I too, am offended by animated representation of female flesh. Also, blood, gore, religious iconography from any religion except my own, skin that is colored anything except that of my own, science, math, geography, lighthouses, bananas, The Grand Tetons, tadpoles, fluorescent light bulbs, those little things on top of soda cans that go "CAH-chissss", calendars that have a February 29th, cats, driving while intoxicated, driving while on drugs, driving while on a cell phone, driving while female, purple, driving while old, rock gardens, illegal aliens (especially Jawas), replacing the negative power couplings, the shape of a vase, The Bee Gees, and star fruit.

I did a bunch of tests using 1/12/28 and 3/31/7 against both the operations dummy and the regular 50 dummy on the Ziost Shadow. 1/12/28 came out significantly ahead on every test. (I dont have the numbers here at work, but it was more than the 4 or 5% expected. More like 9-15%) My gut tells me this is a combination of the hybrid build being "better" in the sense of a higher max potential, but also because lightning is more difficult to play, in that there are way more cool downs to manage. Now that we dont even have chain lightning to consider, hybrid is a faceroll spec :/ But a very effective one.

I just want to point out that, yes, we get feedback, and yes, it improves our product, but no we do not take the attitude that the customer "owes" us feedback. We take the attitude that any such feedback is something we need to earn. This seems distinctly at odds with this: Or, oh... say... this: Flat out calling the feedback provider a liar. Sound like a company that is interested in the dialogue you describe?

Sure, in an idealized situation, producer and consumer have an excellent dialogue with free flowing ideas in both directions. That situation does not exist here. There is no dialogue between the users and the devs. On the PTS forum there are many thousands of posts that span weeks of time regarding this issue, without a single response from BW. The consumer more than fulfilled his responsibility in this supposed dialogue(which, as was my earlier point, is significantly lower than the producer's.) The producer is not nearly meeting his obligation. So again, I am left flabbergasted that anyone would deride a user for being inarticulate rather than focusing your derision where it belongs: firmly on the producer.

Im so glad you asked. We spend TONS of time and money on gleaning this information from our users. We have multiple departments approaching this topic from different angles (business needs, technical needs, financial needs, etc.) We place the CEOs of our customers (we sell to businesses, not individuals) on our board. We throw them parties. We hire their former workers. We do everything for them. Because they are paying the bills, and at any given moment, they might say, "You suck, see ya." Agreed. Putting up an internet forum and then systematically ignoring it isnt improvement either. Yeah, this we agree on. Those posts are pretty useless. When I moved my auto-re-sub from 3 months to 1, I didnt tell anyone (until now, I guess.) Is this rhetorical? You are asking why people complain? For the same reason water is wet, I suppose. That may be true... I dont know. I do know that so far we've received zero explanation for the DPS changes, and one, IMHO rather sparse, explanation for the healing changes. There is a party in this relationship that is not living up to his end of the so called "communication-deal," but it isnt the consumer. Im not quite sure what you are driving at here. So, you are saying, BW doesnt care about my feedback because Im expendable? Well... I in particular am in a very competitive business. My customers in particular wouldnt even waste their breath on telling me my product sucks. Theyd just go elsewhere. (In fact, our customers sometimes go elsewhere and lie about why. They are REALLY entitled. Heh.) Thus the monumental effort I described above. My industry is an admittedly extreme example, but, BW could take a page from our book, which is what this thread is about. Its asking for SOME communication. I understand. But for every seemingly useless/expensive thing you can do with 15 bucks, you can do something thats a good deal... say... rent something like 20 movies from Netflix. Look, Im not disagreeing with you on this point. MMOs are in general a great deal. But there are other great entertainment deals out there (including other MMOs.) Yeah, Im not advocating for being a vocal dick. But I seriously disagree with you about who shoulders the (most, vast majority of the) responsibility for making a successful product in this relationship. EDIT: BW did throw that guild summit thing, so, kudos there.

Daellia, I get it. Providing articulate feedback could make the product better. It could also be whistling in the wind. Luckily, as the consumer in the relationship, Im free to do either. My original objection was to the post that adamantly blames the lack of quality in the product on the inarticulate consumer, rather than where it belongs: on the producer.

