I don't think it's a stretch to say that most players complaining are converts from WoW (I am one as well). I think it just became the norm in that game to complain and with such a HUGE population, an entire culture was formed and as a result, we're seeing some of the same things here. On topic, I pre-ordered late November and I'm not in yet, but I understand why they did it. I really enjoyed beta and I'm excited to try out new stuff once I get in. The positive for me is since I'm not in yet, I won't be nearly as distracted from studying for my last few finals lol. Anyways, I've really enjoyed pretty much every Bioware game, and I expect this to be no different. Hopefully I get in sooner rather than later, but if not, I have other things to pass the time.