I prefer getting nothing after buying RotC some months ago that a stupid title. I feel they are laughing at me acting that. And much more when is rainning under wet ground.

Yep, i found the answers very well explained and and i think they are right. Most of the whinning is due L2P. And even if i knew im not a skilled player, i should know that classes like Sages, for example, and by design, are harder to master than a Gunslinger. Or in PvP, Sawbones are easier than Seers but in PvE, Seer shines. People should realize than some classes are easier to play than others. And f you wanna play a Sage DPS, for example, in PvP and you are not good, the problem is not the class itself but you.

No, absolutely NO. Earn your Legacy and earn the new companion. If not, you already got 7. More than enough when you can only summon one at once. I just hope that BW keeps the new companion like the PTS.

Trion did much faster and by far with better customer service than BW. EA would have charged for the service like is doing now cos they just care the money, not the customer. And when server transfers came in Rift, here in Europe, my server Blightweald was running very well and even, and due the free transfers, some servers like Whitefall (PvP) got insane queues cos it. And we are talking about a 100% suscription based MMO. I agree that transfers came cos some servers got light but they managed very different and taking care of the customer. The opposite we are suffering here in SwTor. And Trion didnt screw up the release like BW did. The difference about the service between both companies is so huge that any discussion about it, is pointless. I´ve played a lot of MMORPGS and this game got one of the worst customer service i ever saw. And is cos EA sucks.

Wow has absolutely nothing to do here. Both are MMORPGs, yes, but nothing more. Wow was a successful since the beginning with millions of players and is still 100% suscription based. SwTor, Bioware and EA, screwed up the release and even was called Tortanic for a long time. Another Wow-killer defeated. SwTor has been the opposite and the Cataclysm didnt come as an expantion pack but a million of bad decisions losing 75% of customers in a few months. IF Wow charges 20€ or 200€ or for free pero character transfer doesnt matter here. We are talikng about different things. Different ways to handle a business.

Then you should know that server transfers came with 1.3, early summer, just a few months after the release. And if you played that game, you should know that when the free transfers came, the game was running quite well with good population. F2P came 2 years after that. And iirc, any customer was able to transfer for free once a week. For me, was a terrible idea but the free transfers were there available for everyone. And even, you got the option to tranfer with your guild if they decided to move. So, pls, is ok you wanna defend BW at all cost but tell the truth first.

The amount of fanboys in this thread is awesome. But actually, they are afraid about a mass exodus from their servers and wont stop defending this crap BW made. Where the loyal customer gets punished and the one with one or two toons, not. This is i call a outstanding customer service. Hurra!!!! Bioware did this mess. If they dont wanna make a Legacy Transfer or something like that, money is money, they should have rewarded the old accounts with some kind of free transfers for the people who got stuck in servers cos THEY DID a HORRIBLE WORK releasing this game. And instead of fixing this mess, they charge for it and the fanboys defend it. Incredible.

I was thinking about 6 (or even 7 counting the imperial one) but will be zero. Is all or none and will be none cos the high price if you wanna transfer several toon getting 0 discounts. Another fail by EAware who only cares the money, not the customer.

Seriously, do you think this deserves to be a 2.X patch?. There was a time when something called patch 2.2 or 1.7 or 3.1 etc and not 2.2.3.4, in a MMORPG, came with some interesting content. And a recycled OP is something like a joke i must say. But, oh wait, we got a new cartel pack. Thanks. I cant count how many have been released since F2P. I guess the new FPs will be Colicoid and Red Reaper. And the new OP will be Eternity Vault at 55 and harder than the current ones.

First, this is NOT Wow. Wow HAS NOT class stories, Legacy and DOESNT ENCOURAGES the leveling with different toons. Swtor does. So pls, we dont care how much Blizard charges for the transfers. Is a different game,a different company. There are also MMOS that offer transfer for free and noone here is asking a Legacy for free. So, pls stop that stupid argument. If you DONT understand this, you must work for Bioware.

We are not talking about free here but i will give you a name: Rift.

There are people who dont care rateds or nightmare modes etc but they like the game as well. In my case and following your suggestion, 6x3 =18 months. Awesome thanks!! you made my day. I like to swap between my toons playing different classes, different roles, different stories etc and i also work on crafting skills (got all) so i´m self-sufficient and is the stuff i ilke to do in the game. Sorry if you disagree. So, or i transfer everyone or i dont move. I dont wanna leave a toon behind starting a mirror in the other server. And i dont get why a game that encourages the storyline, the legacy, leveling alts etc, is so greedy to charge a hell of money to the customers who like that "playing style" while a "Wow mode" guy playing one or two toons only, will get much easier to transfer. If this forum was about Wow or another game, this thread would be useless cos 1800 per char would be quite fair i must say. But its not, is about SwTor: and a Legacy transfer should be available and BW knows it. It´s just that EA is too greedy and wanna milk us again.

If you dont care, why are you posting here? are you working for Bioware?. It seems that with every post where the OP doesnt hail Bioware, some people come to extinguish the fire and, or they are Bioware employees with no yellow tag or i simply dont undestand why they come to throw stones to the OP. If due to this feedback by the community, BW also releases a Legacy transfer cheaper than: "1800 CC x number of toons of the server" (which i think they should) as customers all we will get the benefit, ALL, no matter if you care or not now. Who knows if in the future you will be using that service. I dont get why you are against....sorry, i find it quite retard being a customer. Anyway, i will answer you. I want to tranfer cos i wanna go a PvE server. After half and a year i think is time to move. But due the EA policy i will need to pay an amount of money which i wont, of course. With this policy, the loyal customer is getting stuck in the starting server or is getting milked again if wanna move.

