Paulsutherland Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 The place you call home! Theron and perhaps Lana are only trying their best to protect you from harm by going behind your back to trace this super weapon and destroy it. That way what's dead can stay dead! If they don't have a reason for not telling us what their plans are / were ... then there will be no regret, no hesitation, no mercy ... they're dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Awww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Awww I want off the Theron and Lana show ... even if their reasons are valid, I'm going to prioritize getting away from those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenderTwo Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I want off the Theron and Lana show ... even if their reasons are valid, I'm going to prioritize getting away from those two. What if they found Vaylin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iheaca Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Theron and Lana being both in it is plausible but I cannot say I like it. Theron alone, fine. I could still understand that (but not forgive). He tends to think sometimes that he only can save the world. Poor boy, so much on his shoulders. But Theron and Lana? Thinking that they can both fake treason but I couldn't? Come on, that is a trust issue on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 What if they found Vaylin? Yeah Paul, what if they did?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yeah Paul, what if they did?? Then the decision between letting them live and getting Vaylin or killing them and not getting Vaylin will feel like the decision between the Geth and Quarians from Mass Effect 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJunay Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 The place you call home! Theron and perhaps Lana are only trying their best to protect you from harm by going behind your back to trace this super weapon and destroy it. That way what's dead can stay dead! In other words, Theron and Lana consider my PC a weakling and a pathetic which needs to be protected and defended? I can not even imagine if there could be a worse insult for my PC! I want off the Theron and Lana show ... even if their reasons are valid, I'm going to prioritize getting away from those two. I, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenderTwo Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 In other words, Theron and Lana consider my PC a weakling and a pathetic which needs to be protected and defended? I can not even imagine if there could be a worse insult for my PC! If the player character under the influence of someone else I may be able to buy it, but if we are there's been no signs of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 In other words, Theron and Lana consider my PC a weakling and a pathetic which needs to be protected and defended? I can not even imagine if there could be a worse insult for my PC! I, too. Hmmm, not necessarily, they might just want to be utmost useful to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iheaca Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Hmmm, not necessarily, they might just want to be utmost useful to you? So they would be doing this behind our back so that we do not have to bother about their investigation? I'd say target missed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I, too. These two have been intolerable from the start. We've been stuck with them since the flashpoints before 'Shadow of Revan' ... It's time for them to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Hmmm, maybe it's just a situation of the less people know about it the better. I guess it is kind of weird as you're the commander, but as there are quite a few people "you" the commander trusts, word might travel faster and potential plans could be revealed to the wrong eyes? It's not that weird imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iheaca Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Hmmm, maybe it's just a situation of the less people know about it the better. I guess it is kind of weird as you're the commander, but as there are quite a few people "you" the commander trusts, word might travel faster and potential plans could be revealed to the wrong eyes? It's not that weird imo. This still means that they do not trust us in being capable of playing the game with them, and/or do not trust that we can keep a secret... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJunay Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Hmmm, not necessarily, they might just want to be utmost useful to you? If they do not consider it necessary to tell the PC about their plans, and consider him a helpless child - they do not belong in my team. My PCs do not need to their protection. As in the games behind him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Even if filling you in on their plan would have been more beneficial to you and everyone else at a later time? I mean, they don't have to think you're helpless, I doubt they do, but there are more people in the alliance apart from you and not all of them are fighters. Sometimes the less people know the better and considering they are second in command (more or less) They should have quite some freedom right? I placed a bounty on Theron's head however, but I'm trying to see it from another side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeSioux Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 In my head my Warrior is so done. She is going to tell them to stuff the Alliance and the Republic and the Empire (so done with betrayals and secrets) She has already cleared out Rakata prime so that is where she is heading with Arcann and whoever from her original team that wants to Join to start development of their Beach bungalows and timeshare apartments business sod everyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomName_Ru Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) I did try to think why PC is kept in the dark by Theron (and Lana if she is on it)... And the only valid reason is if PC somehow endanger the plan to infiltrate the Order and lure out the traitor. Now for why the PC can be the weak link – I am at the loss. It's not like they are stupid enough to broadcast a “THERON IS A DOUBLE AGENT” across the Galaxy or spill the beens in the cantina to the first random stranger. Are they? So... It have to be a brilliant reason! Or a flashback to the PC, Theron and Lana coming up with the