Doesn't the fact that there are bad ones mean that the spec is strong but not ridiculously op? It's not a 2 button spam spec. It's abilities are all highly situational and not very forgiving to error.

I don't think it's just this guy. I don't think the whole community is in agreement that hatred is ridiculously op. Inside the actual game nobody in my guild of 400 plus has a problem with hatred. In solo ques with randoms nobody ever says oh cap when there are multiple hatred sins. The only "oh craps" I see are when there are multiple sorts and pts. I'm not sure if I've lost a match yet against 3 sins and I know for sure the few times it's been 4 sins I have won. This is my experience on pot5

I wish u could reg que just for arena and not be put in warzones.

Again not in the same ballpark as win trading. Win trading =queuing to get matched with someone specific in order to intentional lose for them. Randomly queuing and losing to everyone just to farm comms isn't win trading

Assassinate auto crits once every 60 seconds only after u double strike. After 60 seconds it won't auto crit again until u double strike again. Nice set bonus but not exactly on demand

Idk. If u que up repeatedly on a pve toon and lose to the same ppl over and over you might get a message in your box saying "hey stop that or else ......"

That's not win trading. Stats will show it. There's also a good chance a grp of the opposing faction will que. When u are on and have 3 other players on during off peak hours that's always a good time to que, as u will often get matched against some win traders and rofl stomp them

4v4 duel would be cool but probably not enough resources available to implement it as there are bigger fish to fry atm and u can always go to outlaws den and accomplish the same thing, have 2 4man groups of the same faction fight each other

once the season starts there will probably be less of this.our guild will still Q 2 teams if there's that many people on wanting to play. If we get matched againsted each other we will still play to win. I don't think bioware would say if you have 8 people on who want to play ranked you can only let 4 q

if you are playing to win then by definition it is not wIn trading. I would imagine Bioware can look and tell if everyone played or if they just stood there or /stuck. my guild does this all the time but we never throw it.

the season last a while. You don't have to start plaYing your class on day 1. They can buff your class halfway through the season and start playing with plenty of time to get ranking

Or does ranked season start b4 the Mara buff?

So for ranked it looks like everyone is viable except mercs. Mercs can heal but still probably only in grp que. Still tho there's no balance reason why there shouldn't be a wide variety of classes in ranked

Maras at getting an awesome buff b4 ranked starts. You know everyone who pvps has a Mara or 2 on the shelf so we should be seeing plenty of them soon. Prolly gonna be 2 in every match

When hatred gets nerfed out of viability you will be left with sorc jugg pt and mara. Who gets the next nerf? It want be mara I guess since they just got buffed.

Is your assassin hatred or deception? You may want to try hatred if you haven't yet. It's not bursty like deception but the total dmg output is very high, and all the self healing adds a ton to your survivability. Just make sure you are attacking the same target as your team mates. If you are wanting to try another class I would definitely recommend middle tree jugg over anything Mara right now, however mara is getting a big survivability buff in the next big patch. I have all the classes. Right now veng jugg=hatred assassin=ap pt=any sorc for pvp. Mara is gonna be interesting after the patch as they are now gonna have 2 buttons to force a hard switch and UD is going to be the post powerful defensive cd in the game ahead of barrier. On a side note if your assassin is in dps gear you could try out the tank spec. The dmg is still high but you have a lot more survivability and you can guard people. You may just wanna switch out your focus offhand to a shield generator.

36/36/36? Don't all balance sorcs get dot spread and force storm?

Lol when u vanish how long does it take u to find a place to hide and ooc heal and then get back in range to attack? Probably about long enough for 2 of your team to get killed. Idk about your sorc but on mine I don't lead with my self heal and cc breaker. I use kb and cast heal and bubble plus kite to survive. If it gets bad save the cc break till right before death followed by immunity bubble. Then after bubble my sorc self heals to full kb sprint to max range then kill the enemy team players who aren't dead yet. What level is your sorc? Do u have enduring bastion yet? It helps a lot with that paper armor.

So being ooc for 60 seconds is better than being ooc for 8 seconds and coming back h2f with a super bubble?

So being ooc for 60 seconds is better than being ooc for 8 seconds and coming back h2f with a super bubble?

Balance sorc/sage and sins/shadows are not supposed to mirror each other. Yes shadows got to keep their burst but sages have way way way way way more group pressure. Have you seen how hard storm hits now? If your Melle focuses anybody on the other team the sage can dot spread all of u and throw a force storm on top of his team mate. They also have way more self heals and arguably better defensive cds, since super bubble only takes u out of the fight for 8 seconds while vanish hide and heal takes u out for close to a minute depending on circumstances. Sage burst isn't as good as shadows but shadows aoe pressure is not even in the same ballpark as sage

I recommend saving the schematics. I get 15 to 40k for them quite often. A lot of time there won't be any on the gun because so many people vendor them. 40k is not much. Someone who just got their armortech up will pay it. 40k isn't much but 40kx10 is pretty nice .

I don't know I don't really like cast times. It slows things down and you have to raise the damage of an ability if you change the ability from instant to cast. People would get super pissed if the ranged started getting 20K plus crits. Back on the topic of the thread, I still don't want to see any nerfs. Right now they would either have to nerf 4 classes or buff 4 classes with an oh crap button.I would prefer the buff option. Its getting old right now every rank match is assassin powertech juggernaut soRc or some combination of those four. I would like more variety. I know there is variety in group but I would like to see it in solo as well

If you do all that you have to remove h2f from Guardian jugg as well. Of course once everyone is brought down to merc survivability then mercs themselves will prolly be OP cuz they will out dps everyone.

yeah they could make it so that everyone are automatically retarget them when they come back from VAnish with all their cool downs blown and they're squishier than the squishiest merc