Somebody posted in a thread that you can gain the 5k healing medal with an item called the arctic healing water or something similar? I cant find the thread anymore and i was wondering what the exact name is and where this item is found at. Thanks.

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@ Vimm lol I love how you just rip on anybody that says snipers are poor in pvp. I hate to inform you....but we are. Get over yourself. People have provided a boatload of concrete data . Here is one for you. I have 536 expertise now I ambushed a sorc...for 2800. He turns around and instants me for 3k. How is that even ballanced. A 9 seccond CD that requires a 2.5 channel does less damage than an instant. Snipers damage is so sub par against targets that have expertise its pathetic. When all the mitigation is applied to our damage and then you calculate the expertise reduction on top of it..your looking at piss poor damage. Yesterday I played a game against a premade of fresh 50s, sure i was hitting for 3-5k but they had absolutely no gear. The next game was against a repub premade, the best on our server in fact. I was hititng their sorc who isnt a BM for 1200 snipes. Btw it can take almost an ambush a snipe and a followthrough to pop a bub sometimes. My buddies tracer missile was landing for 1800, he has 440ish expertise. SO less expertise more damage, same cast time. But hes not bound to be in cover to use that ability, has more hps, and heavy armor. Also his defensive ability is superior. Oh and he can heal. And his knockback doesnt have a requirement. Snipers need either a survivability buff or a damage buff. And most likely we need both since we have no heal abilities or 9 second paladin bubble and vanish like marauders.

Ambush is Tracer missile...but double the casting time. Equal damage for 1/2 the casting time is ballanced. Oh btw its tech damage too!

Lethality would be great except for 2 things, your 3 moves nescesarry to do any damage are on large CDs these are weakenign shot which is 15 seconds, Cull 9 secconds and Corrosive greande 12 secs. After you do that you have to go back to fillers like SoS and ambush. If you dont do the set up of Dart, Grenade, Weakening Blast, Cull. Your ST damage is poop. Also...energy is a huge issue with this build. Also it takes 3 secs to drop OB because it isnt talented anymore. I rarely use it now. So my 2 piece set bonus is useless. Hoooooray! The mobility is nice, my numbers in a BG are high, but I contribute less because im dotting others for 2000 in 18 secconds. Thats 1 heal. So in essence im contributing alot of meaningless damage that inflates my numbers where as with MM I might score a little lower but I was killing chumps. Ive gone games where i scored 410k with Lethality but only had 6 killing blows. Hope this helps.

So im pvp 55 now and another sniper on the server hit battlemaster today and got the rifle in his first bag. I was so stoked to see what he said about it. Low and behold hes reporting about 150 more damage on abilities. PAYOUT *****ES IT WAS WORTH IT! /wrist

Please if your not 50 shut your mouth. You dont know a damn thing. Your skewing the representation of the class. As I said before the class is amazing sub 30 after that our scaling drops like a rock. SO YEAH **** I ROXORED A DUDE MY LEVEL AND IM 27! I CANT WAIT TO GET ALL THE NEW ABILITIES AND GEAR AT 50 AND HIT FOR OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!one11!!1!!1eleventyone! Well guess what bucko, it doesnt get better, it fact it gets worse, your hitting just as hard as you do at 50 in bgs because of bolster. I have 39% crit and 82% surge and 456 expertise. I crit a sage with ambush for 3kish. He channels rocks in my face for 1k a tick non crit. And his bub comes back every 20 secconds. Ive bene hit by scoundrels for 9.7k in period of a GCD. 1.5 secconds 2 abilites for 9.7k. And his gear isnt anywhere near mine. right now im pvp rank 53. Im still slugging it out hoping things will change because to be honest i really dont want to reroll and go throught he ******** again. I score consistantly top 4 in any bg and im usually 1 or 2 for damage. But lets put some caveats on that before we go on. I target noobs. Because they go down quickly and any reduction in CC or DPS to my team by me removing sub 50s is helping the team in most cases. I hoard the red buff, this artificially inflates my numbers because of the 15% expertise buff. I have a pocket healer. This allows me to do stupid **** like run into a pack of 4 idiots pop my defensive and OB myself. They usually die trying to kill me because of this. I couldn't do this without a healer being 100% aware of the stupidity that I am about to do. I am fairly ahead in gear above most players on my server. When I run into equally geared players my hits are atrocious for the amount of cast time required. Awesome i just caster for 3 secconds and my ambush hit a trooper for 1400. Fantastic. Now before you cry about why am i targeting a trooper, sometimes ...you are alone at a point defending it and its you vs the trooper. So rather than let him take it without any contest I shoot him, crazy I know. So he gravs round me for 1800 non crit, sometimes 3300 crit. depends on the trooper and the gear....this is a 1.5 seccond cast time. If my ambush crits on a well geared trooper ..who has been shatter shot it may land for 2400. Meanwhile the guy is sporting heavy armor, has more mobility, far superior defensive abilities and a pinch heal that lands for 2k.

