Rail shot hits the target furthest away from the droid adds (or it may be the target closer to the walker, we're not quite sure - but its essentially the same thing.) By positioning your tank furthest away, s/he will soak the rail shots, ensuring that folks aren't one-shot by it. Good luck - once you get that phase down, you'll be close to entering the actual Kephess phase of the fight which, in our opinion, was the much harder phase.

Condemned has a full video of the hardmode kill of Kephess 16man available on their website. http://areyoucondemned.com

I'd be more than happy to assist you with some of the basics and more advanced techniques of Gunslingers in PVP. Feel free to log onto Port Nowhere (US-EST) and send Falkenburg a whisper.

Congratulations on your kill. That said, there have been plenty of games without in-game achievements (including That Other Big MMO for vanilla and its first expansion) where the community created ranked progression lists. Its the responsibility of guild leaders to take screenshots or videos of their kills and post or announce them to be included in a system like this - we recommend using Twitter, since that will automatically time-stamp the kill. Arguments from those who didn't take the necessary steps to ensure that the community was aware of their kills simply don't hold water - the only thing that the current lack of an achievement system indicates is that the onus of responsibility is on the community, rather than the game engine. Frankly, any guild that is serious about obtaining world rank for progression operations content, is going to be taking these steps.

Good luck with your operations. That said, <Condemned> is recognized by the community as currently having the top world rank in terms of PVE progression for the 1.0 and 1.1 content. Details can be seen here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=252999&highlight=garbuk Or here: http://www.askajedi.com/2012/01/19/world-first-by-condemned-all-16-man-nightmare-mode-operations-cleared/ Or here: http://torwars.com/2012/01/20/condemned-guild-clears-all-10-boss-encounters-in-nightmare-mode/

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=252999 http://www.askajedi.com/2012/01/19/world-first-by-condemned-all-16-man-nightmare-mode-operations-cleared/ http://torwars.com/2012/01/20/condemned-guild-clears-all-10-boss-encounters-in-nightmare-mode/

Hey folks, If you're interested in watching some 16 man Nightmare operations, feel free to tune into our livestream at the following link: http://condemnedguild.enjin.com/livestreams Multiple guild members will be receiving - Trae will be the main and healer perspective. We're starting in about 10 minutes.

Garbuk, Do you plan on maintaining this thread over the long-term? If so, we should get this stickied. Glad someone is doing this!

Guild: <Condemned> Server: Port Nowhere - (US PVP-EST) Faction: Republic Website: http://areyoucondemned.com Schedule: 9:00-12:00 EST Sunday-Thursday, regularly. Extensions for progression. Content Completed: World Rank #1 - 10/10 Nightmare 16 man. Contact: Louden, Trae, Falkenburg Focus: Hardcore PVP and progression raiding. Interested applicants should be exceptionally skilled and have a desire to play in both PVP and PVE content.

Keep in mind that the bosses added in 1.1 are of the same 'tier' as those in Eternity Vault - meaning that their health and damage output is similar to the bosses we've already seen. My guess is it would have been a greater challenge due to gear disparity if this were tier 2 content, rather than tier 1B. As it stands, we were already fairly well geared from EV clears in the weeks prior to 1.1.

You can do all difficulty levels as either an 8 man or 16 man raid. That said, as a guild that's done both 8 and 16, 16 man Nightmare content is the most challenging in the game.

Thanks very much!

So you're 3/5 hard, and 0/5 Nightmare for Karagga's Palace? Got it. We'll be more than happy to engage in a productive discussion with you regarding the challenge level of 16 man, Nightmare operations - including the vast difficulty nerf of Soa from 1.1 to 1.0 - once you and your guild have experienced and cleared it. Good luck next Tuesday!

Paradox? <Condemned> put in 100+ attempts on Soa Hard Mode before we finally got it, which was before the 1.1 nerf/re-tuning. Irregardless, there are two guilds that have cleared 10/10 Nightmare bosses: <Condemned> and <Millenium>. Unless you're a member of either of those guilds, it doesn't seem to be a worthy argument to be calling the content easy.

Milennium are good people. Grats on their kill!

Grats Milennium - welcome to the 10/10 Nightmare club. Population: 32.

Correct. http://xtremedfw.com/xdfwpics/albums/userpics/10003/SoaNM16~0.jpg

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but you won't need to - we've got FRAPS'd footage of all our nightmare fights. We're simply holding them back for now until other guilds have cleared the content and we've gone through another operation reset window. That's the only way to be fair to the other guilds who are currently problem solving and attempting to progress.

For some reason, when the bosses turn into corpses their HP drops - kind of a weird bug.

How's your own 16 man nightmare progression going?

There's a couple of European guilds - namely Milennium - that give us a good run for our money.

For what its worth, we only had 1 GS in raid as well. I'm sure you guys will get it soon - all about the execution!

We cleared Karagga already (Condemned, that is - we're 10/10 Nightmare for EV and KP. Milenium I believe is still working on it.) As far as 16 man goes, what's the health of your DPS/healers? After we were aware of the mechanic, we didn't really have a major issue with it.

Hey Ginzu: We have a policy of not revealing strategies until the reset following a clear, in order to allow other guilds to puzzle solve on their own. That said, I think we can let you know that we simply powered through this mechanic, rather than 'worked around' it.

The worst by far is when the final boss bugs, forcing you to redo the trash between boss 4 and boss 5. Happened to us about 2 attempts before we downed him after a 8% wipe, and I honestly thought a few of our members were going to jump out their respective windows.