Well I have a friend who is a BM Merc, I play sniper. I have fought a lot of Commandos. Even if you haven't had a lot of encounters, at least compare their abilities and talent sheets vs ours. For one, Why does Tracer Missile/Grav round do more damage EACH tick, as in even the initial tick and each one following it, do more damage than one of our Ambush/Snipes. It is also consistently doing more not just here and there. That is a serious problem, especially considering they have many abilities, that ignore defense and we do not. Sure you could argue that ours cannot be interrupted because they require cover, but cover is actually really more of a disadvantage in PVP, ranging from easy LOS breaks, sitting duck, to minuscule defensive benefits. It would be different if cover gave some crazy health regen or something, but it doesn't. I shouldn't even need to mention how much more survivability Merc/Commando has. Anyone else see the issue here?

They are melee, it is more like 3 shots. They can kill any class in full pvp gear in about 3-4 seconds. MAYBE 5 seconds. They will try and defend themselves saying it is all "Biochem", but let them beat that dead horse, as it has already been proven that was only a straw in the haystack. My guess is your thinking of rolling one and hopping on the bandwagon, I say go ahead, more power to ya. The more and more this happens, the sooner they will get the diserved nerf.

Nothing? You are the joke here. I am a Battlemaster sin, and was before the patch. I have opened tons and tons of bags and have been shortchanged A LOT. Getting to 61 is NOT easy mode, Especially with a full time job, kiddo. The problem me, and anyone else who actually "worked hard" for their ranks have is that these people were exploiting (AKA abusing) something they knew was wrong, and we got a scripted response as if they are going to do something about it. If they were going to do something about it they would have by now, and a roll back is still needed. You can't ban all the players that participated in the exploit. The number of those who participated is much greater than those who unsubbed, if they banned them, forget the prediction of 2 months and this game is free to play, knock it down to 2 weeks. That is why a roll back of valor only is the only logical solution. The patch SHOULDN'T even have been on the drawing board until all the below were fully implemented : A. Pop imbalance was fixed B. Class imbalance was fixed (dont troll with the biochem excuse) C. Bugs/Graphical/Connection/Que issues fixed

Clearly not, kiddo. Clearly not. Tons of THREADS with many, many posts in them asking for the roll back is thousands, and only a few here and there aagainst the rollback, so why don't you trollback to the hole you came out of. Lots have already quit waiting for a rollback to decide if they resub or not, and I am talking from a personal experience being a admin at a gaming community that came here from EVE. Not to mention others that have quit over it. P.S.: They can roll back the valor gains without touching anything PVE related. Derp. (Clearly an imp that falls into the category if abusing 1.1 ilum)

Seriously.

one of 10? More like your 1 of 10 who cannot count. More like 10^100

Congratulations, you are one of maybe 50 vs thousands that want the rollback. The rollback is completely needed and they should just give a free sub day added along with it since some people actually legitimately played yesterday. Lets look at the best case scenario outcomes here: No rollback= people will keep unsubbing the more the aftermath becomes apparent. People that have already unsubbed with not re-sub. Game will become free to play in a couple months with micro transactions Rollback = sure a few will unsub, doesn't mean they will not come back. Sure there will be only a FEW rage posts complaining from someone stating they were "playing legit" yesterday. But you will get a lot of your income back from people re-subbing. HINT: if you do NOT know how to rollback (to Bioware) then you shouldn't be running an MMO in the first place.

This is coming from a Battlemaster imp, I was BM before the patch. This has to be the worst patch in history of MMO gaming, and than you just tripled how bad it was by not shutting down the servers soon after people were reporting in mass all of the issues. You clearly show your design and management incompetence when: A. Rollback has yet to happen or be announced. (-20 MMO points) B. Showing a clear favoritism to empire not only in design, animations, armor textures, and damage delays. Now it looks like the ones who abused it (empire) in 1.1, will not be getting their rollback. Clear Favoritism. Making a patch to force fighting but not fixing imbalance issues. Clear Favoritism. (-50 MMO points) C. Making a world pvp map with large scale battles in mind on an engine that doesn't support over 15-20 vs 15-20. (-10 MMO points) D. RNG bags and bugged RNG. People with 40+ bags and 2 pieces only of duplicate gear? E. Most imbalance classes seen in an mmo at launch TO DATE. A 500 expertise tank getting killed in 3-4 seconds by a 45 operative? Shouldn't matter if it was a tank or any class for that matter, I have never played any mmo that failed that much. Everybody knows people like to see BIG numbers when it comes to a damage hit or healing hit, and people like fights that last a good amount of time. NO IT IS NOT JUST BIOCHEM. (-20 MMO Points) F. Still no rollback? Ive been writing this thread for over a couple hours, one tid-bit at a time. /fail. G. Screwing up the que times just to satisfy the altaholics, and the slow levelers. Im not getting reports that the que times are not only 5x longer since the patch but reversed. As in republic are now waiting in que MUCH longer than imps... this could obviously be that most of the repubs were getting farmed on illum.. but still. (-10 MMO points) E. Not listening to the community that relayed 80% of the present issues to you in BETA!. (-20 MMO points) Unfortunately, you can't get any positive points since everything that is good about this game was taken from other games.

needed /signed I am an empire battlemaster and was before the patch.

World pvp worked in Shadowbane, the bugs did not

^ Someone who gained major valor ranks today /translate complete

you have to hit an enemy to get valor.... derp

Not really killing players. What they are doing is: A. Exploiting unintended bugs B. Killing below lvl 50 republic alts C. camping a spawn 50:1 and repub players cant even load from respawning before dead, much less leave the planet to actually play the game. Side note: My main is imperial

Your from the "Exploit to win, I'm young and don't care" camp, aren't you? call it obvious.

game will be free to play and prob with micro transactions soon just to pay for server upkeep.