Ive posted this some where before but Ill give you a quick break down. Im 456 expertise or near that atm. I have near full pvp gear. Im pvp rank 51. 1. Snipers do no more damage than any other dps class that has some other advantage over us, ie heals, mobility, better armor, escapes. In fact as other classes gear up with superior set bonuses and damage types ,ie energy and internal, they do more damage then us. 2. All of our damage except for explosive probe and dart are kinetic. Most of our damage is mitigated by armor. Other classes dont have this problem, sorcs, troopers/bh. Hell even the marauder has other damage types and a dot as well. 3. Mobility is terrible, coupled with the delay, and dubious cover system sometimes its frustrating hitting snipe and nothing happening for a second. This isnt game breaking balance issues, its a buggy mechanic which I'm sure will be adressed. However, the lack of escapes and general mobility makes you less of a contributor in hutball than any other class. Some one tosses you the ball, you want to increase your survivability? You, have to root yourself in place making you useless for ball movement. 4. Far less survivablye than say a trooper who pops his shield or a sorc with a rediculous 3500 point absorb on a 20 seccond cd, 17 secs with set bonus or jugg/marauder popping saberward. 5. Our damage can be passively blocked by any ligh saber wielder. Sure would be nice to resist some of those ungodly pebble spams. But no this is not to be. Instead i sit there for 2.5 secconds channeling ambush only to have it blocked by a sorc running away from me...why? because he has a 10% inherant chance to block blaster attacks. Just like my 10% chance to resist force attacks...oh wait. 6.Our damage scales for crap. Im doing double the damage i was at level 20 in greens and blues and I'm not 50 in full epics with the champion rifle. The weapon coefficient needs to be examined. I feel like they couldnt decide if we are a wizard who relies on base spell damage or if we are melee with a weapon coefficient. Unsure of what to do they picked neither leaving us in a puddle of mediocrity. 7. Entrench is amazing. If you arent you nee to be entrenching when ever things look like they are getting close to you or your gona get CCed. 20 secconds of happyland ftw. 8. I have been interupted so many times while in cover now I want to puke. We arent supposeed to be, so make it that way. The buff doesnt allways apply. Ive watched it pop up after being in cover 10 secconds. Sometimes never. Fix it. 9. The ease of breaking LOS coupled with other classes getting a heal means you will be frustrated alot as they duck behind cover just before we kill them because takedown didnt crit. Voila few secconds later after pinch heals from themselves and back in action. Meanwhile any dots that have been cranking on us have done permanant damage. 10. I have to be in cover to knockback, I cant tell you how many times i have actually blown a person into our end zone because of the delay between getting into cover and then using cover pulse. No other class has a prerequisite to use their KB. Its so damn frustrating. 11. Being rooted prevents me from dropping into cover, denying me acces to those skills and the cover bonus for survivability. I can understand being stunned and not being able to drop into cover. But if im rooted to teh spot....like i am in cover...why can i not just...crouch down and deploy my shield. I can list more things but this should suffice to say that snipers arent great at pvp. I wold place them in the mediocre category. Yes Im usually top 3 or 4 in damage, but you have to realize im drilling 20s in the face for 5k with no expertise. When I pop a sage in full expertise its 3k crit...maybe. Young snipers your damage is amazing pre 30. After that the scaling stops and by 50 you will start saying *** where did it go. Lets put it this way a trooper who has more hps more ac and a shield that is amazing can grav round...for as much damage as ambush lands for. 3 seccond ambush...3k...grav round 1.5 seccond cast ....3k. And again i have almost full champion gear with a few pieces of centurion mixxed in. Its not like my gear is atrocious.

