It's like an epic vending machine. - Gogo! The dungeons went from a social affair, where you could help other players, chat, and have fun, to some aberration of the "gimme now!" crowd, where the point was to go as quickly as possible, ignoring things like healers mana, people trying to loot things, etc. Very discouraging and frustrating to run groups with these sorts of players. - Fostered a quitter mentality. I recall early WoW, people stuck it out. You wiped 5 times in Strath? You were in BRD for 3 hours? That's ok.. people stuck it out and beat it. They expected wipes, because the content was not as easy. After LFG, and the dumbing down of dungeons, any wipes was considered instant failure, and people would leave. In dungeons, and in raids as well. One wipe? Clearly this raid or group is a failgroup, and I am leaving now! Horrible attitude, and drove me nuts when I ran raids, and I had keep replacing these impatient "gimme now!" players, who quit at the first sign of adversity. The LFG also made it so it snowballed. The more Blizzard caved to these players wanting everything, and wanting it now, the easier the content got, and the MORE this occurred. Culminating in the laughable last raid where many guilds beat the entire raid and last boss on the first day of release, on every server. And how quickly those players are saying "omg, where is the content?" again. I hope they do no cave to these players. Perhaps it may mean lower subscription #s for them, but the people that won't stick around, are exactly the sort of players that made WoW so unpalatable as it went on. I've already encountered some of those players here, and I can only hope that no dumbing down of the game occurs. That they DON'T add a LFG feature. And that these sorts of players will move on to pandas, or something along those lines, keeping a more dedicated, non-quitting, helpful, mature playerbase, that actually enjoys playing the game, not running virtual vending machines for epics.

Dungeon finder was horrible. 1. No one could find their way anywhere, once the finder was introduced. "Hey, how do I get back to the dungeon?" after a wipe was common. So very sad. 2. No one explored the world. No need to do quests or do anything in the supposedly massive world. Just hang out in the major cities, engage in pointless talk in trade chat while waiting for your next LFG dungeon. 3. Dungeons were massively dumbed down. I recall that stupid dungeon in Wrath that sort of led the charge. Took maybe 20 minutes to do, was easy and beatable on heroic with undergeared players, and epics were handed out like candy. Only went downhill from there. 4. Players who already were fairly rude, became even nastier. No repercussions for your actions. Poor play, ninja-action, you could do anything without any worries. Perhaps some of you don't recall prior to the tool, that you could build a reputation on a server, good or bad. You were a good player? Solid dps? Great tank? You were sought after. You were a ninja? A tool? Someone who didn't enchant anything, and didn't research a thing? Harder to get a group because of your reputation. That was great. Accountability - it's nice when it's there. 5. The new raid finder in WoW is a joke. Lesser gear, ezmode everything, rude players.. it's like a FPS instead of an MMO. And it shows how these sorts of things progress. Yes, many people DO like that sort of thing. Because they are the FPS players, the pokemon people, the console folks who want instant gratification. Maybe you are one of those? Well, I can only hope they don't cater to them. They'll take a smaller subscription base, but have a dedicated group of mature players who like a challenge. Instead of the typical "gimme now, gogo! omg can't you hurry this up?, lol your dps sux!" crowd you typically see in WoW now. Oh.. and I forgot the worst thing brought on by WoW LFG - the quitter mentality. One wipe and done, because if you can't win instantly, obviously it can't be done, and it's not worth your time anyway.

And I hated it. See how that works? Personally I hope they never introduce a dungeon finder. PvP finder is ok imo, it's not quite the same thing. But dungeon finders only intensified all the things wrong with WoW. Raid finder is doing the same thing.

Bumpage, as this issue is driving me mad.

What sorts of things you feel should be "standard" in an MMO? I don't think they WANT some things that other (i.e. WoW, since that is what everyone really means), MMOs have. LFG tool? I disliked it, though it made WoW quite a bit worse. That imo, is good riddance - I hope they never add it, and I further hope that its exclusion was a conscious design choice. I also hope they don't cater to the masses like Blizzard did, and they keep those sorts of things out of their game, if they don't want them.