plan, discussing pros and cons and all agreeing to go for it. P.S. Maybe Theron suspects Lana? She obviously is not the traitor (duh ), but he could suspect her. IDK... Edited April 23, 2018 by RandomName_Ru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshaga Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Well, from the Annihilation novel, we know that Theron is capable of doing pretty stupid things to protect someone he cares about, he caused quite a big mess on Nar Shaddaa to help his Twi'lek friend he considers like a sister and he did it behind her back too. So considering he's supposed to be at least very good friend with our PC (and even more so if he's in a romantic relashionship), it's no surprise he could do even more stupid things. Lana already have a history of doing things behind the back of her allies if she thinks it's the better way to achieve something, so her being in it too, would not surprise me that much. And maybe, just maybe, they don't consider our PC as a weakling, but after everything s/he went through they just don't want to burden their Commander (well, that didn't work out very well it seems), but they tried And, this is one of my friends' theory here, what if our PC is in it too, but we player don't know anything of it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJunay Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) Even if filling you in on their plan would have been more beneficial to you and everyone else at a later time? I mean, they don't have to think you're helpless, I doubt they do, but there are more people in the alliance apart from you and not all of them are fighters. Sometimes the less people know the better and considering they are second in command (more or less) They should have quite some freedom right? I placed a bounty on Theron's head however, but I'm trying to see it from another side. These two pawns have no right to do anything, without the permission of the Alliance Commander. If they do not consider it necessary to obey their Commander, let them get away from the team. I do not care what goals they pursued, playing their spy games. They undermined trust, showed the PC an idiot and a weakling. This is not forgiven. Edited April 23, 2018 by MrJunay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshvara Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Well, from the Annihilation novel, we know that Theron is capable of doing pretty stupid things to protect someone he cares about, he caused quite a big mess on Nar Shaddaa to help his Twi'lek friend he considers like a sister and he did it behind her back too. So considering he's supposed to be at least very good friend with our PC (and even more so if he's in a romantic relashionship), it's no surprise he could do even more stupid things. Lana already have a history of doing things behind the back of her allies if she thinks it's the better way to achieve something, so her being in it too, would not surprise me that much. And maybe, just maybe, they don't consider our PC as a weakling, but after everything s/he went through they just don't want to burden their Commander (well, that didn't work out very well it seems), but they tried And, this is one of my friends' theory here, what if our PC is in it too, but we player don't know anything of it ? I guess that's true. Theron must care about the PC a great deal, even if it's platonic! I do understand people not wanting to put up with it however. It's not like I'm Theron's or Lana's biggest fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goreshaga Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I guess that's true. Theron must care about the PC a great deal, even if it's platonic! I do understand people not wanting to put up with it however. It's not like I'm Theron's or Lana's biggest fan! I can understand that too, I'm just sad, that I'll probably loose him because other people want him dead and we all know what happens to companions that can be killed... And I can't even kill the companion I despise the most and that I would not even take in my SI's crew if i had a choice to begin with... And that is not even usefull or relevant to the plot so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iheaca Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 And... Chapter 4 for lunchbreak. It is quite short but I had to find a way to explain the wording of Arcann first letter after Vaylin's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 And, this is one of my friends' theory here, what if our PC is in it too, but we player don't know anything of it ? That would be a weak way to end this ... not sure either would have agreed to being murdered by the PC, but those mind tricks can truly do wonderful things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomName_Ru Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) Well, from the Annihilation novel, we know that Theron is capable of doing pretty stupid things to protect someone he cares about, he caused quite a big mess on Nar Shaddaa to help his Twi'lek friend he considers like a sister and he did it behind her back too. So considering he's supposed to be at least very good friend with our PC (and even more so if he's in a romantic relashionship), it's no surprise he could do even more stupid things. Lana already have a history of doing things behind the back of her allies if she thinks it's the better way to achieve something, so her being in it too, would not surprise me that much. While this is true, it have been at the start of the SoR. Lots of time have passed. Now in game they are set up as Fire Forged Friends who relay on each other. So... Working alone and trust issues should be dealt with, no? And maybe, just maybe, they don't consider our PC as a weakling, but after everything s/he went through they just don't want to burden their Commander (well, that didn't work out very well it seems), but they tried I was thinking about that too... But it shows such a lack of understanding how One-Man/Woman Army may react if their ally/friend/lover betrayed them, that it is beyond stupid. And not taking in consideration that PC may have some loyal followers who may have an issue with this betrayal and politely ask in a lovely letter if PC would like Therons head... Well, I can see Theron doing it (he is more of a tactician), but Lana (who is a strategist) being on it? Is she not the “wise” and "pragmatic"?! Edited April 23, 2018 by RandomName_Ru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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