Someone cited Counter-strike / Starcraft as examples of competitive PVP and they are 'dead on' with that reference. In competitive PVP -- and professional competitive PVP -- the players have equal items. With an MMO. I do enjoy putting time into crafting to produce a purple schematic once that schematic is learnt anyone can by the products (pending materials). Therefore anyone can more easily access those items from either PVP / PVE. PVP equipment purely for end-game purposes creates a disparity and with SWTOR seriously needing to expand their oPVP even if such gear were only useful against another player it would hinder the oPVP as it would disincline people towards it. Someone who has X Rating (a high rating) in PVP is someone who plays well and should be feared. The rating is a form of prestige and ranking and that does have value which does not need a gear reward.

Ilum is a WZ. It was never oPVP.

Snow and Grass works better. I see people say East and charge to the West... Teaching people Snow or Grass seems to be better than the compass. Sad but true.

Lost me at: I don't player a healer.

Does anyone remember or know what happened to Bea Krull?

A continent is a hard cut piece of land. A border is an imaginary divide. Do you call yourself and identify yourself as Canadian / American / New Yorker? People build a sense of community exactly because of 'splits' -- in real life people can only maintain about 150 friends so even as hard-wiring into our brain from our tribal days we appreciate and respond to recognition of a smaller-set of people. ------------------------------------------------ CSQ. Not looking forward to it -- would be more tolerable if there was solid oPVP on 'PVP Servers'. I pvp a lot in WZs and part of that for me - a big part - is getting to know who is on the server. How well they fight and how they conduct themselves? Do they fight with dignity or do they scream about how losing the battle is everyone else's fault? Seeing an enemy guild in battle and appreciating their skill -- that's also a big part. From Bioware's history and the license. I expected something truly innovative and immersive from this MMORPG. Instead we get WoW in Space with the aDhD fixes for loud-fingered keyboard jockeys. Better oPvP -- please -- so I don't have to contend with CSQ and Rated WZs.

On Jung Ma it's said often we lack healers in WZs and FPs. I've switched my Merc briefly to bodyguard but it didn't really feel like it was designed for healing. How does Operative Healing stack-up against Sorcerer Healing? The real point of my query is if I were to maximise healing which class would best serve for that?

Been thinking about this myself -- will follow this thread.

Best sig ever: Originally Posted by Darth Baras The cake is a lie, there is only pie, through pie I gain calories, through calories I gain fat, through fat my belt is broken, the recliner shal free me...

More Hutball. Best W/Z when you actually play Hutball rather than try to killfest.

Before you call to 'Nerf It'. So as to understand the difference between Teamwork / Good Players / L2P and dear me a word I've never used before: 'Baddies'. I've taken my own medicine and have played 5 classes so far. As an earlier poster said: DPS / CC / interrupts all inhibit healers. Group heals are rubbish. It's MUCH harder than it looks.

Yer know. I kinda like it. A PVP Extreme Server would be interesting: Zero Travel Restrictions Zero Zone Locks (exhaustion pts) -- Just take'em out. See what happens. I'd play on it as I am sure a lot of others would as well.

Me thinks it means Medals + Valor = 40. For winning (and losing) by playing the match to the end you get more Valor. I'm WOAH - I saw a thread without QQ =) These patch notes are very good for 1.1.X

If by gimped you mean in the Pulp Fiction sense. Yes. They are kept in a box and chained up with a leather mask on by their fellow guildies, only to be unleashed in warzones where they are a frightening experience for enemy players and one not easily forgotten.

Yeah. I don't get how this ends oPvP. Was wondering if this was a 'troll thread'? It was rare to begin with and this is the end for Ilum which isn't oPvP it's a WZ Planet. Ilum was full of problems and this is an intermediary patch it's not 1.2. I have oPvP'd a few times on Tatooine while searching out Crons. Got whipped today by a Gunslinger. All good. Actually prompted me to review my tactics. All good.

Server: Jung Ma Level: 30 I found the turret aspect of Merc too static and the dial-up on tracer not worth the lack of mobility. Switched to Pyro and my damage / kills / survivability went up dramatically. Tracer is like 'snipe' without the cover -- it draws so much attention.

+1 10char

"Man or Muppet"

I'm pretty sure I have a blue prototype vibroknife as loot on Mako -- will check. But I've never gotten one from RE. Bugged for crafting them.

Yerp. I get addicted to the drama here and miss the other forums! Seems Jung Ma has a PVP event later today (tomorrow in my part of the world) -- now that is what they say 'I'm talking bout'.

When did this happen? Server Group Forums. Now they just need to break the actual forum into individual boards for each server. But it's a start -- being able to actually co-ordinate with a server community for things like O-PVP.

From what we've seen from 1.2 -- it has more to it than the 2.0 patches I've seen on other MMOs. All MMOs have a long wind-up on their engine. The first 6 months of Launch are always an extension of Beta where all the things Beta Testers said were an issue but weren't taken on-board are reflected again by the Public. And the Public votes with their $. They won't squash all issues in a 1.2 patch but if they deliver what they have said is in there I'm willing to give this game a decent chance... - Fixing end-game crafting in a 1.2 - Remedying a number of PVP issues - Expansion of the Legacy System It's a lot to achieve. If they even deliver on half-of-it I'll stick around from 1.2.1 to 1.3. So early in the game's lifecycle... If they don't deliver on their scope -- that's another matter as 'they' have set the expectations here.

+1 Because it is true. Camping is exactly what the Empire does.

132. I wonder what Mako is doing right now?

78. Classic.