Kanharn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 SWG had different times for EU and US. Stop embarrassing yourself. Wrong, They had the same downtime because they had to implement the same fixes at the same time, they also had TCG to do during this time. You clearly never played SWG or you would not be so incorrect, go on the site and look at the old downtime scheduled and stop yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raigirin Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Just because you can list a few game company's proves nothing. Please link there game downtime's. Can you please link to games and companies with the same policy as Bioware/swtor then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlakrar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 SWG has had the same downtime's, I played the game for 7 years. Wrong, they had different downtimes....I played on both US and EU servers at the time WoW used to do the same as Bioware is doing, this only changed in the last few years. Wrong, WoW launched in the EU 4-5 months after the US and straight awya had different down times LOTR I never played. Is true, also LOTRO EvE has one downtime, STO has one downtime, DC has one downtime. What a shocker the SINGLE SERVER games, go down at the same time Really, more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erelenko Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Wrong, They had the same downtime because they had to implement the same fixes at the same time, they also had TCG to do during this time. You clearly never played SWG or you would not be so incorrect, go on the site and look at the old downtime scheduled and stop yourself. omg this is crazy Is true all people is wrong, you are right 1 cookie for you you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prmsntrcrps Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I haven't even logged in today - assuming that people are addicted to the game and have no life and using that as a defense for bad service is just dumb. All I ask for is that BW treats us europeans with the same respect that the US players get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanharn Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Can you please link to games and companies with the same policy as Bioware/swtor then? Use Google and do a little research yourself, you should not believe anyone on a forum until. At the end of the day this is not going to change. Its sad people have to base there life on a game and its very funny people are unsubbing over this. At least in the next few days most of these people will be gone and will make room for people who understand how a company / MMO works. Its that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erelenko Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Use Google and do a little research yourself, you should not believe anyone on a forum until. At the end of the day this is not going to change. Its sad people have to base there life on a game and its very funny people are unsubbing over this. At least in the next few days most of these people will be gone and will make room for people who understand how a company / MMO works. Its that simple. So simple all mayor AA companies out there doing the downtimes with separate windows, even the biggest one i will not say its name here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipreth Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 please change the maintenance time bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artthen Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Hello everyone! Several posts have been removed from this thread for straying off-topic. As you continue to participate in this thread, please remember to heed the Rules of Conduct. As a general reminder:Insults - Please do not resort to or use them in any way in your posts. Posts should be productive, not destructive.Trolling - Please do not post messages that are purposefully designed to provoke, antagonize, or otherwise elicit a negative emotional response.Agree to Disagree - Be respectful of others' viewpoints even if they are opposite of your own. Discuss disagreements constructively.Flag, Don't Fight - Utilize the Flag Post feature to report possible rules violations, rather than responding to or fighting them.Thanks for your cooperation! Edited January 16, 2012 by Artthen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlakrar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 please change the maintenance time bioware Short, simple, correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninoss Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It's cool when mods are abusing rule of conduct to threaten or silence people who are criticizng their employer. It's no longer a downfall, it's cascade failure already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlakrar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Hello everyone! *snip* At least we know some are looking at this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninoss Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Oh, ofcourse they are. They know, they just ignore us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlakrar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Oh, ofcourse they are. They know, they just ignore us. Sadly, this feel's more true everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerda Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm pleased to see this thread is still going strong. Equality for the EU!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlakrar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 After reading half your comments are you surprised people ignore you lol And mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaarina Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 No need to argue with others, they can research it and find the times, We are posting asking BW to listen. Time is about up and most mmo players know other MMO (some bigger some smaller named) can do 2 separate times and we know BW can as well since the servers are already in EU. At this time they are choosing to not posting to acknowledge us nor considering a change in down times. I have posted the Email I received when I asked if they were going to be changing or consider changing the down time for EU players. Answer is No they are not even looking into it. And as an American I know Americans would not lay down and roll over if they were to miss 8 hours (more if need be) of play time a week. We are not asking for any changes