Nfinite Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 To start, if you are a diehard WoW hater, or a diehard swtor fanboi then this post isnt for you, as logical reasoning cant sway you. This is on objective review based on someone who actually will consider a valid point, not someone who responds to a reasonable statement with "then don't play the game" or something, because "don't play the game" isnt really an option in biowares mind, they want a winner, they don't want to scrape by, and believe me I would love to see that winner as well. Also im holding SWTOR to a 2012 standard, not a 2004 standard so dont bother saying "well this game didnt have this at release" in 2012 we expect certain features. So here we go... SWTORS quest experience is amazing, that much is undisputed, its engaging in a way that you won't see from any other MMO, and that factor will help them greatly in keeping those many many players who just "try" the game. Its a huge innovation in the MMO genre and i commend them for it. End game is currently medicore, yes all the bits and pieces are there, you have your raids you have your pvp, you have end game gear, but it isnt as streamlined as one would expect. PVP is a basic grind one would expect from a 2006 title, no competitive system, no rated warzones ect, i heard somewhere they are on the way but still a little dissapointing it wasnt at launch. But if they are on the way, good enough, as long as BW doesnt take too long with it. Raiding is lackluster, i mean its just basic raiding, its not groundbreaking or even cutting edge, its just basic raiding, not taking away points for it but not giving them any either. Do not come back and say well this game is about lvling alts, im sorry this is an MMO, a world where MOST people create a character and want that character to progress they don't want to restart every couple months, im sorry thats just not realisitc, end game defines the logevity of an MMO. Features... This is perhaps the biggest and most unforseen miss i would have expected going into this. I just kinda thought in the back of my mind that a 2012 MMO (esp a AAA one) comes with all the bells and whistles. Things like Addon support, and LFD system, server forums, to name a few. Things like this should be in any MMO today especially a AAA one. Addon support is nothing new to the genre, theres a reason its in every MMO worth a damn, because its free innovation in your games UI and the community decides whats NEEDED and what isnt. The LFD system, though a more recent innovation in the genre, is still a staple in a 2012 MMO, im sorry i dont care how your gonna spin it, sitting on the fleet spamming for a group doesnt build community, it deters you from even wanted to experience a flashpoint because you have to waste an hour just to get started. no Server forums? are you kidding me? some of the best server rivalries has emerged from discussion on server forums, not to mention how the hell are guilds supposed to recruit? you want everyone just spamming chat? is every BW decision designed to get more and more chat spam? are we doing a chat stress test here? ***? Theres prob some more stuff to list im missing, but these are the glarring points, Long story short, the game is another MMO, it has innovation in it, but ultimately comes across half done. I have a hard time justifying subbing to a game like this, i mean you play SWTOR and you think of all these things it SHOULD have but doesnt, i played wow for a long time and got sick of it eventually so i quit, but never once did i say god i wish WoW had this feature, because WoW created the features people wanted, and if someone innovated they copied it into the game within months and you had it there and usually it was improved upon. I fear that SWTORs questing innovation will just be another "feature" that blizzard can just take and implement into thier game (titan? or whatever). At the end of the game, i respect bioware for trying to be a little differnt, but lets stop being delusional, the class skills are basically copies of WoW skills with diff names so stop pretending like your not WoW, you are WoW, in scifi, with less features. Get the game to a 2012 standard please, I want it to be great, i really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymaeria Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 I agree with this entire post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biaNok Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 NO seeing as how i cant even log on to play the game and their tech support is pretty crap. Just spent 60 bucks digital DL and game launcher is already throwing out errors. Having to re-download the game is crap, thank god for 50mbps connections. Seriously im starting to doubt the competence of any Big game company other then blizzard. This is why people moved to consoles, so much crap you have to deal with trying to PC game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizzik Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 No game ever lives up to they hype. *cough*Spore*cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadysketchy Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 No, SWTOR did not live up to the hype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisftw Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 read the last two sentences you posted just to confirm that you indeed hate TOR. WOW the game you talked so much about and you also through their new project Titan in there. which you know nothing about.. IS ALL <-------------------- That way. enjoy the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrode Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Not exactly, but it is pretty awesome I must say. I can't really say for sure until months after the game as launched, and I think most would agree with that. But yeah, I agree with you a lot. There are missing features that should of been in the game. I think a better game design would of been to take all the great things in WoW, out with the bad or unecessary features, and improve on what's there. Instead we have some great features we see in WoW, some amazing ones left out, and some bad ones in. I think BioWare has learned a lot already though. I would be extremely surprised if they didn't realize their mistakes as of now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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