How do you spam an ability that has a 2 minute CD?

Thats because you arent 50 yet. At low levels are damage is great, the higher you get, the less it scales. By 50 your damage is no better than anybody elses. BTW every jedi has a way of closing with you. Shadows cant stealth, Marauders can stealth for the time it takes to close to you, jugs can charge, and sorcs dont need to close. All these people posting about how awesome snipers damage is are sub 50 I garuntee. Every sniper on my server that is 50 is underwhelmed with the class to some extent. Dont get me wrong its not like the class doesnt work. Its just, everything is an uphill battle for the exact same things that other classes can do.

Here is what I can tell you about the sniper at 50 in the current game after playing on a pvp server and hitting rank 36 and have 5 epics. 1. Your damage is virtually the same as every other DPS class. Ive seen BH hit 400, Jugs hit 380, and the best geared sniper on our server has hit 418 in a match a few times. This was due to people standing in his orbital bombardment trying to defuse bombs. Smugs/IA make our dps a joke in pvp. I was hit earlier today by a smug for 4800 then 4400 in the duration of a GCD. So 9200 in 1.5 secconds..ish. Good luck doing that with a sniper. 2. Your lack of mobility is a major problem in PVP. Having to set up shop to get access to our main abilites is a neat idea but in practice its a big pile of poop. All someobdy has to do thats ranged is....poke you, then pass beyond the 35 meter point, heal up and go poke you some more. Since we have absolulely no way of healing its rather easy to do. If you want to chase them you have to run after them then drop you cover again, wait for the GCD to go off and hope they are in range. Also since you basically have to permanatly root yourself its extremely easy to LOS us at the end of our casts. Go out of LOS pop heals and voila back in action. I cant tell you how easy this is to do in hutball. 3.Our damage is almost entirely physical. Except for explosive probe and the dot, MM sniper does pure physical damage. Sooooooo, everybody mitigates almost all our damage to some degree, this does not take into account the passive saber block on all glow stickers and bubs on sorc/sage before you can evne start to do damage to them. Let me tell you how awesome it is to warm up a 2.5 seccond channel only to have him passively block it while hes running away from me. 4. OUR Knockback requires you to enter cover to use. On maps like hutball this is a massive detriment. I cant just run up to someobdy and knockthem off ramps, I have to enter cover first giving them time to move and readjust. I cant tell you how many times this has screwed me. I even blew somebody into the endzone causing the enemy team to score because of the set up time on cover to KB 5. Atm I feel we are an extremely mediocre class endgame compared to everything out there. I have been Gravshot by troopers for 3400 Ive had pebbles channeled in my grill for 1200 a tick , shadows have backstabbed me for 3300 and my highest ambush ive had so far in pvp was for 3700. All these numbers are extremely similar to mine except they have a much reduced cast time compared to ambush and the characters are a million time s more mobile. 6. Our 5 meter range bonus doesnt feel like much of a bonus to be honest. Im sure that if it was increased it could potentially cause ballance issues, but atm 5 meters isnt much by the time you drop into cover and entrench they have close the 5 meters. If you havent gotten entrench off they have charged you and you havent gotten a shot off. Again like I said this is a personal bias thing the range thing isnt really an issue, more a thing I would like to see but not nescesarrily a needed thing in pvp because again I can see this being a balance issue. 7.IF you do get your entrench off in time you can put out as much damage as everybody else does thats a dps class, but your imune to CC so the sniper does have that going for it. Its nice to not have to worry about CC for 20 secconds. Bare in mind this response was written purely from the perspective of a MM sniper. I cant comment on Engi or Lethality at all, I have yet to try them out. Please forgive my spelling and grammatical errors its 7am new years day and i havent gone to bed yet.

I couldnt disagree more. The class is truly mediocre dps compared to other dps classes, and the mechanics are terrible and buggy at the very least. If you want a class that has no functionality other than DPS and is mediocre dps at best...this is the class for you.