to the NA Side So please do not get upset and hate on us for wanting to be able to have our down times more in line with the NA one. I know tomorrow servers will be down for most my time again and then sadly my time will be up (1 month) so I guess all those who are serious about wanting a change will be watching and hoping at some point BW listens and changes the EU time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlakrar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 No need to argue with others, they can research it and find the times, We are posting asking BW to listen. Time is about up and most mmo players know other MMO (some bigger some smaller named) can do 2 separate times and we know BW can as well since the servers are already in EU. At this time they are choosing to not posting to acknowledge us nor considering a change in down times. I have posted the Email I received when I asked if they were going to be changing or consider changing the down time for EU players. Answer is No they are not even looking into it. And as an American I know Americans would not lay down and roll over if they were to miss 8 hours (more if need be) of play time a week. We are not asking for any changes to the NA Side So please do not get upset and hate on us for wanting to be able to have our down times more in line with the NA one. I know tomorrow servers will be down for most my time again and then sadly my time will be up (1 month) so I guess all those who are serious about wanting a change will be watching and hoping at some point BW listens and changes the EU time. Much more eloquently written, than anything I could have come up....+1 to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Im sorry, but this seems really strange to me... In the thread made yesterday http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=691258#edit691258 bioware announced the weekly maintenance and that they would try their best to keep these weekly maintenance's on off peak-hours. And that seems correct in the US, but in europe the time is 10AM to 4PM.... How is that in anyway during off peak-hours. Its in the middle off the day. They even have physical servers in europe so why cant we have maintenance on those servers when its the best time for us and not when its the best time for the US? I really dont understand their reasoning for this and its rather annoying knowing that the servers will be unavailable every tuesday afternoon. Hopefully we can get some clarification on this or maybe its just me overreacting? The bottom line is that 8am-4pm IS off-peak for us in the EU and that's the end of that. There maybe a minority that are impacted. Edited January 16, 2012 by Zoggel Trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaarina Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Sorry Catch 22 not sure where you live but we are not all living in the same place. EU is HUGE just so you know According to the Server list when I get up at 4 am, the servers are very low populated but by noon my time (gmt +2) you start seeing a fast rise in loads. Children here get out of school at noon, we do not have the same school hours as USA: It is called respect and I hope you can respect that our wanting a separate time does not affect you or your Na time, Please understand we will not take milk and cookies from anyone , we just would like our own. thank you Remember everyone, all have opinions but the best ones are informed, logical, and polite Edited January 16, 2012 by Kaarina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninoss Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 2am - 10 am is way more off peak, if u can't understand that then I'd recommend going back to elementary school. Telling ppl to get a life/job/etc is just trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlakrar Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) The bottom line is that 8am-4pm IS off-peak for us in the EU and that's the end of that. There maybe a minority that are impacted. As said previously....the 8am - 4pm is ONLY for the UK + Ireland. Many parts of Europe fall into GMT+2 or more and that means its cutting into 6-8pm That is NOT during school/work hours and is NOT off-peak! Edited January 16, 2012 by Zoggel Troll quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) As said previously....the 8am - 4pm is ONLY for the UK + Ireland. Many parts of Europe fall into GMT+2 or more and that means its cutting into 6-8pm That is NOT during school/work hours and is NOT off-peak! Since when does 4pm +2 equal 8pm...? You surely realize not all EU lives where you live? for me it is 10 am to 6pm and that is not low time. 1 am gmt or even 2 am gmt is much lower play time according to server loads Yes, but even in Eastern Europe that still only means 2 hours of the maintenance overlaps into the post school/work, assuming we call 4pm a cut off. So, when you consider that maintenance periods so far have gotten no where near the 8 hours max, usually completing within about 4 hours, it is still well within off-peak times. As to you final point; the game requires unified patching across all servers, world wide, so having split schedules is not an option and is unlikely to ever be. Edited January 16, 2012 by Catch_TwentyTwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaarina Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Since when does 4pm +2 equal 8pm...? Yes, but even in Eastern Europe that still only means 2 hours of the maintenance overlaps into the post school/work, assuming we call 4pm a cut off. So, when you consider that maintenance periods so far have gotten no where near the 8 hours max, usually completing within about 4 hours, it is still well within off-peak times. As to you final point; the game requires unified patching across all servers, world wide, so having split schedules is not an option and is unlikely to ever be. Other games have split patching and it is not that big of a problem since the servers are already located in EU And patch times have been over 8 hours, first one I believe it was, was 10 hours and tomorrows is 8 hours BTW Where do you live? which EU country Edited January 16, 2012 by Kaarina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch_TwentyTwo Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 2am - 10 am is way more off peak, if u can't understand that then I'd recommend going back to elementary school. Telling ppl to get a life/job/etc is just trolling. Clearly you should take the third option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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