Like I said, after that month, Im free to stop paying. I dont need to articulate why. Because they are trying to part me from my money. I did not. I responded to the idea that I owe BW a well worded expression of my needs. I do not. Like I said, what BW asks for, or needs, is none of my concern. They don't like it? Ill stop paying. Yes, exactly. I know you were being sarcastic, and want this to be some grand familial two way street, but it isnt. As an aside (and this is truly besides the point) perhaps if BW were more willing to communicate with me, I might be more willing to communicate with them in the hopes of a better outcome for all (which I think is what you are driving at.) But they arent. Yes, exactly. I dont want to lift a finger. In fact, I am a software engineer working on enterprise level client server systems whose general architecture is similar to MMOs (its not a game, though.) I make that kind of system function well at work. At play, I dont feel like doing it. At play, I simply want to play. If BW cant provide that, then I cant provide them with any funds. Sure, I could go above and beyond my responsibility and attempt to help make the game better, but I dont want to. My point was that I am not obligated to do so, as was suggested in this thread. Yes, its cheap. No, I dont buy something just because its cheap. Again, I was criticizing the idea that I owe it to BW to concisely and coherently articulate my needs. I dont.

So you advocate to continue to pay for a product that you do not enjoy in the hopes that this time your pleas to make the product enjoyable will be well-worded enough to not fall on deaf ears? A mind-boggling stance.

The sense of entitlement is not in any way ridiculous. I pay and in return am entitled to certain utility (in this case, fun.) If I dont receive said utility, I stop paying. I do not owe Bioware an explanation of why I stopped paying, or a coherent suggestion as to how they might be able to retain me as a customer, or... anything really. I dont owe them anything. They owe me utility for my $15. It is them who must entice me to continue to pay, not I who must entice them to entice me to pay. THAT idea is ridiculous.

Or, instead, I could take my money to a producer who gives me what I want without having to do all of that. What you describe is a seriously suboptimal use of my time and money.

Why? It is not the consumer's job to accurately, legibly, concisely, or even coherently communicate his or her desires. It is the producer's job to fulfill them.

Ouch. And not a single word as to why. What the hell is that guy Reid's job, exactly? To make one intarwebs forum post a day? Must be nice.

Source? I thought the double dip was still in effect on PTS?

You mean 1/12/28, right?

Haha, this! I keep telling myself, "Welllllll, if they do nerf double dip, at least then I can go full lightning and have more fun!"

Is the Inquisitor PvE wearing a green hornet mask?

Thanks much!

That isnt a spec. Its an example of a few lines of healing. Im looking for a comprehensive specification. I suppose it doesnt exist and we're stuck reverse engineering?

Has a spec been posted for the combat log format? Thanks.

Wait, what is this? CD's cooldown has been increased? I didnt notice that in the patch notes.... ?

Well I hope you are wrong about the former and correct about the latter!

Daellia, I have to respectfully disagree with this. Sure, being able to cast it instantly (ie, on the move) is nice and would buff DPS a bit, but, it seems to me that the problem with TB is not the cast time, but the very fact that the ability hangs its hat on the guaranteed crit, which makes all of the gear-points you put into crit wasted (for this ability.) Similar to how alacrity is wasted for affliction, death field, creeping terror, wrathed anything, and lightning stormed-chain lightning. In addition, the nerf to surge made the guarenteed-crit worth even less. To address the actual problem with the ability, Id rather see the guaranteed-crit aspect removed entirely, and the base damage increased significantly. Also, to be honest, I hate the stupid affliction requirement, as, its impossible to tell when my (as opposed to the 4 other sorcs in the raids') affliction has dropped off, forcing me to play a "better safe than sorry" game with affliction reapplication. TD doesnt need to be some fancy schmancy twisty ability. Just make it hit hard. My 2c.

With they be written to a file in real time, or, will we need to specifically request the app to "save" our log? Also, is there any chance we will be getting the ability to save our chat logs? This would be useful in many ways (eg, for an app to auto track who in the guild got what loot and when.) Thanks!

Hmn, well, alright then. Well, theyve said theyre going back to the drawing board and looking for suggestions, so here's their chance. Mythic people, we liked Darkness Falls and Land of the Dead! Give us the SWTOR equivalent, and we'll send cash!

Shadowbane had something like this. I wasnt faction based, but guild based. It worked pretty well, actually, barring a few technical problems.