Exactly.

You forgot the Legacy and the class story thing. Tell me ONLY one MMORPG but SwTor where you see those features. If Wow or who knows what game charges the double per character it doesnt matter here cos is a different thing. Customers are not saying that 1800 cc per character is expensive, they (we) are asking why not a Legacy transfer is avalable as well. That´s all. And we deserve an answer.

I started here in the headstart, bought the CE. I came to a PvP server with friends even when i dont like PvP servers ( in other MMOs i always play PvE/RP server) but they decided to join a PvP one and i accepted cos i wanted to play with them. My server was a destiny when free transfer came so no able to move after a half and a year and my friends have gone. During this time and due the Lecagy, i got 6 toons right now. Bioware now offers paid transfers with 0 discounts, just an option: 1800 CC per character. The guy/s behind this idea, deserve a medal. Greedy as hell. I just hope they think about this. Same about EU <-->US if is technically possible.

Eric, pls tell the guys who has decided this crap: THANKS!!!! Thanks for nothing. Thanks for no rewarding the loyal customers who have been playing this game many months leveling many characters cos THIS GAME ENCOURAGES THE LEGACY and it means several toons for many players. I got 6 toons as you can easily check and,or i transfer all of them or nothing. 1800*6= 10800 Cartel Coins. Are you crazy? this is your way to reward your customers? no legacy transfer or even a discount depending on the toons to transfer? NOTHING??. Is this your way to handle the game?. Pls, this is my feedback. 1800 to transfer a toon is ok but pls, give a discount depending on the number of toons or better, a legacy transfer. It is pure common sense. Again, thanks for nothing.

Heroic? if was heroic then they are a very small team. We had to wait tons of months for a class balance and what we got? just minor tweaks and ONE NEW skill for each class being an expansion pack. Sorry but was very disappointing if you ask me. And about PvP, a Bolster which even being a good idea, was totally broken. Agamantelo told us about reworking Ilum when was closed a year ago and what we got after many months? a crappy recurrent event released last Feb. Sorry but your customers are starting to need proofs, not just emplty words. And the time is running fast im afraid. Like i said, is raining over wet ground.

You got big point. EAWare released SwTor using a suscription model which was obsolete and just came late to the party and failed. And now they are coming late again using an obsolete hybrid F2P/Subs model and the "Coming Soon" or the 6-8 weeks "stale" patches wont be enough against other online games if they continue with this policy about selling "smoke". Cos EA is selling "smoke" now and customers, but fanboys, are starting to get bored. And i will say again, fanboys CANT hold a proyect like this.

Do you want to see your server FULL or empty?. Thats the thing you should care as customer: good service and many players playing. End. This game is UNPLAYABLE without a sub. Would you play as Preferred buying crappy Weekly passes, ressing kilometers away, no free respeccs etc?. I dont think so. That is what happens when someone unsubs, one less in the server.

Just ask if a subscriber would play this game as Preferred. I will tell you the answer: NO. Thats the big point here and where EA will lose the war against smartest companies.

IF is unfair or not, doesnt matter. The thing that surprises most here is reading customers acting like they were EA. You, as customer, should not care if EA earns money or not, you should care if EA spends money and if they care the custome....SO YOU: F2P, Preferred and/or Subscriber. Everyone is a customer if have installed the client and got an account. The problem about F2P in Swtor is that F2P is unplayable. It means that a suscriber that unsubs, if someone that stops playing and is -1 for the server, the guild, and you as well cos is a guy that wont join warzones, FPs etc and is 0 income for EA too. The problem here comes when other companies start doing something different like Tera o Rift: And both are excelent games even if you dont like it. SwTor has caught an old F2P. And while a guy who uninstalls SwTor cos unsubs (for whatever reasons) due to stop/unstall is the best option if you dont want to play a sub here.....if would be a F2P like Tera/Rift, and likes the game, wont do cos he will BE ABLE TO PLAY the game even not being a subscriber. Here CANTcos is AWFUL. Maybe he will play less but he will play (is not -1 ) and while EA is losing a customer, with a friendly F2P would be oposite. And imo, thats is a big difference. Is a bit the same formula than ArenaNet and GW2. And imo, thats the future of F2P and not the crap we see with SwTor where they charge you for everything cosEA just care your money, nothing else.

You should care. You know why?. A better F2P model would bring more people and would keep more people. And even more, people would play more often. That´s the thing EA doesnt understand. Tera got more servers in Europe than SwTor, for example. And is a Korean game. Something is wrong here with Swtor and is EA and the F2P model. This game is living ok for the moment cos is Star Wars, nothing more. And in a few weeks, we will see how Rift grows cos chose the right F2P model. With a F2P model like SwTor, would be the tomb for the game. Subscribers. The more Cartel Markey grows, the less the suscriptions worths. You get less with 15€ per month now than on last February, for example. Answer is simple: EA or not EA. EA always moves behind and this time copied the Turbine F2P model but much worse and much more simple. When Lotro, for example, got a handicap cos many of fanbase were already VIP cos the lifetime. Rift or Tera model is much better and if SwTor and this thread and you should care if you like this game cos there is still time for EA to change this.

I´d like to know what means NEW to BW. If NEW is Colicoid or Red Reaper or Black Hole tuned at 55 or NEW is NEW and is content they never released.

It´s no new content. You will be doing the same content but harder. No more.