Jaspin Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Hi, this might be one of my last posts as I have just canceled my subscription out of anger and frustration. in late October I have fallen in the trap of buying armors and head gear from the vendors in the fleet bazar. Naive as I am I thought - the armor is shown in collections... the only legal way to acquire it is via fleet bazar... so there might be a chance it will unlock in collections. Bought them... equipped them... made an astonished face... of the 15 acquired sets / head gears: 2 unlocked at once; 1 unlocked after two days; 12 not at all... which I found somewhat unfavorable. I knew from the past that the unlocks might be buggy, "Marka Ragnos" / "Series-505" were unlocked some months ago after a ticket to CS. So I thought - O.K. another ticket and all will be well - but no CS actually answered me "That armors bought from the fleet bazar had NEVER unlocked in collections". An answer I knew was false for two reasons: I had unlocks in the past and a minority had just unlocked a few days ago (just for fun facts: my brother bought other armors at the same time - which unlocked). I asked: why show these armors in collections if the only legal way to acquire them is the fleet bazar - if they do not unlock. Now I received the answer that the fleet unlock had stopped, when the armors became part of the armor packs of the cartel market - meaning via 4.0 patch. I have to admit I have not found the information in the patch notes nor in the explanations of the cartel market changes - but I am not a native speaker, so I might have missed a point. So I sit here with dozens of armors bound to the wrong character, with (almost) no collection unlocks and having spent almost all of my remaining cartel certificates...Just to be lied to by the CS with the following change from lie to "oh we just changed the rules - tough luck - now you can gamble for the armors you just bought". To summarize my plea (for those playing after me): Get your programming straight! Treat all armors equal: All unlock or none unlock (Knowing Bioware Austin it will be "none"). Sorry for rambling... F. Mumm Edited November 11, 2015 by Jaspin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daewan Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 What armors are you unable to unlock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspin Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) I was unable to unlock: Volatile Shock Trooper Hazardous Physician Opulent Triumvirate Series 79 Aureate Ubrikkian Industries Rectified Brawler Amended Mystic Voss Dignitary Glorious Charnel Mask Trophy Hunter's Mask Stylish Defender Enforcer's Eyeguard "old" unlocks pre 4.0: Corellian Councillor Series 505 (after ticket) Mira Thana Vesh Marka Ragnos (after ticket) Dramatic Extrovert Battleworn Triumvirate "new" unlocks after 4.0: Elite Regulator (which lead to my shopping spree) BK-0 Combustion male / female Underwear Edited November 12, 2015 by Jaspin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I had unlocked one set as not only was it posted by players that they unlocked, but a dev confirmed they did in a post. Sadly, found out that was not true. Luckily I was able to get my certificate's refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspin Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 The loss of certificates is one aspect. I find it rather disturbing, that an option to buy armors directly (for unlocks - one can still buy them for "fun") was removed and replaced by an cartel market "gamble version". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daewan Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 That has to be a bug. They are all listed as unlockable in the Collections interface, and some of them were not unlockable before. If the interface is wrong, then you should get a refund of your cartel coins and certificates. Whoever told it was changed because they were added to the Cartel Market boxes is completely wrong, as that would mean they are still unlockable. If you can put in another ticket, you could try asking for a rep who is familiar with account unlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damask_Rose Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I had a ticket submitted for the Hazardous Physician's set and was told that the cartel rep. version won't unlock, but the new cartel pack version will. Yet I've had other cartel rep. items unlock, and I have a women's underwear set from a cartel pack that won't. Very inconsistent or buggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordoKhan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 This is a bug from what I have found in past posts. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=841153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordoKhan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 and here is the thread that dealt with it and Tait's post http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=734593&highlight=collections&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daewan Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 and here is the thread that dealt with it and Tait's post http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=734593&highlight=collections&page=2 Yes, this is definitely not working correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logod Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 It's not a bug or inconsistent. The armors availible from previous packs gained from the rep DO unlock, wait for the timer to expire then equip them. Keep in mind you do still need the entire set for the unlock to register. The reputation armors exclusively from the reputation vendors DO NOT unlock, if you want more you need the cm certs and credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspin Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) It's not a bug or inconsistent. The armors availible from previous packs gained from the rep DO unlock, wait for the timer to expire then equip them. Keep in mind you do still need the entire set for the unlock to register. The reputation armors exclusively from the reputation vendors DO NOT unlock, if you want more you need the cm certs and credits. Were exactly is the difference between "Voss Dignitary" (collection does not recognize that I bought the set) and "BK-0 Combustion" (which unlocked)? The German collection text even (still) states that the "Voss Dignitary" armor (and some others...) is exclusively obtainable via reputation vendors... (and in the past the armors where highlighted as "collected"... now nothing) ... and I checked of course if I had bought the entire sets... Edited November 15, 2015 by Jaspin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logod Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Were exactly is the difference between "Voss Dignitary" (collection does not recognize that I bought the set) and "BK-0 Combustion" (which unlocked)? The German collection text even (still) states that the "Voss Dignitary" armor (and some others...) is exclusively obtainable via reputation vendors... (and in the past the armors where highlighted as "collected"... now nothing) ... and I checked of course if I had bought the entire sets... They highlight as unlocked because you have "unlocked" them but when you click them it says to obtain more copies visit that rep vendor. My eyepatch and sunglasses still appears that way since the day I bought them and their timer expired. If there is/was a reclaim option for any of those sets/pieces that is the bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspin Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 They highlight as unlocked because you have "unlocked" them but when you click them it says to obtain more copies visit that rep vendor. My eyepatch and sunglasses still appears that way since the day I bought them and their timer expired. If there is/was a reclaim option for any of those sets/pieces that is the bug. ... but that is the "problem" most of them do not highlight... it remains as if I never bought them. If I can get more copies of the armor (on character / on legacy) afterwards is a whole different problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logod Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 ... but that is the "problem" most of them do not highlight... it remains as if I never bought them. If I can get more copies of the armor (on character / on legacy) afterwards is a whole different problem.... Does it really matter if they highlight or not? They may highlight but the only way to get another copy is to go buy it from the vendor anyway. Really they should never highlight because they don't unlock, but again it doesn't really matter if they are or are not highlighted, there is no difference since you can't reclaim them one way or the other. If you were confused about what truly unlocks, i explained what does and doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspin Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 I have to disagree. As I pointed out some reputation armors highlight (or unlock or are registered as collected or what ever) some don't... "Dignitary" and "BK-O" are both reputation armors but reacted differently (- I don't even like some of the armors - but I am one of "these collectors"... I want the collection complete). I can even compare within my family: my brother bought the "Councilor" which is unlocked for me but did not for him. "Marka Ragnos" (not a "pure" reputation armor I know) was unlocked by CS for me... it unlocked by itself for my brother. Perhaps this is less a suggestion thread but more a bug report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordoKhan Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I have had bot h trainer statues unlock (acquired with certs from fleet vendor), several mounts, and the enforcers' eyeguard show up as avaiable to unlock. I have unlocked the statues but can also unlock the other items if I want.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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