While as a Vetren MMO player, I am enjoying this game...but as alot of posters here have said that at 50 there is only so much to do. BUT...this game has already given more in the first 4 months then wow did in the first year. If people are leaving already stating they are bored...they have absolutly no clue about how MMO's work. To expect a company to have 2-3 years of content sitting there is a little much to ask in the first few months. Each patch this game is getting better...have a little patience...or quit...we will see you back in a couple months.

I see that happen alot actually. Force leap into the middle of a pack with the strong targeted...click smash and get knocked back and smash now has a cooldown without putting the debuff on the mobs.

We do not need for our aoe's to cost less. We do not need more threat abilities...what we need is for the abilities to generate about 10%-15% more threat then what they currently do while in the tanking stance.

wow...seriously? When a dps'r or a healer start that nonsense...i just simply ask them...roll a tank and then you can tell me how to do my job. The problem with most dps'rs is that they have been so use to face rolling for so long because of WoW they seem to forget that as much as it is a tanks job to get and hold threat...it is equally responsible for dps'rs to watch their own threat and not just think that they can AOE every single pack the group comes across, and if they draw aggro...We got a bad tank. Groups are ment for each and every person in the group to do their job...not for a tank and a Healer to carry the scrubs along to get loot.

NO NO NO NO NO...play the class you picked with the spec you picked. if you do not like your spec...respec...

I blame WoW for the complaints I see about this class. Easy mode tanking is for BH...go play one of those. For Tanks with skill play a Jugg. I am 41 and have no problems holding down large packs of mobs...you have to learn to position them...use LOS and you will do well.

I keep seeing all these posts about I am Quitting and I just have to laugh. Where any of you there when Wow was released? When all the x-EQ players were saying the same things. Open world PVP? I guess Wow has awesome open world PvP too eh...only open world pvp i have been seeing in either games was ganking of people 20-30 levels lower then themselves When wow was launched there where ZERO battle grounds...the bugs made the game all but unplayable for 2-3 months. There was zero badge gear, there was no modable equipment other then enchants. The crafting system was broken for a lot of the different trades, resource nodes where underground, up in trees, floating in the air. Go back to wow...let us who have been waiting on this release to play and enjoy it for what it is and help the developer make this game great.

Do NOT CHANGE the JUGG. Our Damage is fine...our tanking ability is fine...it is the mass perception of people thanks to WOW that makes them feel Juggs are not up to par. Learn your rotations....group with people that know their class and do not open a fight with AOE's. Maximize your defensive augments and the Jugg will shine. Yes it is more difficult to tank AOE then the counter parts...but who wants to play easy mode all the time...

Wow made people lazy and not work together. I am glad that threat is not easy mode and requires some dedication and skill to do. But I concur with the above posters in that once you get sweeping strikes and the AE taunt it gets easy.... In a group make sure that the group mates are alpha striking your mob if Strong or higher...below that just let them AE the packs while you take on the strong/elite/champion mob yourself.-

This is not WoW...the days of easy mode and free epics are over...work for your rewards...quit expecting them to be handed to you for logging in...if it is a 4 man Heroic that does mean you, your buddy and 2 companions....it means 4 people.

leap->smash->Sunder->Force Scream->sunder->retaliation->sunder->smash...then I just go through smash, retaliation, sunder, force scream...I only vis. slash when i have excessive rage.